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weedahoe 09-03-2007 09:12 AM

upgrade bootloader?
 
im all about stayign up to date. But I know on my main phone I use, it has BL 1.00 and I was wondering if this is an upgradable thing? Or is it a firmware to hardware type isue that merely is dependant on what phone you have and was made a what time? If it is upgradable, what are the pros/cons? THX

luv2chill 09-03-2007 11:00 AM

Actually you gain 3MB of storage but lose 3MB off the CE ROM partition.

Trust me, been there, done that. You don't want the new bootloader. I spent days and days pulling my hair out trying to get rid of it.

jimmiekain 09-03-2007 11:12 AM

Hey maybe someone can help... I have been trying to get my phone to go into "bootloader mode" so I can load the new radio version onto my phone because my signal reception sucks... but i cant get my phone to go into "bootloader" mode. Acordding to phonex im supposed to push the record button power button and push the little button with my stylus at the same time but that just restarts my phone. I have a Sprint Mogul / PPC 6800! Can someone please tell me how to put my phone in "bootloader" mode or tell me how to update my radio so i can have better reception?

luv2chill 09-03-2007 12:13 PM

Those are the correct buttons but you should hold down the power and record buttons first, and once you make sure you've got them both firmly pressed then you put the stylus in the reset hole.

Edit: Whoops. You can't load an Apache ROM on a mogul and it uses a different button sequence for bootloader anyway. Sorry for the confusion.

colonel 09-03-2007 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmiekain (Post 81847)
Hey maybe someone can help... I have been trying to get my phone to go into "bootloader mode" so I can load the new radio version onto my phone because my signal reception sucks... but i cant get my phone to go into "bootloader" mode. Acordding to phonex im supposed to push the record button power button and push the little button with my stylus at the same time but that just restarts my phone. I have a Sprint Mogul / PPC 6800! Can someone please tell me how to put my phone in "bootloader" mode or tell me how to update my radio so i can have better reception?

You have a mogul right? The bootloader process is different. However, I am more concerned about which radio you are thinking you should upgrade to. There is an official upgrade for the mogul. Other than that, there isnt anything you can/should flash to the mogul.

msisaac 09-05-2007 09:19 AM

Upgrade the bootloader?
 
Is it possible to upgrade the bootloader itself? My Apache has 1.02, and judging from the kitchens, newer versions of the booloader program exist.

It's not a big deal. My bootloader works just fine. This is more a general inquiry.

Thanks!

luv2chill 09-05-2007 10:33 AM

Merging with previous thread. Please search first before posting a new thread.

Thanks.

msisaac 09-05-2007 12:22 PM

luv2chill -

I swear I did search before I posted. I searched both here and at xda. I didn't see any threads dealing with my question. Sorry to duplicate someone else's question.

But back to the question, you mentioned that you had the new bootloader on your device. So it is possible to upgrade it? Other than the 3 MB of storage, are there other pros/cons? Is there a detailed process somewhere for upgrading the bootloader?

Sorry again for duplicating threads...

luv2chill 09-05-2007 02:33 PM

Yes it is very simple to upgrade the bootloader--too simple in fact. The point is that you don't want to upgrade it. It will prevent many ROMs from working on your device. There are no advantages whatsoever to upgrading it and trying to revert it back to the old version is extremely complex.

I know that runs contrary to the "newer=better" mantra about tech, but in this particular case you really don't want the new bootloader.

bilson 09-08-2007 01:41 AM

My bootloader will not load as well. I have an Apache 6700 (Sprint) with ROM V2.06, Radio V1.27. I have been trying for some 6 hours reading, searching and reading some more. All I can get is a dark screen with USB on top and v1.00 on the bottom. These are barely visible with the dark screen. That is with the USB cable plugged in. If I remove it I get Serial v1.00. I have looked every where for the Bootloader version but can't find it. I have NOT installed a different Bootloader. Anyone? I am pushing the Recorder and Power buttons firmly and reset while continuing to hold the Power and Recorder buttons.

luv2chill 09-08-2007 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilson (Post 84374)
My bootloader will not load as well. I have an Apache 6700 (Sprint) with ROM V2.06, Radio V1.27. I have been trying for some 6 hours reading, searching and reading some more. All I can get is a dark screen with USB on top and v1.00 on the bottom. These are barely visible with the dark screen. That is with the USB cable plugged in. If I remove it I get Serial v1.00. I have looked every where for the Bootloader version but can't find it. I have NOT installed a different Bootloader. Anyone? I am pushing the Recorder and Power buttons firmly and reset while continuing to hold the Power and Recorder buttons.

That dark screen is the bootloader. The v1.00 is the version number. You are fine--that's the old bootloader which works just fine.

bilson 09-08-2007 11:13 AM

OK now that I feel almost idiotic following the Quick How to:
1. Put your device in bootloader mode (RECORD+POWER+RESET) and click APAC_WM6_R0_[Ur Operator name].EXE then click install wait till it finish.

Their is nothing to click on. I have the so.rar (which I renamed wm6.rar) stored in the root dir on the storage card. Post after post everyone raves about helmi's great job but nobody appears to be having the problem I've encountered. (not criticizing, just feeling very inapt at the moment) I have search for more in depth instructions to no avail. While I'm admitting my ignorance I would like to have [Ur Operator name] clarified.

kwyatt 09-08-2007 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilson (Post 84461)
OK now that I feel almost idiotic following the Quick How to:
1. Put your device in bootloader mode (RECORD+POWER+RESET) and click APAC_WM6_R0_[Ur Operator name].EXE then click install wait till it finish.

Their is nothing to click on. I have the so.rar (which I renamed wm6.rar) stored in the root dir on the storage card. Post after post everyone raves about helmi's great job but nobody appears to be having the problem I've encountered. (not criticizing, just feeling very inapt at the moment) I have search for more in depth instructions to no avail. While I'm admitting my ignorance I would like to have [Ur Operator name] clarified.


bislon, you have to put the phone in bootloader. extract the rar on your computer using winrar (www.rarlabs.com) and click on the exe file named APAC_WM6_R0_"ur carrier name" the your carrier name part refers to the cellphone company you bought your phone from.

bilson 09-08-2007 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwyatt (Post 84475)
bislon, you have to put the phone in bootloader. extract the rar on your computer using winrar (www.rarlabs.com) and click on the exe file named APAC_WM6_R0_"ur carrier name" the your carrier name part refers to the cellphone company you bought your phone from.


Thanks for the help. I've not used RAR files on the computer before. I just wasn't thinking that I had to extract the file. My Mad Cow must have acted up again. All is good and I have almost a new phone thanks to Lord Helmi and your help.

wpaulson 09-09-2007 04:09 PM

Where is the install option?
All I can get is a dark screen with USB on top and v2.02 on the bottom. These are barely visible with the dark screen. That is with the USB cable plugged in. If I remove it I get Serial v2.02. I have the .rar opened and saved on my phone card so the .exe is ready to go. How do I start the .exe from the USB screen? Thanks

TMB_XV6700 09-10-2007 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wpaulson (Post 84937)
Where is the install option?
All I can get is a dark screen with USB on top and v2.02 on the bottom. These are barely visible with the dark screen. That is with the USB cable plugged in. If I remove it I get Serial v2.02. I have the .rar opened and saved on my phone card so the .exe is ready to go. How do I start the .exe from the USB screen? Thanks

You run the exe from the PC, not the device.

The Almighty 09-10-2007 01:51 PM

I can't get my phone to hook up properly to my PC when it bootloader mode. The screen remains on Serial instead of saying USB and the PC pops up a message saying unrecognized USB device.

Any ideas?

guardian1969 10-30-2007 01:14 AM

Bootloader Change
 
Ok so I ended up using the new ROM from the UTStarcom.com site for my xv6700 and now my bootloader version says it is 1.04 and I can not seem to load any other ROM now. Any way to upgrade or downgrade my bootloader version so I can once again load ROM's since I would love to get back to the new WM6 ROM I was running before I made the mistake of updating with the offical ROM to update my Radio and stuff. Any help would be great thanks. ](*,)

5achin 10-30-2007 08:27 AM

yes i have the same prob as guardian, how do i revert back to the older bootloader?

weedahoe 10-30-2007 11:54 AM

Maybe Luv2Chill (or another member) can shed some light on the issue. I dont have this issue but I would still like to learn how incase I do ever get a new phone and it it already upgraded.

TMB_XV6700 10-30-2007 01:31 PM

naigaman/naigaboy has updated his first post on the sticky to include the reverting procedure and to outline some other things related to bootloader and what upgrade utilities are compatible with which bootloaders.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=7820
Very good stuff!


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