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chong67 04-22-2011 04:43 PM
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No, there are 2 things that I see that is different from TP2. They are captive screen and faster processor. My TP2 takes 7 sec to open up the camera. Almost 5+ sec to do anything. And the screen is non-responsive. Thats the difference!

eric12341 04-22-2011 05:37 PM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chong67 (Post 2089375)
No, there are 2 things that I see that is different from TP2. They are captive screen and faster processor. My TP2 takes 7 sec to open up the camera. Almost 5+ sec to do anything. And the screen is non-responsive. Thats the difference!
no there is more lets see....

1) capable of Ev Rev.B once sprint rolls it out (latest Qualcomm chips from the 7800 Series and up support it)

2) More Ram without over half of it being used up by the time I even get to do anything.

3) better graphics card and proper drivers to support it/ hardware acceleration

4)better camera that's easier to access and has flash and HD recording capability.

5) an overall better phone.

and my tp2 didn't really take 5+ seconds to do anything now that I think about it. u must be using the stock 6.5 rom

gjhuff 04-22-2011 10:32 PM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
It's MOTO that the Arrive is much superior on the hardware side. What's a great shame is that this improved hardware is saddled with a restricted OS that prevents customization, tethering and other features that made the Touch Pro 2 great for business use. The Arrive is a consumer phone, not for computer aficionados. The phone is not "smart" anymore unless you want to link it with your Xbox or listen to music purchased on Zune.

eric12341 04-22-2011 11:20 PM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gjhuff (Post 2089530)
It's MOTO that the Arrive is much superior on the hardware side. What's a great shame is that this improved hardware is saddled with a restricted OS that prevents customization, tethering and other features that made the Touch Pro 2 great for business use. The Arrive is a consumer phone, not for computer aficionados. The phone is not "smart" anymore unless you want to link it with your Xbox or listen to music purchased on Zune.
ok did making this post help u sleep at night or something? uve pretty much spammed every thread here with this same nonsense ,u already made ur point. if u have nothing more productive to say y don't u just back off?

not to sound rude or anything but seriously its getting old. so cut it out, vale?

darren.wlsn1 04-22-2011 11:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2089553)
ok did making this post help u sleep at night or something? uve pretty much spammed every thread here with this same nonsense ,u already made ur point. if u have nothing more productive to say y don't u just back off vale?
truth hurt? if its not true who cares. he is still on topic and your post is more spam than his.

eric12341 04-23-2011 12:06 AM
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I made an edit to it. it would've been posted on time if my Ev wasn't in turtle mode.

chong67 04-23-2011 12:30 AM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Yes, I am using the stock 6.5 rom on my TP2. Is that why its so slow? OK, TP2 is old already. I want waiting for 3D to come out.

InsomniacJedi 04-23-2011 02:02 AM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gjhuff (Post 2089530)
It's MOTO that the Arrive is much superior on the hardware side. What's a great shame is that this improved hardware is saddled with a restricted OS that prevents customization, tethering and other features that made the Touch Pro 2 great for business use. The Arrive is a consumer phone, not for computer aficionados. The phone is not "smart" anymore unless you want to link it with your Xbox or listen to music purchased on Zune.
I'd have to disagree with you implying that the Arrive is not a smart phone/business class device.

First off, it will sync with your outlook e-mail servers which many businesses use. It can also sync with just about any other e-mail client that a business might us.

Second, it has a full keyboard on it which is a hallmark of such "smart" and "business" devices.

Third, the calendar app can sync with your e-mail clients which is another big business feature.

Fourth, it comes with a full internet browser which has always been a defining feature of smart phones.

Fifth, it runs Microsoft Office which allows the creation of both One Notes and Word Documents. If that isn't a business perk I don't know what is. You can argue that's a "consumer" feature, but as a college student I use it more for editing documents on the go which is a great business perk. On top of that, the Arrive can also view PowerPoint presentations, though I admittedly haven't checked to see if I can edit one.

Sixth, your argument that since it cannot tether it is not a "smart" phone is simply incorrect. Most businesses are going to have internet either at their building or in the hotel they're setting their employees up in.

Seventh, I'd argue that the fact that it CAN use the Zune software (which includes the Marketplace, etc.) as well as the XBOXLive integration certainly make it a smart phone.

Finally, to argue that the Arrive is not a smart phone is simply absurd and ignorant. It does all the things a modern smart phone can do, the only problem you have with it appears that you cannot use it as a modem (or wireless hotspot) yet and that you can't "customize" it to your liking, though from what I've seen people's definition of "customizing" is hard to nail down and ultimately just boils down to "OMG I CAN'T MAKE MAH FAVORITE SONG MAH RINGTONE" which would mean it is less of a consumer device...hmmm...

eric12341 04-23-2011 02:49 AM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by InsomniacJedi (Post 2089626)
I'd have to disagree with you implying that the Arrive is not a smart phone/business class device.

First off, it will sync with your outlook e-mail servers which many businesses use. It can also sync with just about any other e-mail client that a business might us.

Second, it has a full keyboard on it which is a hallmark of such "smart" and "business" devices.

Third, the calendar app can sync with your e-mail clients which is another big business feature.

Fourth, it comes with a full internet browser which has always been a defining feature of smart phones.

Fifth, it runs Microsoft Office which allows the creation of both One Notes and Word Documents. If that isn't a business perk I don't know what is. You can argue that's a "consumer" feature, but as a college student I use it more for editing documents on the go which is a great business perk. On top of that, the Arrive can also view PowerPoint presentations, though I admittedly haven't checked to see if I can edit one.

Sixth, your argument that since it cannot tether it is not a "smart" phone is simply incorrect. Most businesses are going to have internet either at their building or in the hotel they're setting their employees up in.

Seventh, I'd argue that the fact that it CAN use the Zune software (which includes the Marketplace, etc.) as well as the XBOXLive integration certainly make it a smart phone.

Finally, to argue that the Arrive is not a smart phone is simply absurd and ignorant. It does all the things a modern smart phone can do, the only problem you have with it appears that you cannot use it as a modem (or wireless hotspot) yet and that you can't "customize" it to your liking, though from what I've seen people's definition of "customizing" is hard to nail down and ultimately just boils down to "OMG I CAN'T MAKE MAH FAVORITE SONG MAH RINGTONE" which would mean it is less of a consumer device...hmmm...
WOOOHOOOO RIGHT ON!! this has got to be one of the best posts I've seen.

gjhuff 04-24-2011 12:11 PM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by InsomniacJedi (Post 2089626)
I'd have to disagree with you implying that the Arrive is not a smart phone/business class device.

First off, it will sync with your outlook e-mail servers which many businesses use. It can also sync with just about any other e-mail client that a business might us.

Second, it has a full keyboard on it which is a hallmark of such "smart" and "business" devices.

Third, the calendar app can sync with your e-mail clients which is another big business feature.

Fourth, it comes with a full internet browser which has always been a defining feature of smart phones.

Fifth, it runs Microsoft Office which allows the creation of both One Notes and Word Documents. If that isn't a business perk I don't know what is. You can argue that's a "consumer" feature, but as a college student I use it more for editing documents on the go which is a great business perk. On top of that, the Arrive can also view PowerPoint presentations, though I admittedly haven't checked to see if I can edit one.

Sixth, your argument that since it cannot tether it is not a "smart" phone is simply incorrect. Most businesses are going to have internet either at their building or in the hotel they're setting their employees up in.

Seventh, I'd argue that the fact that it CAN use the Zune software (which includes the Marketplace, etc.) as well as the XBOXLive integration certainly make it a smart phone.

Finally, to argue that the Arrive is not a smart phone is simply absurd and ignorant. It does all the things a modern smart phone can do, the only problem you have with it appears that you cannot use it as a modem (or wireless hotspot) yet and that you can't "customize" it to your liking, though from what I've seen people's definition of "customizing" is hard to nail down and ultimately just boils down to "OMG I CAN'T MAKE MAH FAVORITE SONG MAH RINGTONE" which would mean it is less of a consumer device...hmmm...
You make some good points. I would concede that the Arrive is a "smart phone" in some respects and my language was hyperbole. The things you mention from 1 to 5, of course, are not advances from the TP2, just continuing features. But, in many respects, though, it is a "locked down" system similar to an Iphone. Items 6 and 7 detract from the phone, IMO.

Respectfully, if you're a college student, you might not appreciate tethering which has saved my rear in many a remote location. As a business user, I could care less about Zune and Xbox which just crap up the storage space or even customized ring tones for that matter. By customization, I mean things such as -

* installing software programs not just those sanctioned by Microsoft,
* non-data GPS programs,
* shell programs that fit my needs better than Microsoft's one-size fits all,
* drag and drop ability between PCs and the phone/

Other users have added to this list.

Finally, I will call you out on your comments about ignorance and absurdity. You don't know me or how much experience I have with smartphones. There are many users out there dissatisfied with Windows Phone 7 who are switching to Android or keeping their TP2.

scottGx 04-24-2011 01:49 PM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
I'm keeping my TP2 and will not get the HTC Arrive/7 Pro because:

1) TP2 has direct file/Outlook synchronization; HTC Arrive does not (must use cloud)
2) TP2 has tethering; HTC Arrive does not
3) TP2 is dual CDMA/GSM for international access; HTC Arrive is not
4) TP2 has a user-removeable SD card; HTC Arrive does not
5) TP2 has wireless router/hotspot capability; HTC Arrive does not
6) Must pay $10 extra per month for new smartphone and the HTC Arrive is not even 4G

... just stating my personal reasons. I'm sure these aren't applicable to everyone.

eric12341 04-24-2011 03:28 PM
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1) what's wrong with the cloud?
2 &5)its coming but may be at a price. what phone didn't have this capability out of the box without having to hunt for an exploit?
3) the upcoming HTC Mazaa will have this capability.
4) the amount of storage already given is plenty and there are cloud file storage apps if u want more.
6) who gives a fuck about 4G? 3G is more than fine for over 80% of things unless u want ur battery to drain faster be my guest.

I don't know how many times I've had to explain these points nor do I know how many more times I'll have to explain it. this thread should be closed since its just the same bullshit over and over.

eric12341 04-24-2011 03:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gjhuff (Post 2090201)
There are many users out there dissatisfied with Windows Phone 7 who are switching to Android or keeping their TP2.
and where are these users? in your head? last I read 93% of users are satisfied with wp7. u can goto any site and u will see very little bad reviews for these phones. the arrive is currently scoring better than the epic on the sprint site.

chong67 04-24-2011 04:33 PM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottGx (Post 2090233)
I'm keeping my TP2 and will not get the HTC Arrive/7 Pro because:

1) TP2 has direct file/Outlook synchronization; HTC Arrive does not (must use cloud)
2) TP2 has tethering; HTC Arrive does not
3) TP2 is dual CDMA/GSM for international access; HTC Arrive is not
4) TP2 has a user-removeable SD card; HTC Arrive does not
5) TP2 has wireless router/hotspot capability; HTC Arrive does not
6) Must pay $10 extra per month for new smartphone and the HTC Arrive is not even 4G

... just stating my personal reasons. I'm sure these aren't applicable to everyone.
I agree with everything you said.

I said before is that the only difference is that Arrive got captive screen and faster processor.

I would have got the Evo 4G by now, but I am going to wait for Evo 3D. I might come back to WP7 when Sprint have a front facing cam device for it.

livejazz 04-25-2011 01:17 PM
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As a road warrior, tethering is definately a plus for me. So instead of a data card, I use my old TP2 and keep it on the Bus Adv Talk 200 with a data plan and it ends up less than a data card with more freedom and sharing with the hot spot. I think the Arrive will catch up, but I definately am digging the smoothness and MULTIPLE Exchange accounts which I have been waiting for for a long time. I think it's creating a major negative atmosphere for us to be flaming each other for our opinions of these devices. I think different devices work better for different people with different needs. Can't we all just respect each other's opinion and leave it at that? I think if somebody is unaware of certain capabilities, it is nice to let them know differently and that would be the only reason to respond with other than a completely supportive response. Agreed? I am a mobile device industry professional and have used the entire line leading up to the Arrive, beginning with the PPC6600 and tethered HP iPaq's before that and I can't criticize anybody's favored mobile device as I have seen all different reasons for different form-factors and os'es over the years. My youngest daughter, now a junior in high school, traded her Palm for an iPaq when she was in 4th grade. My point is that there are just as many phone personalities as there are people personalities and to each his (or her) own. Just my 2 cents, folks.

matt

darren.wlsn1 04-25-2011 01:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2090270)
and w
here are these users? in your head? last I read 93% of users are satisfied with wp7. u can goto any site and u will see very little bad reviews for these phones. the arrive is currently scoring better than the epic on the sprint site.
Im one user not in his head, had wp and was not happy so i went to epic. scoreing better how? lol

eric12341 04-25-2011 02:43 PM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
go there and look at the reviews for urself. im not bullshittin

DavidinCT 04-26-2011 03:55 AM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by livejazz (Post 2090756)
As a road warrior, tethering is definately a plus for me. So instead of a data card, I use my old TP2 and keep it on the Bus Adv Talk 200 with a data plan and it ends up less than a data card with more freedom and sharing with the hot spot.
I agree, I travel with companies time to time and I've been away for the last 3 weeks now living in a hotel that charges $12.95 a day for internet access (when I only need it for about 25-45 min a day, as I don't have that much time in the room besides sleeping).

My TP2 with Wi-Fi tethering is a dream come true. I thought I would never really use it but, it is now something I could not live with out when traveling. I use it every day while in a hotel room and it works from a pretty good range (for a room).

Yea, the WP7 browser is better but, nothing beats a nice big screen and full size keyboard for web browsing and email.

I really don't want wired tethering if it can be avoided, plug in a phone, wait for windows to find and do drivers...could take a few min, wi-fi is up in a few seconds and on the internet in less than 5-7 seconds.

It would be that important that I would bring my TP2 and change ESN numbers when I travel....

I really hope this comes soon for WP7....also that I don't get charged from the carrier too....

osiris12 04-27-2011 02:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidinCT (Post 2091371)
I agree, I travel with companies time to time and I've been away for the last 3 weeks now living in a hotel that charges $12.95 a day for internet access (when I only need it for about 25-45 min a day, as I don't have that much time in the room besides sleeping).

My TP2 with Wi-Fi tethering is a dream come true. I thought I would never really use it but, it is now something I could not live with out when traveling. I use it every day while in a hotel room and it works from a pretty good range (for a room).

Yea, the WP7 browser is better but, nothing beats a nice big screen and full size keyboard for web browsing and email.

I really don't want wired tethering if it can be avoided, plug in a phone, wait for windows to find and do drivers...could take a few min, wi-fi is up in a few seconds and on the internet in less than 5-7 seconds.

It would be that important that I would bring my TP2 and change ESN numbers when I travel....

I really hope this comes soon for WP7....also that I don't get charged from the carrier too....
I made the change to WP7 and it has great potential. But I am too a little upset about losing my Hotspot that I had with my old TP2. For now I'm borrowing a hotspot device from work and it is quick and easy to setup. But I wish my new HTC Arrive had that built in feature or app so that I don't have to keep borrowing and carrying around that extra device.

DavidinCT 04-28-2011 06:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by osiris12 (Post 2092206)
I made the change to WP7 and it has great potential. But I am too a little upset about losing my Hotspot that I had with my old TP2. For now I'm borrowing a hotspot device from work and it is quick and easy to setup. But I wish my new HTC Arrive had that built in feature or app so that I don't have to keep borrowing and carrying around that extra device.
I'm sure it will come but, when and how much (carrier costs)... I just hope a 3d party hacks it in so no extra carrier charge, as I think $30 a month is enough for internet I only really use when I am away from home (I have PCs all over the house)

chong67 04-30-2011 01:00 AM
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I mean is anyone working on this hack at all?

livejazz 04-30-2011 07:51 AM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Probably would be easier to track the status of the unlock. The challenge is unlocking a device that came with the nodo update and I think the Arrive may be the only one, currently (maybe I missed one so please don't flame me trolls), that came stocked with the nodo update. I'm certain that once it is unlocked the tethering won't be too far behind. I did see someone ask if an unlock was even being worked on for the Arrive, though. Didn't see a response, yet.

matt

bling26 05-07-2011 06:01 PM
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Omg really, is this a forum for tethering on WP7 or a debate about the phones performance??? Who even started this debate? :รพ

Gee 05-12-2011 12:00 PM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chong67 (Post 2075447)
So you all cant thether. How do you all get by? Go to McD?

I was thether to my laptop and in my car for hours on my TP2. Its still going n going.
This is the main reason I refuse to leave my TP2. Arrive doesnt cut it for me. Cant wait for TP3... :-)~

three west 05-12-2011 05:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gee (Post 2100516)
Cant wait for TP3... :-)~
umm, hate to break it to you...its here, its called the 7 Pro/Arrive....

gjhuff 05-12-2011 08:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by three west (Post 2100694)
umm, hate to break it to you...its here, its all the 7 Pro/Arrive....
No....it can't be.....all the Arrive fans here say the Arrive is NOT an upgrade to the TP2 - a completely different phone with a completely different OS. <g> And whatever features the Arrive doesn't have the TP2 does are "not a big deal." We are truly stupid or ignorant for not appreciating the wonders of this magnificent new phone.

rrjskj 05-12-2011 10:11 PM
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where is this all coming from ????

eric12341 05-13-2011 02:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rrjskj (Post 2100799)
where is this all coming from ????
I swear im just a few steps away from ignoring that payaso. he needs to read this first tho

Analyst: WP7 to beat Android by 2013, not 2015 | wpcentral | Windows Phone News, Forums, and Reviews

steveo70 05-13-2011 02:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gjhuff (Post 2100757)
No....it can't be.....all the Arrive fans here say the Arrive is NOT an upgrade to the TP2 - a completely different phone with a completely different OS. <g> And whatever features the Arrive doesn't have the TP2 does are "not a big deal." We are truly stupid or ignorant for not appreciating the wonders of this magnificent new phone.
Not me. Depends on what you feel is an upgrade. It is a total upgrade to me. I LOVE my Arrive. It is a different OS on a similar phone. (I think of it as my old girlfriend with a new attitude). No you can't customize like the TP2 and some features are missing, but coming soon plus more. The overall stability, function,battery life, and speed of the day to day things I use are night and day. Most people seem to complain about Office/business issues that I personally do not use and syncing issues. It's really about the user and needs. I don't even mind the 10$ BS fee because the phone JUST works. I still have and use my TP2 everyday as a work and WIFI device. It was hard but a no brain decision for me to support 7 even in it's infancy so it can grow because the wife has a EVO and Android just isn't me despite the customizing aspect I want.

three west 05-13-2011 07:09 AM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
yeah, I might try one if it comes to big red (no Sprint here). Tethering probably isn't a dealbreaker for me, but it is a consideration. How well it sync's with exchange and how easily I can toggle those options will be a big factor for me.

info[]box1 05-16-2011 08:34 AM
Wirelessly posted (Htc Arrive: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.3.4; en-us; Nexus S 4G Build/GRJ22) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1)

Well wifi tethering is on the Mango changelog.

eric12341 05-16-2011 02:12 PM
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and aside from that the jailbreak nodo project has begun. so it'll be down to what's first. what's interesting is WM didn't really have HSPLs or security removal hacks till WM5.

roachslayer 05-18-2011 01:42 AM
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My HTC Arrive is unlocked. I can tell you that the USB modem trick that works on other HTC Windows Phones does NOT work on this with Sprint. The router app and drivers are doing as they are supposed to, but Sprints server does not pick up the connection request.

Quote:
Originally Posted by info[]box1 (Post 2101840)
Well wifi tethering is on the Mango changelog.
Unfortunately, it doesnt matter what changes Microsoft makes, if they enable tether - the decision ultimately lies with the carrier, and as you can see above, the issue is with Sprint, not MS. grrrrr!

When will carriers get this?: we DONT want multiple devices (data cards) to do the same job as a single device that is already fully technically capable. And we are ALREADY paying for unlimited data. Get off your high horse, you fat money hogs, I am sick of this lock out. And I am disg.usted about charging more for less.

I miss my TP2, but only for tether. The Arrive is far superior in every other way.

I see a world one day where data cards are ditched like the 8-track as they should be, and we simply have our phones, with wifi tether, and that is defacto.

There are some very lame "you dont need tether" posts on this thread, btw. That needs to stop. Quit telling others what they need or not, when you have no clue. Not every area under the sun has wifi, but 95% + does have cellular - so yes, tether is needed, and stop chanting about how its no big deal. Its not about surfing the stupid web (that can indeed be done on the phone itself). What about connecting into VPN from my PC and getting files and documents from work? Can I do that without wifi or tether, or from the phone itself? No. Or how about staying at a hotel where the bandwidth is slower than 1998 dial up? Is it ok not to have tethering then? No. Or how about using ANY desktop app that connects to web services (which is dang near ALL of them now days) and wifi not availble? No, no, no! Tethering is aboslutely needed. Argument over.

btw, the only thing I loathe worse than tether block and forced data card crap is the SMS texting charges for those without unlimited plans. Charge you $0.25 for something that costs carriers $0.000001 to send on their network. Awesome. Would you pay per email? What if Comcast, Verizon, AOL or other ISP's start sniffing your internet use and charge per email? Or charge you just to have a netgear router in the house to share your connection for home devices (which they tried and failed years ago, thankfully)? Insane. That is NOT ok, yet we let these cellular companies walk all over us with exactly that same type of pattern. The only reason they get away with this crap is that people are so clueless about it, and just pay their bills and dont care. Need more people to wake the heck up and make noise.

Dont get me started on cable companies... charing per month per box per TV.... absolutey ridiculous. Again, what if your ISP charged you per computer? You'd be pissed. But if you dont mind about per TV, you are in idiot. What is wrong with people?

</rant>

I still love my Windows Phone 7. I just hate all carriers and their ridiculous schemes.

Tether is a must :protest:

darren.wlsn1 05-18-2011 01:46 AM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by roachslayer (Post 2102626)
My HTC Arrive is unlocked. I can tell you that the USB modem trick that works on other HTC Windows Phones does NOT work on this with Sprint. The router app and drivers are doing as they are supposed to, but Sprints server does not pick up the connection request.



Unfortunately, it doesnt matter what changes Microsoft makes, if they enable tether - the decision ultimately lies with the carrier, and as you can see above, the issue is with Sprint, not MS. grrrrr!

When will carriers get this?: we DONT want multiple devices (data cards) to do the same job as a single device that is already fully technically capable. And we are ALREADY paying for unlimited data. Get off your high horse, you fat money hogs, I am sick of this lock out. And I am disg.usted about charging more for less.

I miss my TP2, but only for tether. The Arrive is far superior in every other way.

I see a world one day where data cards are ditched like the 8-track as they should be, and we simply have our phones, with wifi tether, and that is defacto.

There are some very lame "you dont need tether" posts on this thread, btw. That needs to stop. Quit telling others what they need or not, when you have no clue. Not every area under the sun has wifi, but 95% + does have cellular - so yes, tether is needed, and stop chanting about how its no big deal. Its not about surfing the stupid web (that can indeed be done on the phone itself). What about connecting into VPN from my PC and getting files and documents from work? Can I do that without wifi or tether, or from the phone itself? No. Or how about staying at a hotel where the bandwidth is slower than 1998 dial up? Is it ok not to have tethering then? No. Or how about using ANY desktop app that connects to web services (which is dang near ALL of them now days) and wifi not availble? No, no, no! Tethering is aboslutely needed. Argument over.

btw, the only thing I loathe worse than tether block and forced data card crap is the SMS texting charges for those without unlimited plans. Charge you $0.25 for something that costs carriers $0.000001 to send on their network. Awesome. Would you pay per email? What if Comcast, Verizon, AOL or other ISP's start sniffing your internet use and charge per email? Or charge you just to have a netgear router in the house to share your connection for home devices (which they tried and failed years ago, thankfully)? Insane. That is NOT ok, yet we let these cellular companies walk all over us with exactly that same type of pattern. The only reason they get away with this crap is that people are so clueless about it, and just pay their bills and dont care. Need more people to wake the heck up and make noise.

Dont get me started on cable companies... charing per month per box per TV.... absolutey ridiculous. Again, what if your ISP charged you per computer? You'd be pissed. But if you dont mind about per TV, you are in idiot. What is wrong with people?

</rant>

I still love my Windows Phone 7. I just hate all carriers and their ridiculous schemes.

Tether is a must :protest:
great first post, eric should love this one.

steveo70 05-18-2011 04:33 AM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
I agree. Don't get me wrong, it's nice to finally have an unlimited plan where my bill is FINALLY my bill w/out extra charges but it feels like settleing. It does suck to not to have more tailored options. Between 2 phones on my plan and 1500 mins we use approx 100 of those mins actual talk time. Most is text or data. Really wouldn't even need the data (most everywhere we are has wifi) except for those impulse moments on the go where premium data is a convenience factor. I guess it's hard to complain though because I often gripe about sporting event prices and the people that support them. I am guilty of mobile enabling.

livejazz 05-18-2011 07:54 AM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Wow! Gee, trolls unite! Well, Sprint is already allowing tethering, both legally and illegally. They just need for it to be built in to the OS.

Matt

roachslayer 05-18-2011 10:57 AM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Just because someone expresses frustration does not imply troll. I have shared factual information that is helpful, despite being a rant. Does anyone challenge the facts? I've stated what I need, and would be happy to have a meaningful discussion at this point, minus the rant. :)

Btw, I didn't not say sprint doesn't allow tether at large, but true for most devices and accounts, generally true unless you have a hack (which my point was, should not be necessary), and certainly true in the case of the HTC Arrive. If anyone has facts to share to prove otherwise, I welcome it.

bling26 05-18-2011 11:59 AM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by roachslayer (Post 2102626)
My HTC Arrive is unlocked. I can tell you that the USB modem trick that works on other HTC Windows Phones does NOT work on this with Sprint. The router app and drivers are doing as they are supposed to, but Sprints server does not pick up the connection request.



Unfortunately, it doesnt matter what changes Microsoft makes, if they enable tether - the decision ultimately lies with the carrier, and as you can see above, the issue is with Sprint, not MS. grrrrr!

When will carriers get this?: we DONT want multiple devices (data cards) to do the same job as a single device that is already fully technically capable. And we are ALREADY paying for unlimited data. Get off your high horse, you fat money hogs, I am sick of this lock out. And I am disg.usted about charging more for less.

I miss my TP2, but only for tether. The Arrive is far superior in every other way.

I see a world one day where data cards are ditched like the 8-track as they should be, and we simply have our phones, with wifi tether, and that is defacto.

There are some very lame "you dont need tether" posts on this thread, btw. That needs to stop. Quit telling others what they need or not, when you have no clue. Not every area under the sun has wifi, but 95% + does have cellular - so yes, tether is needed, and stop chanting about how its no big deal. Its not about surfing the stupid web (that can indeed be done on the phone itself). What about connecting into VPN from my PC and getting files and documents from work? Can I do that without wifi or tether, or from the phone itself? No. Or how about staying at a hotel where the bandwidth is slower than 1998 dial up? Is it ok not to have tethering then? No. Or how about using ANY desktop app that connects to web services (which is dang near ALL of them now days) and wifi not availble? No, no, no! Tethering is aboslutely needed. Argument over.

btw, the only thing I loathe worse than tether block and forced data card crap is the SMS texting charges for those without unlimited plans. Charge you $0.25 for something that costs carriers $0.000001 to send on their network. Awesome. Would you pay per email? What if Comcast, Verizon, AOL or other ISP's start sniffing your internet use and charge per email? Or charge you just to have a netgear router in the house to share your connection for home devices (which they tried and failed years ago, thankfully)? Insane. That is NOT ok, yet we let these cellular companies walk all over us with exactly that same type of pattern. The only reason they get away with this crap is that people are so clueless about it, and just pay their bills and dont care. Need more people to wake the heck up and make noise.

Dont get me started on cable companies... charing per month per box per TV.... absolutey ridiculous. Again, what if your ISP charged you per computer? You'd be pissed. But if you dont mind about per TV, you are in idiot. What is wrong with people?

</rant>

I still love my Windows Phone 7. I just hate all carriers and their ridiculous schemes.

Tether is a must :protest:
I agree with this, I am still using my TP2, in fact I am tethering right now to type this :) I really want to step up to the arrive and the only real reasons is I do like windows mobile better than others and the speed of the phone because lets face it, the processor in the TP2 was just a bad choice from the get go. I have heard that Sprint has been cracking down on people tethering excessively so this all may be related. They have done this before and nothing big really came of it... and I have yet to ever receive a notice from them so I keep on keepin on.

eric12341 05-18-2011 06:27 PM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by darren.wlsn1 (Post 2102629)
great first post, eric should love this one.
it was a good post. he was blaming carriers for this rather than MS like the others were doing. there is a crackdown on tethering by carriers tho. I know at&t and VZ are doing this don't know about sprint or tmobile tho.

kgnupe2 05-24-2011 08:43 PM
Re: Tethering on the Arrive?
 
I thank everyone here for their posts, I was about to get a free arrive from sprint if i agreed to the 10 add on to my bill ( long story if you want to hear it Ill post) but after reading the limits of the device ill just wait on my 13th tp2 it might break easy and it might be slow but it does everything i need it to do. But the arrive is a good device just a limited os in my view, so much potential though. thanks again


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