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Sooo... i don't know about anybody else, but Android on the Diamond would be amazing, wouldn't it ?

I mean I love the custom roms - (thanks Juicy and Myke and all the others) - but an android interface would be too sick =]]

I saw what the G1 can do, and the specs on G1 don't even compare with the Diamond - So it would look sooo good.

Ahhhhhhh I can't wait :headbang:

Rock On!

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I really don't see what the big deal with Android is, my G/F has the G1 and its kind of an ugly phone with an "ok" OS IMHO

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The appeal really is the official "open" nature of the OS for development. (at least for me anyway...)

Sure we can tweak and customize our WinMo phones now, but the Android OS takes it alot further from everything I've been reading.

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You can sudo on android. That makes a specific class of people all hot. It's pure geek porn.

Yes, I too lust for android on my phone.

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yeah im looking forward to android also. i wasnt that crazy about it at all, til i started seeing what it can do....

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ive been following this for some time now, it is not functional on the diamond or Pro yet

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not yet., but the developers have made a lot of progress.

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U think android is the shznit huh? open source huh? none of U know what open source is and what it can do for U. The only people that I know will like android is the linux people. all U PC's are just suckered by the hype.

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wow, never expected such an off the wall response from YOU dude, someone must have pizzed in ur corn flakes this morning.

and umm, i know what open source is, and believe me, im a Windows and Linux fanboy, and im still looking forward to running android on my diamond..
so umm, that generalization is pretty inaccurate buddy

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what open source can do for U? give U the best app for free?

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It is indeed pure geek porn, and I do desire it from a geek perspective.

But at the end of the day, I just want my phone to work. And Android doesn't really seem to do anything better than Windows Mobile at this point.

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Whoa, what? Calm down dude. This forum is filled with computer geeks and programmers. I deal with and administer Linux and Unix systems on a daily basis. Half of the software I use professionally and as a hobby is open source. And my experience is probably dwarfed by a lot of people here.

So calm down. You're not the authority on open source around here.

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yeah but the android will have more advertisement than the diamond, which means more application/game development, like theres already an app that scans stuff you may want to buy, then it uses the internet and finds it for a cheaper price in your location.

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damn it, how many time do I have to reply to this "Android" post?

here it goes again:

Android is made by GOOGLE which is nothing but an advertizer/marketing company. they design an OS so that everything have to go through their serices (gmail, etc) where they can sell more ad. "no sync to outlook" is an example

got it?

I don't trust marketing company to keep my personal information for marketing purpose. don't be fool by "open source". google gives you a candy and you jump like a kid.

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Ok read read read:

Five Common Myths About Linux and Android (Updated)

• Written by Christopher Price on October 23, 2008
• Google Android (OHA), T-Mobile

Yes, Android is a Linux phone. But, none of the apps are. Read more for a simple guide about how Android software works… and why it doesn’t work the way most believe.

Myth #1 - Android Lets You Run Linux Software.
While Android’s operating system is powered by Linux, all third-party applications run on a modified form of Java, called Dalvik.
Dalvik is essentially a fine-tuned version of Java, which Google made to avoid licensing fees. Dalvik is relatively identical to a desktop version of Java. In the future, Google plans to extend Dalvik with additional APIs that make it better for phones than Java.
So, to be clear, you cannot take your favorite Linux apps and just port them to Android.
Myth #2 - Enabling unsigned code lets you run Linux apps.
Like iPhone, applications have to play by Google’s rules. Even when you tell an Android phone to run Dalvik applications not approved by Google, there is no option to enable running Linux applications.
Myth #3 - I can just “jailbreak” my G1 to run Linux apps.
Sorry, no such method has been developed to date. While hackers have cooked custom versions of Android to run on select HTC devices… nobody has accomplished that on the G1. Worse, even bypassing any code checks… still wouldn’t get past the fact that Android doesn’t want to run Linux applications on the screen.
Android’s source code would have to be modified to permit running Linux applications… an even larger hurdle since the screen is controlled by Dalvik. It would require advanced Java and Linux programming to accomplish such a task. Even then, the system is running a pared-down version of Linux, designed to run nothing but Java/Dalvik apps.
Still, it’s not impossible for the future… there is enough code sitting in the SDK to pull it off. However, it would probably be about as buggy as the first jailbroken iPhone applications… that’s what not having a full SDK will do to a program.
As noted in the article update, some have called into question the relative ease of modifying Linux apps to run on Android… once some workaround has been developed. However, even if porting Linux applications to Android were easy today (and nobody is saying that at this point)… you still can’t get them to run on the G1 currently.
Myth #4 - Google is just waiting to roll out Linux app support in a few months.
Again, sorry, not true. There are no plans on the table at the OHA to open up Android to Linux apps. Considering mainstream phone makers like Samsung and Motorola haven’t even released first-generation Android phones… the change won’t happen any time soon.
Myth #5 - Google wants to open up Android to Linux.
Google has always existed in a world where Linux played second fiddle to the underlying software. Be it Python-powered Google searches, or Java-powered Dalvik, Google has never appreciated Linux as a runtime.
In fact, the only mainstream application to run in Linux, is Google Earth. And, that program requires a good multi-hour boot camp to learn how to install properly (for a person new to Linux). There aren’t any pre-packaged, double-click-to-install-versions.
(Google also does offer Picasa for Linux, however, it is the Windows version pre-packaged in a self-contained WINE environment, rather than a true Linux port).
Google doesn’t appear to want to embrace native Linux applications, but rather, spend the next several years developing Dalvik into an application platform of its own… complete with all the desktop services of comparable, modern, computing environments (Cocoa/Obj-C and .NET/C#).
Finally, opening up Android to Linux takes away the selectivity. While someone could answer Dalvik’s call with their own bytecode… opening up to Linux would put Android in a suicidal position. There is nothing stopping Android from being code-compatible with other mobile forms of Linux. That would take away any benefit from being tied to the OHA, and tied to Google. Then each manufacture would pick-and-mix their own mobile Linux distribution.
While that may be good for consumers… it wouldn’t be good for Google. And, thus, Linux will remain a background traffic cop, flowing only to Dalvik apps. Google seems to like the idea… it’s very profitable for them.

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geek porn? yeah and so what? the point is android is completely open source. Noone said we wanted to replace WM with it. We just want to be able to run it on our own hardware and also keep WM. Just like there are tons of people who dual boot windows and ubuntu.

Android will open up a whole new avenue of apps, just youtube the damn shizzit.

Jethro, maybe u need a nap? ive never seen u act so combative b4

and its a marketing system? come on, that could be partially true, wait, not even partially, we all know how google operates...

But your telling me that a connect the dots unlock program from andoid is pure marketing hype?

lol, please spare me.

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I'm cool bro. Just tryin to wake some people up.

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Alrighhhhhht. well lets not get too off topic ;)

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I apologize for the harsh intro. I am just not a biggy on android and a lot of people are being suckered by another with misconception about the android. I see some post that they use the browser on G1 and they are sold already. LOL with the browser? Ha Ha Ha.

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I'm out. Can't blame U guys if U really like the android. But I think U should know some things.

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yeah i feel you. android is definately not the biggest thing since sliced bread. but in the geek world lol, it opens up possibilities for more useful and innovative programs. i think that most of us just want to be able to run it on our phones instead of buying that stupid G1. no harm no foul dude, we both been round here for a while so lets keep it moving!

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My apolgy to U as well my brother.

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android on the diamond would be awesome to play with, but it would take awhile before it would be "better" than windows mobile because of the lack of apps created so far. I know that since it is so much easier to develop android software that there will be a wide range of creative apps, but look at how many windows mobile programs there are already.. android definitely has some catching up to do... and besides, windows mobile 7 is on its way and who knows what goodies that will bring...

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I think I will agree on that. It'sstill a young OS. And Sprint even said that Android for now is not good enough yet to be carried by them. But sprint said that they will carry it in time. But not as of yet.

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one good thing about Android is that it wake up Microsoft, the giant. Microsoft will pour money and resource into WM at no cost, even giving out alot of free features which used to be third-party app. Or MS even copy Android features and make that feature better on WM. they did this to Netscape

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Another good point.

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Now things are moving at a good phase. LOL

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I am trying hard to give a real expectation to those who got pulled in to "Android" hype.

one more example. remember Firefox (open source)? used to be a new cool thing which happened to browser. it got alot of cool features but MS coppied them all and make those features available in IE. Firefox still does not have that big market share as IE.

or even Linux, open source; people even claimed that linux will take over window. with all the hype, it did not get too far from where it were. MS choked off all of those offense.

now let's get back to Dimamond and Window Mobile, shall we? too much distraction around here.

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winmo 7 well destroy the android especially after some creative apps are developed!

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:headbang:

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I don't want Android touching my Diamond until the bugs are all squared away and TouchFLO 3D is ported over and running twice as fast as it does on winmo!

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http://bp0.blogger.com/_MTxmQmQ6nNM/...in_costume.jpg
"I'm a Linux, and I think android is the shznit"

http://www.joandimicco.com/blog/images/pc-guy.jpg
"I'm a PC, and I'm suckered by the hype."

(ps - yeah I am a linux person, android would be nice.)

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In all honesty, the majority of people that are really clamoring for Android are those that are just tired of the same old crap. When I say crap I mean the same basic OS that is Windows Mobile. Regardless of what people say, people do like change or at least what is perseaved as the next best thing.

Android looks to be faster and smoother then WM but whether that would be true if fully loaded like WM is remains to be seen.

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LOL on this 1. I think that's priceless.

but wait wait, The people that think that android is the shiznit is the PC people that was suckered by the hype. Linux people will automatically like the Android. No doubt.

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Anyone see this yet? It's not pretty, but... looks like things are ramping up!

http://www.gsmdome.com/htc/android-0...ideo-demo_1196

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I've looked at an android phone before and it's about the most cluttered thing you'll ever see! It's even worse than WinMo. It takes a press to do this, a long press to do that, it's just confusing! They have a good idea with the application development/deployment. I read somewhere that WinMo was prepping an app development/deployment solution, which would be sweet! They just need to get people excited to develop for WinMo, and give them the tools to do so. There's not nearly enough good programs out there. I have an iPod Touch and you go out to the App Store and it's loaded up with cool things.

Where's our cool apps? I know that most WinMo people think of their phones more as tools than toys, but why can't they be both!?

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our apps are scattered on various websites in .cab forms. In short you have to have some navigation and smarts to make the most of your WinMo phone

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This unfortunately is the largest downfall of the Windows Mobile device family. They all have a certain shiny factor to those who have no business operating a device so complex. These are the same people who cannot manage a Mac running Classic, but want the 'top of the line, best of the best' gadgets.

For these people, there was created... dun dun dun.. The BLACKBERRY. Sure, you can modify them... a bit. They can be tweaked. Can you intentionally break the OS? Nope. Can you even flash an unsigned rom to them? Nope. Any SPLs? Nope. Software? Hah! Try doing a google search for "Blackberry torrent" see what you come up with.

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I hadn't seen this wiki entry posted here. Just thought I'd add it (if only so I can track it down later). Still no luck with Android 1.0 though the G1 was recently unlocked/"jail broken" so I hope that leads to additional breakthroughs soon.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...e=RaphaelLinux