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jbmercha 09-19-2008 03:05 PM

Browse like a desktop
 
How can I browse websites without them taking me to the mobile versions? (Example, Google calendar) The diamond has a great enough resolution where I don't think it needs these gimped versions of the websites.

qbanflak0 09-19-2008 03:05 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmercha (Post 423859)
How can I browse websites without them taking me to the mobile versions? (Example, Google calendar) The diamond has a great enough resolution where I don't think it needs these gimped versions of the websites.


opera already does this....

darren.wlsn1 09-19-2008 03:31 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
there is setting in opera to use both ways, check your settings

madman16420 09-19-2008 03:46 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
sky fire

jason25 09-19-2008 03:52 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
I thought people said skyfire didn't play with the diamond?

drnezzy 09-19-2008 10:23 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
As for Skyfire, it doesn't work as far as I know. I haven't tried to get my beta code sent to the Diamond though.

But I'm glad that there's an option for full sites instead of mobile ones. The layout of ESPN and CNN are much better in full versions than the mobile ones.

darren.wlsn1 09-19-2008 11:06 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
syfire does work on my diamond,goto website and edit profile.

cortez 09-20-2008 01:15 AM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
ok...i got my diamond to browse like a desktop by changing the User Agent to 3 and Custom-User Agent to SAMSUNG-SGH-i900/1.0 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en) Opera 9.5. the Custom-User Agent string is from my Orbit 2. my initial perception is that rendering is somewhat slower. below is pic of the msnbc.com website on the diamond before zooming in. below the picture is the content of my opera.ini file (which is where changes are stored). (if you try this, be sure to BACKUP your opera.ini file first!!). i'll continue testing to see if this works with other websites.

http://i33.tinypic.com/2ikxl39.jpg

<---- Begin Opera.ini---->
Opera Preferences version 2.1
; Do not edit this file while Opera is running
; This file is stored in UTF-8 encoding

[Install]
Preference URL=http://xml.opera.com/spoof/wince/?pnum=1053&version=9.50
Browser First Time Launch=0

[User Prefs]
Default URL=http://www.sprint.com/powerdeck
Ignore Unrequested Popups=1
Help URL=\Windows\Opera9\help\en\
Language File=\Windows\Opera9\locale\english.lng
Warn Insecure Form=0
Rendering Mode=0
Maximum Allowed Tabs=3
Keyboard Orientation=0
UAProf URL=http://device.sprintpcs.com/HTC/MP6950SP/1096515.rdf
UAProf URL Enabled=1
User JavaScript=1
Always load User JavaScript=1
BrowserJS Timestamp Last Check=1212034904924.000000
Overrides Timestamp=1204454187
Custom User-Agent=SAMSUNG-SGH-i900/1.0 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en) Opera 9.5
Download Directory=\Internal Storage\Music
Minimum Font Size=9
Home URL=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
URL Type=1

[Cache]
Document=7000
Figure=3000

[Disk Cache]
Size=4000
Empty On Exit=1

[Security Prefs]
Enable SSL v2=1
Enable SSL v3=1
Enable TLS v1.0=1
Enable TLS v1.1=0

[File Types]
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint=4,\Windows\ppt.exe,,,ppt,|
application/sdp=3,\windows\StreamingPlayer.exe,,,sdp,|
application/x-sdp=3,\windows\StreamingPlayer.exe,,,sdp,|
application/x-rtsp=3,\windows\StreamingPlayer.exe,,,sdp,|
application/mheg=3,\windows\wmplayer.exe,,,mheg,|
application/rstl=3,\windows\wmplayer.exe,,,rstl,|
text/vnd.sun.j2me.app-descriptor=9,,,,jad,|
application/java-archive=9,,,,jar,|
audio/x-wav=0,,,,wav,|
audio/midi=0,,,,midi,|
audio/mid=0,,,,mid,|
audio/wav=0,,,,wav,|
audio/x-ms-wma=4,,,,wma,|
video/3gpp=1,,,,3gp,|
audio/wma=0,\windows\MusicGizmoUtility.exe,,,wma,|

[File Types Extension]
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint=,0
application/mheg=,0
application/rstl=,0
application/sdp=,0
text/vnd.sun.j2me.app-descriptor=\windows\appdb\,2
application/java-archive=\windows\appdb\,2

[Adaptive Zoom]
Maximum Zoom=200
Minimum Zoom=160
Virtual Screen Width=960
Minimum overview Zoom=60

[Trusted Protocols]
mms=1,0,
rtsp=1,0,
sprint="0,0,"\Windows\SprintMusicLauncher.exe""

[Network]
Check Local HostName=1
Conn Mgr Auto Detect Network=1
Conn Mgr Attempt Timeout=60000
UA Post Platform=PPC

[Colors]
Highlighted Background=#23dc23
Highlighted Text=#ffffff

[User Agent]
Spoof UserAgent ID=3
<---- End Opera.ini---->

uuummmk 09-20-2008 03:04 AM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darren.wlsn1 (Post 423897)
there is setting in opera to use both ways, check your settings

The setting doesn't work. I had to go to other vesions of espn and cnn and back my way into the full site. It always defaults to the mobile version if you check or uncheck the box in opera...

cortez 09-20-2008 03:08 AM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
looks like my changes don't work with every site... i'm still getting mobile sites vs. desktop. the search continues....

jeremyw90 09-20-2008 12:52 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed that the Sprint Diamond has this flaw as well. Why would they put this default setting in their version of Opera to make it identify as a mobile browser?

drnezzy 09-20-2008 12:57 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
I figured out ESPN...just go to http://espn.go.com in the address bar instead of the normal www.espn.com.

I did this and it loaded the whole page; obviously a little slower than the mobile site, but it sure as heck looked good on that VGA screen.

jeremyw90 09-20-2008 01:09 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Someone has to figure this out. I tried a registry hack I found on xda, and messed with the opera.ini file. Both gave me no results.

I wonder why this isn't bigger news. Seems no one is complaining about this.

nashmage 09-20-2008 02:57 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
I thought that the opera the diamond came with was supposed to be great? it always goes to mobile versions of websites or only a few? and skyfire wont work ouch this hurts def something im going to be angry with when i get my phone this week.

nashmage 09-20-2008 03:12 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Also what about skyfire doesnt work? does it not install at all? not load up? crash alot more than on other phones/etc ? thanks in advance

jeremyw90 09-20-2008 04:56 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nashmage (Post 425194)
I thought that the opera the diamond came with was supposed to be great? it always goes to mobile versions of websites or only a few?

It is a nice browsing experience overall. BUT, it does go to the mobile version of most media pages, like Nytimes, Cnn, Msnbc, Espn etc.
I think these sites were coded to recognize mobile browsers and give condensed versions of the page to cut down on load times.

For standard web pages, you get the desktop browser view.

One of the previous rips of the Opera build had this limitation a while back also. IMO it's frustrating and unnecessary.

jwfos22 09-20-2008 05:44 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Can some one look into www.nfl.com. It always loads up in mobile version

Tiberius85 09-20-2008 06:18 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
www.2advanced.com Perfect site to show off your flash capabilities to your iphone friends.

syanni85 09-21-2008 08:35 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
question... is there a reg hack or setting so that my phone is recognized as a desktop rather than a cell phone?

The only reason i want flash is to get www.pandora.com to work, but it tells me pandora only supports certain sprint phones and not mine... so i wanna fool it into thinking i'm at my desktop...

any suggestions?

jbmercha 09-21-2008 08:57 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
I agree, I'd love to get pandora working on my phone

hibby50 09-21-2008 09:00 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madman16420 (Post 423929)
sky fire

+1 defiantly best

foxnews 09-21-2008 09:07 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiberius85 (Post 425376)
www.2advanced.com Perfect site to show off your flash capabilities to your iphone friends.


I went to this that site and it said my brower did not have flash. Do I have to download flash? and what version?

tspot 09-21-2008 09:10 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Anyone had any luck finding a fix for this. I hate having to scroll to the bottom of every page I go to just so I can click html format not mobile format. This is probably my biggest annoyance with my phone right now.

Tspot

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SirNathaniel 09-21-2008 09:12 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
okay, so how does the opera browser compare to skyfire? I saw on youtube that you can even access youtube through opera and watch videos on their pages just like skyfire, are there more video related things in webpages that opera can interact with?

Tiberius85 09-21-2008 10:10 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Quote:

I went to this that site and it said my brower did not have flash. Do I have to download flash? and what version?
FlashLite 3.1.

Tiberius85 09-21-2008 11:32 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
in the browser goto the address opera:config

Goto the User Prefs

Scroll near the middle

Change Custom User Agent to: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 6.0; en)

Scroll to the very bottom of that section. Hit Save. Browse to a page formerly mobilized. SUCCESS!

egreenwood1 10-07-2008 03:16 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
do we have to type in the stuff in ()

jbmercha 10-10-2008 04:09 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Added FlashLite 3.1, and changed my user agent to Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 6.0; en) But I still can't get pandora.com to work, or even try to work. Any suggestions?

posnera 10-10-2008 04:15 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiberius85 (Post 426844)
in the browser goto the address opera:config

Goto the User Prefs

Scroll near the middle

Change Custom User Agent to: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 6.0; en)

Scroll to the very bottom of that section. Hit Save. Browse to a page formerly mobilized. SUCCESS!


I typed that in exactly (triple checked for typos) but espn.com still sends to the mobile site, as does nytimes.com. What else could I try/what am I doing wrong?

beardiver9 11-30-2008 10:39 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Skyfire now has a VGA version it works great

mixxy 12-01-2008 09:03 AM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
skyfire works perfectly. it has been adapted recently to work on vga devices. It on an open beta too. Go install, works like a charm.

www.skyfire.com

nttdemented 12-01-2008 02:34 PM

Re: Browse like a desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiberius85 (Post 426844)
in the browser goto the address opera:config

Goto the User Prefs

Scroll near the middle

Change Custom User Agent to: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 6.0; en)

Scroll to the very bottom of that section. Hit Save. Browse to a page formerly mobilized. SUCCESS!

This is what has to be done. As for Pandora, YouTube or any other flash intensive, media streaming web site I say use SkyFire as its the best for that sort of thing. I switch between both browsers. I always use Opera with the above mentioned User Agent and if I want to see a news video on msnbc, or cnn or just browse the full youtube site, etc. I use Skyfire as its proxy based rendering makes absolutely sure that sites get streamed to your phone exactly how they are seen on a desktop. I'd use it all the time but I like the graphic quality of Opera and its smart fit function works better. Skyfire is a little blury because it's a compressed image of the page wich is rendered on a proxy server, the slightly lowered image quality coupled with proxied rendering makes it blazingly fast though. If they can sharpen it up a bit visually and make the smart fit feature work better I'll switch over to it permanently. :evil4:


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