6.5 vs 6.1
 

I dont get it. from my experience with different types of roms, the ones that are 6.5 are slllooowwwer than 6.1.

question is, how do you guys deal with the lag of 6.5 compared to a rom running 6.1?

this thread is not meant to target anyone or pick fights.

i just want to know the 6.5 users' opinions on what they like about 6.5.:scratch:

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

Wrong section.....please read.....
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=65921

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

i find that the 6.5 roms are running pretty smooth now, the earlier roms ( when 6.5 first came out) were sluggish, but with some great chefs they have made 6.5 run pretty darn good overall.

I dont see myself going back to 6.1 anymore

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

agreed.. Can't imagine myself using 6.1 again.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

My experience with 6.5 is that the current stuff is quicker than 6.1, simpler, more finger friendly, stable ... I'll never go back.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

... to each his own

I've tried the juice; left me thirsty.
Mighty ? Not so much.
Mystery, why folks using 6.5?

Seriously, all of the folks working their way through the 6.5 releases get my appreciation, but frankly - 6.5 is a disaster. It is less usable to a stylus driven person and not finger friendly enough to get you to iPhone usability.

I have my same WM 6.1 rom (51052.1.6) and about once a week, I make the rounds through the lastest 6.5 offerings and they are certainly getting better, but the chef's, as talented and resourceful as they are, can't make up for the dog that Microsoft is pushing in 6.5.

:)

:D

Best regards,
-Boggsie

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

I really like WM6.5. Especially if I dont use TF3D it runs much faster and smoother than ever before. Plus scrolling pages with your finger instead of having to using the slide bar on the side is much easier and more natural. I personally like the WM6.5 home page alot it fits my needs as a user.


:headbang:

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

Haven't tried 6.5 and frankly don't want to. Content with my 6.1 ROM cooked with calkulin's kitchen.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

I tried them all 6.1 with touchflo, 6.5 with touchflo,
6.1 without, and 6.5 without. 6.5 is so much slower then 6.1.
I really dont' understand y ppl likes 6.5
But the bottle neck for 6.1 is the touchflo.

I been using grooveRom 3.9 without touchflo for the longest time now.
I just replace the touchflo with the new spb mobile shell 3.0 (its an awsome software)

It also seem like every month i would just flash new roms just to see wat out there.
But i always end up goin back to grooveRom 3.9
To me that the fastest and smoothest rom so far.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

Agreed, it's still buggy but I just like the interface that much better.

6.5 is really simplified, you have your home page and your apps.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

Moved to the general Diamond Forum.

late,
Coz

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

6.5 > 6.1

I ain't ever goin' back!

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

I find that 6.1 with SPB Mobile Shell 3 is far superior to 6.5.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

I run Calc's 6.5 rom with SPB Mobile Shell 3. I really like the finger friendly scrolling menus in 6.5. I haven't noticed a difference in speed, but I know it is a little less stable because it has crashed a few times, but it's pretty rare. BTW SPB Mobile Shell is friggin awesome. Better than TF3D.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

I think the thing that seals it for me is the finger scrolling. I'm running Mighty5 Beta and it's fairly stable.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

You may find it funny to note that as one of the first chefs to regularly push through 6.5 builds (from the first available sys), I too was very reluctant to embrace 6.5. I think I even made a few public statements about how much it sucked, and was a waste of time, blah blah blah...

It is true that it takes adjustment, but after adjusting, I would never go back to 6.1, unless I had some app that was totally vital and only worked on 6.1.

Sorry to say but 6.5 IS: better, stronger, faster. We've come a long way baby.

Not perfect, but better. Once OEM's start getting up to specs with 6.5, it will be even better. I just want a real 6.5 dialer -- WTF MS?

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

I am not groovin' on 6.5 !! :mrgreen:

What specifically are the percieved advantages?

I, frankly, figure I come off as a jerk, but I feel like I'm missing out on something and I can't figure out what it is!

Every day another new-fangled 6.5 roms come out with an updated SYS/XIP and I try it/them, get disgusted and re-flash my 6.1 21051 rom.

Best regards,
-boggsie

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

I just think it is the fingre scrolling mainly. I'm not a huge fan of the improved Start Menu but it works.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

after touring several 6.5 ROMs, I found nothing of great interest except maybe the better PIE/IE... going back to 6.1 now... (I detest the 6.5 Start menu and don't really like the new big menus either).

rather than bigger menus, I think I would prefer a bigger screen (ala Touch HD or even just a TD2... Sprint?)

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

the start menu on the 6.5 is one of the things i don't like.
i like it on the 6.1 where we can get our fave apps immediately.

But the main thing is speed.
6.5 has gotten better - i agree, but it is still not as fast compared to a good configured 6.1 rom.

perhaps 6.5 will never be great in a diamond due to hardware limitations?

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

I think that it is important to qualify how you are performing that "measure". What items are important to you and withing that category, what counts for good, better and best.

Start Menu: 6.5 = worse
I agree with you, the start menu is much, much different than what my usage patterns expect. Even where I have stuck with a 6.5 ROM for a period of time, the transition was too difficult for me ... it had a negative impact on my ability to use my device.

Speed and Responsiveness: 6.5 = worse
In every case, every task that I tried to complete with a 6.5 ROM seemed to be slower than completing that same task with my 6.1 ROM.

Battery Life: 6.5 = worse
This really surprised me, because the general concensus that I read seemed to indicate that I should expect much better battery life in 6.5 and I did not experience increased battery life.

Usability: 6.5 = worse
Admittedly, I am a 80% stylus user ... the new finger scrolling features in 6.5 actually have a negative impact on my ability to use a stylus in the way that I have in the past.

Fit and Finish: 6.5 = worse
More than any other area this is probably incredibly subjective ... but I find the user interface elements; the rounded edges, the today screen, to be a work in progress, less professional (if you will). The crispness is gone. Like going from XP with themes turned off, to Vista on first boot.

6.5 was also not as stable for me.

Best regards,
-boggsie

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

i have been on 6.5 since 21159 and love it

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

I use TF3D...

So visually OS wise.... all I really see is the Startmenu.... and I HATE the wm6.5 HEX thing...

TF3D runs WAY smoother on 6.1

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

the best thing about 6.5 is amazingly responsive finger flicking on all menus. That alone is why i love it. I can flick through file explorer, text messages, emails etc with amazing speed. Plus it seems to me battery life is improved. and I love the built in slide to unlock that I ditched s2u2.

Here is a video I madeof my touch pro 2 running 6.5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ack9KVaj9h8

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

Try the new 23001 build:

battery life is longer for me than on 6.1

there are so many themes that look so amazing. on TF3D you are so limited to just channing BGs and buttom icons, etc. But with Bliss, Wm7, Canalog clock...

If you know how to customize it, it can be much more user friendly, much more finger friendly (i know you use stylus but i never do), and everything runs really fast. Rhodium also runs very fast so if you want to switch to manilla its basically like having 6.1

The builds are getting better and better. 23001 is pretty awesome. In a couple of weeks 6.5 is going to be even more stable, and I am getting better and better batter life with every build.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

I am downloading da_reeseboy's 23001 rom now and in the process, noticed a pretty severe bug in my 21051 ROM. While downloading, the battery does not charge ... not even when connected straight to charger via AC adapter.

:(

Best regards,
-boggsie

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

in no rom either 6.1 or 6.5 have I ever gotten a data connection while on activesync, however it should be charging if you have it connected to an AV charger. I have had no such problems with DaReeseBoys 23001 rom, its the most stable 6.5 rom ive ever used.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

I'm running 6.5 on an Apache and not going back to 6.1. Yes, it runs on an Apache..........LOL. I should be getting a Diamond tonite so I'll be running 6.5 on that too.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

yall keep talking about different builds, regardless of the builds cheffs still have to make em.... Maybe the real problem is the way their made. Their could be the same build in 2 different roms but 1 is gonna run better than the other because 1 cheff is better....

IMO 6.5 has a small advantage over 6.1, so id take a 6.5 custom over 6.1, but lets face it, their is no custom rom out now that needs no tweaking or hotfixs etc. I know i am sick of thinkinng my custom rom is good, then all the sudden i find another flaw that erks me off... I am on the stock 1.03 version and its rocking just fine, all my programs work perfectly and no wierd shnit is happening.... the notifications open up like they should and woth battery tweaks its lasting a while.... 6.5 battery wasnt horrible but stock just wins imo.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

flash DaReeseBoy's 23001 and then see what you think. Different chef's are "better" for different people. If you want rhodium then use someone who incorporates it into the rom. But try the 23001 and then see what you think, its pretty smooth, i get better battery life than stock sprint 6.1, and I can still install manilla if I want to.


edit: try reese's rom on your wifes phone :S

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

Ok. Im going to try DaReeseBoys' 6.5 ROM....

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

you wont be disappointed, ive tried other roms and this is the fastest, most stable rom I've used yet.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

i like 6.5 being able to scrool in the window itself, but wish the system folder was more like 6.1 and how orginized it was so sexy.....

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

its the same thing with bigger icons, you can still move shortcuts and organize it how you want, or maybe I dont know what you mean by "system folder"

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

Ok... so after using MR4 final... I was convinced it was the greatest ROM ever... So after reading this thread and people saying how great the latest juicy 8 was... I was thinking about trying it out... I was a bit reluctant because of bad experiences with MR5 and earlier versions of Juicys Rom and other 6.5 ROMs.

Well Last weekend I decided to try it... People who say Juicy8 with wm6.5 is faster than wm6.1 are on crack. Its not even close...

That being said... theres nothing wrong wiht Juicy8, infact I think im going to leave it and try it for a bit longer...

So IMHO when it comes to TF3D,... 6.1 > 6.5

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

maybe they were running a really really slow 6.1 rom. but yea, no 6.5 that i have tried run faster than a decent 6.1 cooked rom.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

Agreed. No 6.5 rom I've tried has been as stable as the good 6.1 roms either.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

???? I dont get ppl who say that 6.5 is better.....maybe stock 6.5 v stock 6.1

but touchflo (especially rhodium tflo) is THE PERFECT solution

you have txt, email, weather, favorite ppl, stocks, favorite programs, calendar, music and camera/album right there on the same screen.....

Plus when you hit start you get your 5 last opened programs....something that is so handy but you dont realize it until it goes missing...like in 6.5

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

6.5 is better in many ways. 6.1 is better for noobs. TF3D sucks donkey balls.

Re: 6.5 vs 6.1
 

Agreed, why anyone still uses TF3d is beyond me