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orangekid 12-16-2009 10:31 AM

xt garmin ghost
 
I saw some posts talking about the illness of garmin xt, so decided to download a cab I got from google and install it, when it wouldn't work right I checked around and saw I was supposed to PAY for the software, I'd been had by the evil piracy gods, so I uninstalled the software faster than a 2010 mustang cobra shebly gt500 and was in the process of reflashing anyways, so I flash stock then flash OMJ 21882 sense 2.5 and it asks me if i want to install garmin xt? But OMJ didn't put that stuff in his ROM on december 4th, so I dont get how it knows I had that installed after 2 flashes. I found a garmin xt folder on my internal, and deleted that, seems now it has stopped asking me if I want to install that stuff, but that was still weird, anyone know what that was about?


also, any of you really pay like $100 for that software? that's insane, I could get a bb3380 or put in another benjamin and get a hero or something, why would anyone spend $100 on mobile gps software when you can get turn-by-turn with other free programs?

KBZL 12-16-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 1417304)
also, any of you really pay like $100 for that software? that's insane, I could get a bb3380 or put in another benjamin and get a hero or something, why would anyone spend $100 on mobile gps software when you can get turn-by-turn with other free programs?

Cause its pretty.

orangekid 12-16-2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kbussen (Post 1417320)
Cause its pretty.


nice.:joker:

KBZL 12-16-2009 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 1417324)
nice.:joker:

Lol. I use TomTom. I read a report recently where someone compared IGO8, tomtom, and garmin xt. TomTom just out performed Garmin by just a little bit.

mwalt2 12-16-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 1417304)
I found a garmin xt folder on my internal, and deleted that, seems now it has stopped asking me if I want to install that stuff, but that was still weird, anyone know what that was about?

It's just how the programs works. It places auto-run files inside /internal storage/2577 directory (you can delete this and it won't prompt to install anymore). These will run after you flash a new rom to install garmin again. Many of the garmin files are stored on the internal storage since you'd be hard-pressed to get the map files on main memory.

orangekid 12-16-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kbussen (Post 1417337)
Lol. I use TomTom. I read a report recently where someone compared IGO8, tomtom, and garmin xt. TomTom just out performed Garmin by just a little bit.


how much did you pay for tomtom? and how is tomtom better than lets say google maps navigation or amaze gps or whatever, i mean I just like voice turn by turn, I can't be trying to look at my 2.8" diamond screen while driving in Houston traffic lest I end up dead.

orangekid 12-16-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mwalt2 (Post 1417344)
It's just how the programs works. It places auto-run files inside /internal storage/2577 directory (you can delete this and it won't prompt to install anymore). These will run after you flash a new rom to install garmin again. Many of the garmin files are stored on the internal storage since you'd be hard-pressed to get the map files on main memory.

so that 2577 folder is like an autorun after a fresh flash?

KBZL 12-16-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 1417347)
how much did you pay for tomtom? and how is tomtom better than lets say google maps navigation or amaze gps or whatever, i mean I just like voice turn by turn, I can't be trying to look at my 2.8" diamond screen while driving in Houston traffic lest I end up dead.

I cant remember how much i paid at this point, i have had it for a couple of years. Its great for turn by turn. Graphics are nice. The only problem i have found with current GPS programs is that they dont update roads very often. I do know that the newer TomTom has mapshare, I havent personally used but just judging by the name, im assuming it allows people to make correction to certain maps and share them with the tomtom community.

orangekid 12-16-2009 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kbussen (Post 1417412)
I cant remember how much i paid at this point, i have had it for a couple of years. Its great for turn by turn. Graphics are nice. The only problem i have found with current GPS programs is that they dont update roads very often. I do know that the newer TomTom has mapshare, I havent personally used but just judging by the name, im assuming it allows people to make correction to certain maps and share them with the tomtom community.


so doesn't that mean that googlemaps navigation is actually better because you have to DL the map every time you log on (not saved on your phone) and it would be updated more often? (of course they don't have that on wm yet)

KBZL 12-16-2009 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 1417421)
so doesn't that mean that googlemaps navigation is actually better because you have to DL the map every time you log on (not saved on your phone) and it would be updated more often? (of course they don't have that on wm yet)

Google navigation looks promising. But yes, if google navigation updates everytime you log on, it will be sweet!

orangekid 12-16-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kbussen (Post 1417430)
Google navigation looks promising. But yes, if google navigation updates everytime you log on, it will be sweet!

also f.r.e.e. that spells free. (god I hate that song)

KBZL 12-16-2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 1417453)
also f.r.e.e. that spells free. (god I hate that song)

Lol. Im with you on that one.

MrObvious 12-16-2009 01:49 PM

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I like having Garmin as it sure comes in handy.

orangekid 12-16-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1417761)
I like having Garmin as it sure comes in handy.

but its $100 better than google maps and other free navigators?

violent31601 12-16-2009 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1417761)
I like having Garmin as it sure comes in handy.

Agree'd

I sure do agree with you a lot...

MrObvious 12-16-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 1417773)
but its $100 better than google maps and other free navigators?

Yup. IDK why but it is just a lot better IMO.

orangekid 12-16-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1418027)
Yup. IDK why but it is just a lot better IMO.


wow you Obviously roll fat, must be truly superlative

kaarukun 12-16-2009 07:44 PM

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Even though I use google maps most of the time, the biggest problem with google maps is when entering locations without cell reception. Pretty much makes it useless. I never had that issue when trying out the Garmin XT a while back since the maps are preloaded on the internal storage.

orangekid 12-17-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kaarukun (Post 1418767)
Even though I use google maps most of the time, the biggest problem with google maps is when entering locations without cell reception. Pretty much makes it useless. I never had that issue when trying out the Garmin XT a while back since the maps are preloaded on the internal storage.

makes sense in some areas, in Houston though theres alwasy "cell reception" and I conect to like 12 gps satellites so I've never had an issue.

iggy 12-17-2009 11:06 AM

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OK so why does everyone forget the most important thing about Garmin, you can go offroad whereas IGO and TomTom kinda shows you where you are in connection to the closest road available.

Not sure if Google does offroad so can't comment on that one.

orangekid 12-17-2009 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by iggy (Post 1420246)
OK so why does everyone forget the most important thing about Garmin, you can go offroad whereas IGO and TomTom kinda shows you where you are in connection to the closest road available.

Not sure if Google does offroad so can't comment on that one.


guess most people don't off road that much, but that's a good point.

iggy 12-17-2009 11:15 AM

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AHHH but they do, not necessarily with their cars but Hiking, rock climbing....it's all the same, you're off the beating track and if you wonder around long enough you can definetely get lost (am I the only one who came across some USELESS trail sings that just had you walking in circles) :-)

orangekid 12-17-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by iggy (Post 1420268)
AHHH but they do, not necessarily with their cars but Hiking, rock climbing....it's all the same, you're off the beating track and if you wonder around long enough you can definetely get lost (am I the only one who came across some USELESS trail sings that just had you walking in circles) :-)


well I don't personally know anyone who hikes or rock climbs (anything outside of the rock gym place, that place is kinda cool) so I just assumed most people didn't go hiking and stuff,

but I know some people who go hunting/fishing, of course any decent boat has its own GPS

MrObvious 12-17-2009 12:59 PM

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Or if you go off to say a parking lot it shows that.

orangekid 12-17-2009 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1420515)
Or if you go off to say a parking lot it shows that.

yeah but if you're using google maps and you're in a parking lot I don't think you need a GPS to tell you that.

georgepa 12-17-2009 01:03 PM

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I loaded Garmin XT on my Diamond, but hardly ever use it. The reason is that I am with Boost CDMA, which is an offshoot of Sprint, and can therefore use Sprint Navigation for free. The biggie there is that Sprint Navigation gives turn by turn WITH STREET NAME. Garmin does not. Sometimes turnoffs can be confusing because two roads veer to the right or left, so when the spoken instruction gives you the actual street name instead of just "turn right in 200 feet" that can be a time saver. Sprint Navigation is actually the Telenav application, rebranded as a Sprint app.

Not sure about some of the other solutions out there, but Telenav checks current traffic reports and reroutes if necessary (in the event of an accident blocking lanes, for example,) which has been helpful to me already a few times.

As for Google Maps, that is not really a turn-by-turn for our Diamonds, right? I don't see where that can compare. Now, AmazeGPS does compare, as it is a free turn-by-turn app, but I find it inferior to both Garmin XT and Sprint Navigation (Telenav.)

orangekid 12-17-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by georgepa (Post 1420528)
I loaded Garmin XT on my Diamond, but hardly ever use it. The reason is that I am with Boost CDMA, which is an offshoot of Sprint, and can therefore use Sprint Navigation for free. The biggie there is that Sprint Navigation gives turn by turn WITH STREET NAME. Garmin does not. Sometimes turnoffs can be confusing because two roads veer to the right or left, so when the spoken instruction gives you the actual street name instead of just "turn right in 200 feet" that can be a time saver. Sprint Navigation is actually the Telenav application, rebranded as a Sprint app.

Not sure about some of the other solutions out there, but Telenav checks current traffic reports and reroutes if necessary (in the event of an accident blocking lanes, for example,) which has been helpful to me already a few times.

As for Google Maps, that is not really a turn-by-turn for our Diamonds, right? I don't see where that can compare. Now, AmazeGPS does compare, as it is a free turn-by-turn app, but I find it inferior to both Garmin XT and Sprint Navigation (Telenav.)

how do u get sprint nav for free just cuz ur on boost mobile when if I am on sprint and want to use it its $10 a month?

MrObvious 12-17-2009 03:47 PM

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Here we go.
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Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 1420527)
yeah but if you're using google maps and you're in a parking lot I don't think you need a GPS to tell you that.

I didn't say you would need it I just said it is there.
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Originally Posted by georgepa (Post 1420528)
I loaded Garmin XT on my Diamond, but hardly ever use it. The reason is that I am with Boost CDMA, which is an offshoot of Sprint, and can therefore use Sprint Navigation for free. The biggie there is that Sprint Navigation gives turn by turn WITH STREET NAME. Garmin does not. Sometimes turnoffs can be confusing because two roads veer to the right or left, so when the spoken instruction gives you the actual street name instead of just "turn right in 200 feet" that can be a time saver. Sprint Navigation is actually the Telenav application, rebranded as a Sprint app.

Not sure about some of the other solutions out there, but Telenav checks current traffic reports and reroutes if necessary (in the event of an accident blocking lanes, for example,) which has been helpful to me already a few times.

As for Google Maps, that is not really a turn-by-turn for our Diamonds, right? I don't see where that can compare. Now, AmazeGPS does compare, as it is a free turn-by-turn app, but I find it inferior to both Garmin XT and Sprint Navigation (Telenav.)

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Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 1420531)
how do u get sprint nav for free just cuz ur on boost mobile when if I am on sprint and want to use it its $10 a month?

Apparently Boost offers it for free and I think if you get an unlimited data plan you get Sprint nav. with it too.

orangekid 12-17-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MrObvious (Post 1420836)
Here we go.

I didn't say you would need it I just said it is there.



Apparently Boost offers it for free and I think if you get an unlimited data plan you get Sprint nav. with it too.


kinda funny to picture some dude sittin in his car goin "damn where am I? lets check out the GPS. holy salmon! I'm in a parking lot" would be a good sprint commercial.


how the crud does boost give a sprint app for free but sprint charges $10 a month for the same app? or did you mean they both offer it for free with a data package, because on the sprint site it doesnt say anything about data or no data, it says $10 a month.

KBZL 12-17-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 1420853)
kinda funny to picture some dude sittin in his car goin "damn where am I? lets check out the GPS. holy salmon! I'm in a parking lot" would be a good sprint commercial.


how the crud does boost give a sprint app for free but sprint charges $10 a month for the same app? or did you mean they both offer it for free with a data package, because on the sprint site it doesnt say anything about data or no data, it says $10 a month.

Yeah if you have unlimited data, its free. I didnt like it graphically though. It wasnt very pretty. Lol.

Damn, im stuck in my works parking lot, will one of you guys with Garmin help me get out, my stupid tomtom wont help me. :laughing6:

orangekid 12-17-2009 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kbussen (Post 1420863)
Yeah if you have unlimited data, its free. I didnt like it graphically though. It wasnt very pretty. Lol.

Damn, im stuck in my works parking lot, will one of you guys with Garmin help me get out, my stupid tomtom wont help me. :laughing6:

well im not forking $100 for a gps program, so its either amaze or sprint navigation because I want my GPS talking to me,

georgepa 12-17-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 1420853)
kinda funny to picture some dude sittin in his car goin "damn where am I? lets check out the GPS. holy salmon! I'm in a parking lot" would be a good sprint commercial.


how the crud does boost give a sprint app for free but sprint charges $10 a month for the same app? or did you mean they both offer it for free with a data package, because on the sprint site it doesnt say anything about data or no data, it says $10 a month.

When you install Sprint Navi for the first time it runs right off the bat (teaser?) The next time you run it, it asks for a purchase (either a month for $9.95 or a day for $2.95.) You sign up for the monthly and it goes through, except that Boost, being a pre-paid, has no way to add to the bill, so it is in fact a free app.

Plutonium0587 12-18-2009 09:27 AM

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Well I'm on Verizon used to be Alltel and my phone is Alltel so I cannot use any Verizon nav stuff... Point being, I have Garmin on my phone. I have a standalone Garmin in one car, but needed one for my car because I like the interface and usability. I still use Google Maps when I need to look up something quick, but when I'm on the road, the Garmin just works better for turn by turn and it does Google searches and stuff now too. Until Google gives WM a navigation like the Droid has (which may never happen), I like the Garmin. I can't really comment on how Garmin compares to others, but it just happened to be what I chose because my other GPS was Garmin and I really like it.

One thing I really like about it compared to Google Maps specifically is that if you the wrong way for some reason, it tells you and gets you back on track. GM just lets you wander until you can stop and figure out WTF you did lol. I do know that the WM Bing directions follow you and will ask you if you go off track and recalculate your route. You may want to try that as an alternative to GM. It doesn't announce but has kind of more turn by turn I think.

orangekid 12-18-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by georgepa (Post 1421650)
When you install Sprint Navi for the first time it runs right off the bat (teaser?) The next time you run it, it asks for a purchase (either a month for $9.95 or a day for $2.95.) You sign up for the monthly and it goes through, except that Boost, being a pre-paid, has no way to add to the bill, so it is in fact a free app.


well i just "chatted" with the rep online and she assured me sprint navigation was free if I have unlimited data, which I do. So the $10 a month seems to be a discount, because if I payed for data usage it would add up to more then $10 a month if I used gps a lot im sure


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