Wifi Drivers
 

Hey,

Just wondering if anyone out there has seen at any point in time airscanner sniffer or any similar packet capping software working on a diamond and if so what rom were you using at the time? Any chef's know of any drivers that work on the diamond and also w/this type software?

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Not exactly sure what you're asking for...

Do you mean you're looking for software that will scan the WiFi frequencies and log findings? Basically, a wardriving app?

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No, he wants to hijack someone's wireless network. I don't think we talk about this kind of stuff at PPCGeeks, and it wouldn't be in the Diamond upgrades forum if at all.

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... You're pretty anal about someone asking for DRIVERS. Anyways, I was asking if anyone knew of some wifi for the touch diamond that would run specific software that would allow me to capture wifi packets. Although this could be part of a wep crack it could also be a few other things. As for this info about which wireless drivers might work with which program on our machines (I think the core issue for me is more what drivers are available and which work best in terms of range and complete software compatability, especially since I remember the stock telus wifi driver was terrible and I didn't even notice until I grabbed up Juicy rom w/an upgraded lan driver, this info might even make people porting android to our phones start looking at an ndiswrapper port) I couldn't think of a better place to post a question asking which versions of drivers for x slot on x device are available than a place where programmers (our cooks) have used them in verious software(roms) that they've been releasing to the community.

Anyways, if anyone has any idea what drivers work best with what software, be it Juicy or Cal or even one of the thousands of rom downloaders and users I would appreciate any info IE what rom or drivers you were using at the time.

No need to jump down my throat for asking a simple question about the best software for my phone... I'm not looking for wardriving software or network scanning software etc, I'm looking for the best (wifi) driver software that the chef's/users have seen

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from experiance with my laptop. ur gonna have to find an app to do this first. because the app will most likely need a certain driver. most the apps i found for my pc already had the drivers included. second capturing iv's is a long drawn out deal, unless the people are constantly downloading massive files over the roughter. when i say drawn out, i mean months of constant 24/7 scanning wont get u enough iv's. so there isnt much hope of doing this with a device that will die or over heat in 4 hours or less of constant wifi scaning. third u would be better off with a linux based device. the android is a step in that direction. but the versions for the diamond got a long way to go. im not sayin its impossible to do. but im am sayin it would be a challenge to say the least to captured the 250,000+ ivs needed. ur better of using ur desktop or lappy with linux for this kind of thing. trust me.

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READ MORE THAN THE EDIT. THE EDIT IS RAMBLING, TRYING TO CLUE IN SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T SEEM TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

Actually, depending on what OS you're using on your laptop (linux for example) you may have noticed that if you want to monitor a wep channel you might need to use madwifi-ng drivers and they might need to be patched. Or if you're using airmon-ng to monitor a wireless signal you could also try using the kernel drivers etc... Most of the software I see supports certain drivers but not others, drivers are the key because they interact between the hardware and the software, no app can put your card into promiscuous mode for example if your drivers don't support it. Again, everyone responding to my thread is getting totally off topic .. I'm not looking for cracking/hacking software etc, I'm looking for DRIVERS that will let me use more of my device by supporting more options that the card already has on it but the software can't access because the drivers are terribad from htc.

EDIT: if I wanted to go wardriving I would just use my laptop, it's already got gentoo, aircrack suite and patched driver software on it .... Also to share a little info from a technical standpoint, to crack say wpa2-psk I think all you need to do is cap a full 4-way handshake which would be as easy to do as watching a client connect, grab the packets or disassociate a client from the AP and watch them reconnect and run a brute force/dict attack on the handshake on your home computer... Another side note is that you can actually crack wep in 40-100k IVS, you can cause most access points to send IVS using software mixed with the correct drivers for your card. It took me 10 minutes to show my parents how hard it was to crack their 128 bit wep and what I could do from there with my laptop(it's a ****ty old ibm a22m thinkpad from the 90's too), imagine showing the network admin at work doing it on my cell phone(even capping the packets on a cell phone and running back to your desktop should be enough to make most people nervous), maybe then he'd understand where all our bandwidth is going.

EDIT2: Kind of wondering when "because it can so I want it to" became a bad reason to do things like upgrade drivers on your mobile ppc/phone. I wonder how our framerate would be if everyone thought that was a bad reason... http://www.htcclassaction.org/ or one of the thousands of 3d driver threads on the xda forums anyone?

EDIT 3: I've heard/read a few places that the card in our diamonds runs a chipset that is supported by the acx100 drivers available from sourceforge. The windows 98-vista version of these drivers would be the software available for the dlink dwl-650+ rev a pcmcia/pci cards but not being a winmo developer or anything I have no idea what I can do with this knowledge to try it out, again any well thought out ideas would be welcome (if we could use the windows driver for the tiacx100(texus instrument acx100) then it would seem reasonable to ask one of the devs on the android project to include the acx100 driver in one of their builds ...).

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Alright, I think I'm understanding a bit better.

Reading the last few posts re: cracking WEP with IV's and WPA/WPA2 with bruteforce and dictionaries made me wonder if http://forums.remote-exploit.org had taken over.

Best way to help is to direct you to user wyze. I took a brutal smack-down beating from him recently in this thread by saying porting backtrack to a smartphone was a dead dream. Apparently he has tried and seen some success. Perhaps this individual can answer your questions?

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He said you posted in the wrong forum... which you did.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=65921

You young'erns aren't gonna make any friends around here smack talking to a senior, influential member of the community like Indagroove.

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With that in mind I'm gonna move this to the general Diamond Forum.

late,
Coz

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well buddy my intent wasnt to explain to u how to crack someones key. i was just saying the tides are against u. sure there are other reasoms u might want put ur phone in monitor mode. but cracking keys is the most common one. so calm down partener, i just dont think a diamond is the best debice for the strain of capping. u may right and its the best idea ever. i hope ur right. better yet cuz u know so much i hope u write the driver

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TYVM for the move and also kidFromBigD :
I checked out a few similar threads, imho there are easier ways to do what these people want than porting an entire linux distro to our ppc/running android etc. One of the ways would be having fully functional winmo driver software. I think I've seen some of these apps running on a diamond. I think with the right type of drivers I could even have hidden AP's that aren't broadcasting their ssid's listed as unknowns (like my own) in winmo though I think that depends on winmo's networking capabilities too or might require additional software. He does mention phones using the acx chipset which I beleive the diamond is one of. Anyone aware of a driver for another phone that uses this chipset and supports a few more features than basic wlan connections? off to google

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While it's true that packate sniffing can be used for legitimate things, it's also true that 95% of the time when people ask about packate sniffing, it's for illegal purposes.

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Judgement call I guess, basically I feel that I got judged and found guilty for asking about driver versions for wlan/wifi on my diamond.

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Well, he isn't wrong that groove's "he's trying to hijack people's wifi!!!" was an unwarranted reaction to a simple question about promiscuous mode drivers. There are legitimate purposes; I was just sniffing my own connection a few days ago to make sure my tunneling setup was working and the browser wasn't leaking dns.

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OK, I was wrong -- I admit it. He might have been using it for legit purposes.

Bongs, uh I mean waterpipes, can be used for legit purposes too.

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I think maybe we were both wrong. I'm sorry, I also over reacted, you're sorry, everyones sorry but anyone got any info on good drivers that will let us tap into more of the potential of these cards in our diamonds? IMO cracking wifi on a cell is a little bit off but who knows if injection were working and such. My main concern at the moment is being able to detect hidden networks that aren't broadcasting their ssid, much like you can with kismet/airmon in nix but then you can toss your card into monitor mode. I tried wifi hitchhiker? and a few similar types of software and while they're good for picking up and connecting to ap's that are broadcasting they don't seem to be able to pick up ap's that aren't. I would figure airscanner/any packet cap app, since it seems mainly that packet capture apps want to put your card into monitor mode would be the best thing to ask about. I haven't really been able to find much info on devices using similar chipsets but fully functional driver software yet, but if I do you know I will post it here hoping that chef's realize how kick *** it would be to be able to run whatever app you wanted to download as long as it was for your platform.

EDIT: I love your roms by the way, but they're sprint only aren't they? Any chance you could switch to a generic release and have people grab carrier cabs? FSCKING telus at the moment here ... I guess I could ask the same of all chefs but that would be a thread in and of itself.

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I think WiFiFoFum will do what you need.

My roms are made for sprint, but users of other providers (including Telus) have reported using my roms fine. I don't make a generic rom, because internet sharing never works with the generic package. It might work after installing the Sprint OMC, but I'm a sprint user, so I make roms for my phone. You could just download my base, and build one for your carrier. I have the base and a howto in post 4 of the grooverom thread.

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So if I understand right a sniffer program can decipher an AES protocol? I have reasons to disagree but would like to know different opinions.

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No man, a sniffer can help you detect networks you can't normally see or help you gather packets for decryption later on. IMO you want to crack a wep key or wpa/wpa2 or even get more info on the subject you should go to google and type "howto crack wep/wpa". I gave someone a brief recap on cracking wep when they said the same thing about "drivers doing the cracking". There is no software available for ppc that will crack wep, and if you actually think about it ... how would carrying your ppc out with you, grabbing even all the IVS you would need to crack a wep, running home to decrypt them and then running back out to use the AP going to do any good at all? I think that being able to capture packets with our devices is something we should be able to do with the correct drivers given the hardware and being able to set my card into monitor would be pretty handy at times, which we should also be able to do given the hardware in our devices.

EDIT: Maybe a little clearer explanation. If you want to crack wep go to ****ing google. If you want to know about drivers for your ppc that support the best range of functions I would assume that you would look here/xda/google for the info. The reason I ask "does anyone know of a device driver that supports this app(airscanner sniffer)" is that the way the driver controls the card for those apps is slightly differnt than the way our current drivers control our hardware. Maybe using the app as example made things more confusing when it should have just cleared up everything right away "ohh, he's looking for drivers that support monitor mode" instead of "gtfo out hacker, we don't crack intarwebz around here LOL!!!~1"

THIS ISN'T A WEP CRACKING FORUM OR A WEP CRACKING THREAD. PLEASE STOP TRYING TO HIJACK MY ****/GO USE GOOGLE! This is a forum/thread for information on available device drivers and their support for commonly used functions.