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cspannos 08-26-2007 11:33 PM

Highest capacity miniSD card for Apache?
 
Are there any 6gb or 8gb miniSD cards out there, or even bigger? I found this http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Prod...o.aspx?ID=2447, but it's a microSDHC. I'm sure there's an adapter for microSD to miniSD, but I wasn't sure if the Apache is SDHC compatible...

Any info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated :)

unitypunk 08-26-2007 11:42 PM

apache is NOT compatible with SDHC cards.

there is almost no way to get it to work.. but i have heard storys

the largest card that works out of the package is a 2 gig mini sd

in theroy you could use the micro 2 gig. but whats the point?


lol

saqer 08-27-2007 12:11 AM

i've heard of people buying unofficial 4 gig minisd and partitioning/formatting them in ways to allow for use on the 6700, but several complained of missing sectors, speed issues amongst other things. Isn't it theoretically possible for a firmware update that allows the 6700 to use sdhc cards?

nemanracing 08-27-2007 12:15 AM

Firmware update possible yes... If it is officially released or not, who knows? There was a group trying to pull SDHC from the Treo 750 WM6 update to work on the 700W/WX, but it seems the drivers are tied to the processor type if I remember right...

KidGixxer 08-27-2007 12:42 AM

Re: Highest capacity miniSD card for Apache?
 
I have been running a 4gig card in my phone since April, and have not had any problems. I didn't partition it either.

unitypunk 08-27-2007 01:51 AM

hmm i remeber reading somwhere that you had to trick the ppc into thinking it had 2 cards instead of one to get full 4 gigs

KidGixxer 08-27-2007 02:09 AM

Maybe with the stock carrier roms. I have been using custom roms since i got the phone. Maybe thats why i havent had that problem.

unitypunk 08-27-2007 03:09 AM

definatly could be it..

lol

but what do i know?

:)

Karmashock 08-27-2007 05:43 AM

4GB cards work. You do need to partition them into two 2GB partitions.


I have noticed a speed hit after doing this... it's about half the speed it used to be for "writing"... you only notice when you're copying things from the PC.





As to it working with SDHC, I haven't tried that. If anyone knows how to make that work, i'd really appreciate it. I don't mind if I have to partition it into 10 drives or whatever so long as I can put all my data on it.


Is the mogul SDHC compatible?

PolloLoco 08-27-2007 07:18 AM

You do NOT have to trick the 6700 into thinking there are 2 cards to get a 4gb mini-sd to work. I've tried both ways. However, both are unstable if you read/write a lot to them consistently. When I just had 1 4gb partition - I had to reformat and reload everything about once a month. So . . . I thought I'd gain stability by formatting the card to two 2 gb partitions. Less than 2 weeks later, I'm already seeing one file get corrupted in an emulator program I use. It sets the games' configuration so it's constantly getting written to.

So. . . I'm going to go back to a 4gb partition. I have more RAM available and a faster transfer speed.

Overall - I wouldn't recommend a 4gb mini-SD if you plan to write/rewrite regularly. If you're just going to be constantly reading from it - (IE - music, movies) then it'll probably work great indefinitely.

Also - the generic no-names you see everywhere got corrupted as soon as I went over 2gb. Fortunately, the vendor allowed me to return it. I then got a TOPRAM card which at least allows me to reformat and start over regularly.

cspannos 08-27-2007 08:01 AM

Thanks everyone.... I guess I'll stick with my Sandsik 2GB miniSD and avoid all the headaches...

avatar1961 08-27-2007 03:53 PM

I've been using a "no-name" 4 gb card since March. You don't have to partition it, but you DO have to format it as FAT32.

I currently have 3.8 gig on it and I've really not had any issues at all with the card. I shuffle music on and off of it every few weeks and no problems.

I can't get my bluetooth stereo headset to work without the music "stuttering" though and since I have a new custom ROM I don't think it's the old a2d2 problem. Probably my headset (cheap), but I've always wondered if perhaps it is because the card is slow. Don't know.

Anyway, good luck.

TambourineMan 08-27-2007 06:29 PM

I have been using a TopRam 4Gb miniSD card for almost three months without any problems (although only about 1.7 GB is used). I have never gone over 2GB so I don't know wht, if anything would happen if I did.

Karmashock 08-27-2007 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avatar1961
I've been using a "no-name" 4 gb card since March. You don't have to partition it, but you DO have to format it as FAT32.

I currently have 3.8 gig on it and I've really not had any issues at all with the card. I shuffle music on and off of it every few weeks and no problems.

I can't get my bluetooth stereo headset to work without the music "stuttering" though and since I have a new custom ROM I don't think it's the old a2d2 problem. Probably my headset (cheap), but I've always wondered if perhaps it is because the card is slow. Don't know.

Anyway, good luck.

weird... I have to format mine in Fat16 or it won't be recognized at all by the 6700. I can format it in anything I like and teh computer will see it though... kind of annoying really... who wants to use fat16 :(... even fat32 is damn old.

VreebieZ 08-28-2007 11:08 PM

4GB Topram in FAT32 and FAT16 works w/ PPC6700.

The problem is, there are some software that dont realize miniSD larger than 2Gigs exist; hence, causing some errors. One example is the HTC camera, it shows that there are no space left on the card, eventhough it's still 3.5Gigs Free :D. But if a dummy files is used to make it < 2gb, it works fine. That's why some user suggest it to partition it to 2Gigs; mainly for compatibility with some softwares.

But that was my experience since > 6months ago. Maybe all those problematic softwares got smarter after the ROM/version update 8) .

badfrog 09-14-2007 03:56 PM

anyone running helmi's WM6 ROM on their 6700 have any feedback on the 4g MiniSD cards?

Also, is read/write speed a major issue other than when transferring to/fromt he desktop?

I have a SanDisk 1g in my 6700 now that I got from either newegg or tigerdirect, can't remember.. and have decided I need more storage if I want to install something like tomtom navigator and its maps.. I

clevertrevor777 05-01-2008 03:25 PM

Re: Highest capacity miniSD card for Apache?
 
I'm pretty new to the Apache; I've only had it for a couple days, but with all the research I've done and threads that I've read i was under the impression that there should be no problems with any size miniSD or miniSDHC card out there... Have you guys updated your Apache's to WM6.1? I guess this thread is a few months old, but the Kitchen has an option for SDHC compatibility... Try that! My only concern is the compatibility of microSD to miniSD adapters + HC + 8GB? or maybe even 16GB? I think microSD has a larger card than miniSD? Anyone know about that?

PPCFreak 05-02-2008 09:45 PM

Re: Highest capacity miniSD card for Apache?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clevertrevor777 (Post 268381)
I'm pretty new to the Apache; I've only had it for a couple days, but with all the research I've done and threads that I've read i was under the impression that there should be no problems with any size miniSD or miniSDHC card out there... Have you guys updated your Apache's to WM6.1? I guess this thread is a few months old, but the Kitchen has an option for SDHC compatibility... Try that! My only concern is the compatibility of microSD to miniSD adapters + HC + 8GB? or maybe even 16GB? I think microSD has a larger card than miniSD? Anyone know about that?

I am running a Topram 8gig MicroSD SDHC with a micro to mini adapter. Works great.
Only issue is with the camera. Unless you have less than 2gig free on the card, you can not write to the card directly from the camera app (you can choose Storage Card as your source to save the pictures you take with the camera but it won't save them there).
I run TomTom from the main memory with the Entire USA Maps on the Storage Card (about 2.5gig worth of map data). I use TomTom about 3 or 4 times a week. Works perfectly.

weedahoe 05-03-2008 01:38 PM

Re: Highest capacity miniSD card for Apache?
 
Yeah, over at XDA there are threads of ppl using the SDHC drivers and running 8 and 16gb cards so I am sure it cant be done. I just have no need for that type of storage space.

glitchbit 05-03-2008 02:22 PM

Re: Highest capacity miniSD card for Apache?
 
SDHC is not cheap enough for me yet, but concerning stuttering I find that if I connect my headset then turn it off and close out of my music program if it is running the turning my headset back on then going to my music program of choice that the stuttering stops.

Sometimes it will stutter if the headset battery is low.

jimnutt 05-05-2008 09:53 AM

Re: Highest capacity miniSD card for Apache?
 
I'm running an Sandisk 8gb micro SDHC card in a mini SD adapter and it works perfectly. Of course, I'm also running WM 6.1 (helmi_c's version, see the Upgrades forum). The camera has a overflow issue that won't let it work unless you have less than 2Gb free on the card (I think that between 4 and 6 gb free would also work, but haven't tested it).


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