Custom ROM Service
 

I am wondering about the possibility of providing a custom ROM building service to those who do not know how to use kitchens, but would like a nice ROM, with their custom programs so that they can hard reset at any time, and boot into their nicely customized ROM.

This service could include:

Custom Applications
Custom Registry Tweaks
Custom Splash Screens
Custom Themes
Latest enhancements to the kitchens at the time of build
Support for issues you have in the ROM

Of course this would not be a free service, but between myself and maybe one or two other chefs the costs could be devided.

If you'd like to be part of this project, just let me know.

A poll has been started to help decide the morality of this topic.
Please feel free to speak freely (without insult) on this topic, if you are strongly for or against it, let us know, that's why we're here.

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I don't think there should be a charge for roms of any kind. I think this caused dharvey to get pounded pretty hard.

Since most rom components and tools for making roms that are available have been provided for free, and most everything is someone else's work. I don't beleive anyone should charge a fee for making ROMS....It is your time, but the software authors that provided the tools for building roms had no intentions of making them so someone could charge for their work.

This has been greatly debated over the last couple month', and generally not accepted.

All they have to do is read my tutorials and/or post a question.

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I have to agree. Which is why the standard ROMs and kitchen I contribute to have been, and always will be free, as well the many tutorials and tools.

That being said, custom ROMs generally cater to a wide range of people and a wide range of features. There are options such as SDAutorun that works to help customize these ROMs to your own tastes that are very good. Kitchens are also the most amazing tool allowing nearly anything to be possible, and free.

The idea I have is for a more basic user that has no interest in kitchens but likes a one of a kind ROM that fits their specific needs.

Like I said, it's just an idea, if no one wants it, it won't happen. If people do then they do.

I've had a few requests where people have offered, which is why I put this forward.

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You know what may be good? A new thread in the off topic section that ask's the users of this board. Usually the chefs chime in harshly. Think of some good options, and ask that question again with a poll. In the off topic section so everyone get's to it, it's a fluke I read your first post being in the diamond section.

But let's ask the users with a poll that same question. Good poll answers, a simple yes or no won't suffice.... It should be interesting to see how it turns out...

edit: this sorta stuff has killed the vogue upgrade forum already...

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Coming from the common guy who has no idea how to cook a rom this sounds like a good idea . But I see how some people who develope could become upset seeing others prophet off of free material. Anyway sounds like something that would intrest me considering that "like previously metioned" i have no idea how to cook a rom.

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The ol' catch 22....
Users that want it, can't cook yet.
Users that oppose it, provide the tools to cook with...usually for free...

I vote for the I'll cook you a custom rom, just no artzy stuff.

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This site is about PPC custom ROMs and provides for FREE all the information. The ROMs by and large, are free. The kitchens are free. If you want to donate, a lot of the chefs have that. The kitchen has that. This site has that. I have donated to a lot here, but it was my own free will and my way of saying thanks. Why pay to have someone cook up a ROM when the kitchen makes it so easy?

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And the basis of a supply and demand market.

I vote that ROMs should be, and are free, but if you want the artsy stuff, you pay for it, and if you really like certain programs, you donate to those authors so they continue to make them.

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Wouldn't there be some legal issue, involved with this as well

How do i access thw kitchen, i would like to tak a shot at making my own ROM

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It's hard to say. Laws seldom keep up with the digital world. Many will claim they are not charging for the free software. They are charging for their services. Services being the time they spent putting it together, and their time they have invested in obtaining the knowledge to do so. Usually members of the community do all the vigilante justice. :)

How many have chimed in against e-bay_dude selling ppcgeeks stuff. This is about the same to me...

edit: all the tools are free, most of the programs are ripped from a rom. Roms that the provider has paid a licensing fee to say GoogleMaps to provide that software in their say, Sprint Rom. No, GoogleMaps isn't free...

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I was reading a article in the Globe a couple months back. They were saying they were going to make everything that we do here Illegal ie REMOVING ELECTRONIC LOCKING SYSTEMS FROM ANY DEVICE

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You'll want to read some of my Rom building tutorials first. There are a 3-4 diamond kitchens @ xda's , Toby's/ghettorfreeryders on the ftp, and there's that ppckitchen.org that will probably be adding support for the diamond some time soon....

Re: Custom ROM Service
 

Thank for your help, I'll check it out

Re: Custom ROM Service
 

Are you talking about the Globe and Mail? I believe you're talking about hte upcoming bill C-61.

Keep in mind that this site is mostly American, and what we do up here in Canada doesn't have much impact on the States.

Clint

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Keep in mind that this side is mainly focused on the CDMA diamond, so when choosing a kitchen to cook your ROMs, use the correct kitchen!

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Thank for the info, im with Telus. So that should be good

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Thank goodness for that

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Hmm.. about 1/3 of people would actually like a ROM Service so far...

About 40% believe this is a bad idea for reasons other than it already being easy.

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Most of my tutorials are fairly generic. They should apply for the diamond too, and give good general knowledge. Same principles, maybee some different kitchen tools...

Wow, poll results:

12 for custom service

30 against.

If you check the vogue upgrade forum, their sorta having world war III over there and slowly ousting chefs with donation buttons. It is happening and this board is losing users as they are jumping ship and going elsewhere... It's not what it used to be...

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There are no morality issues here.

Ethical issues, perhaps. The issues for me are (1) profiting from the reuse of work of numerous chefs, (2) profiting from the use of tools and source material of questionable legality.

The hacker in me has no issue with the activities in (1) and (2), but the profit is an issue. Kind of like people seliing burned copies of DVD's on eBay for profit.

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I suppose if they took out all the ads, added a cool menu at the start and added in alterative scenes...

In any case, the FREE kitchen tutorial is being worked on for those that would like to learn how to do this for themselves.

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As this action makes for "bootlegging",and this is also no venue to be selling something that shouldn't be for resale at all as it puts the site to shambles in the long run.

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Bad idea bud. I lost all credibility and got slammed by just about all senior members here for doing exactly what you're considering here now. I don't want to see another take the same route as me.

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First, I clicked the wrong one (was talking to someone when I clicked). I do think that donations for A chefs time are fine, and when people feel so inclined or can afford it. If you are going to require payment, you would also have to pay those who made it possible, ImCoKeMaN for example, without him there would be no custom ROMs.