Palm Threaded MMS (Pix/Flix) Works with Helmi's AKU 3.5 rom.
 

Upgrade to Helmi's new AKU 3.5 core rom. Install the palm threaded app, and it will now work. The difference I've found to be in the registry, with the addition of a new "PalmOne" key with an MMSStack sub key, and values that tell the phone how to send MMS.
On previous ROMS, when I would try to send a picture message, regardless of the settings, the program would close down. Now, it completes, but gives me the error message "Originator Address Not Found." I had this with Arcsoft's app as well, it is a result of the MDN not being set in the header. For Arcsoft, I had to input X-VzW-MDN in to a the key MMUA under Arcsoft's keyi n software. However, I have no idea where this program picks up the MDN to put in the header of it's messages. Help, someone? Perhaps someone with the program natively on their Treo can do a registry search for MDN, and see what value Palm's app looks for it under? That would be fantastic.

I don't use Helmi's Rom. But, can you post the new reg key(s) & other new additions you've found that allow you to send mms via the Palm app?

Thanks in advanced!

yeah i would also like to know and if it would possible to get it working on my mogul.

Here is the extra key. It goes in HKLM/Software. Mine shows up right under the original palm key. Put this in, and try to send an mms. Make sure your settings are configured properly.

That zip file is corrupt

Beat me to it Studly. It's a .rar

Still doesn't work for Sprint... get the same old Version cannot be supported message that we get with the newer Arcsoft MMS.

I take it that these apps are sending version info about themselves to Sprint's MMS server and the server is rejecting the MMS because it is not getting version information it likes.

Is this informtation that it is sending in the reg somewhere, or is it hard coded into the app. If hard coded I wonder if it could be changed via hex edit?

It doesn't work for Verizon either. Getting same message as Luv2chill . . .

Man, I would just like to receive pix and videos and sounds physically to my phone. I hate the fact that the pix i receive are TINY....wish there was a fix for this (without using opera & mortscript)

i'm getting the same erorr at luv2chill it uploads the media fine just can seem to verify the version

Version cannot be supported error here :shock:

Yeah, sorry about that, I made it a rar, assuming I could upload that, and when it denied my file extension, I just renamed it zip, praying people used winrar and just wouldn't notice. Anyway, with verizon, the error we get is "bla bla bla Originator Address Not Found." I had this with arcsoft, and I fixed it by creating the string value "X-VzW-MDN" it's value being my 10 digit number, under WspHeader in the registry. Now, the problem with Palm, is that I don't know where the header information is. I assume this sprint error you're getting is similar to the verizon one, can you receive picture messages right now, with this app? They work for me.

This is from the "VERIZON MMS STEPS- DETAILED" Thread: http://www.ppcgeeks.com/verizon-mms-...t,xvzwmdn.html . . . I already have this info in my registry but it still doesn't work.

"You then need to modify your registry to the following!

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Arcsoft\ArcSoft MMS UA\Config\mm1\WspHeader]

You first need to make a STRING in this folder...

THe name of ths string is X-VzW-MDN
The value of the string is your 10 digit phone number

Should look like this:

"X-VzW-MDN"="your 10 digit phone number" e.g. 1234567890<--------- make sure you add this to the folder or this wont work!!!!!!!

Then find the following strings and change their values to the following:

"User-Agent"="utstar67kv1"

"Accept"="application/vnd.wap.multipart.related"

"Accept-Language"="en"

Exactly, the MDN was what needed to be created in Arcsoft to fix the outgoing message error. However, I do not know what the equivalent of this in the Palm messaging app is, that is my quest, is to discover this.

I see . . .

Does receiving work for all of you getting send errors? First off, is everyone sure they have their settings right? No message center number, email center number, or mms gateway address, they should all be blank. MMS URL is http://mms.vtext.com/servlets/mms for verizon, or http://mms.sprintpcs.com/servlets/mms I think, for sprint. Also, go in to the registry, HKLM/Software/Palm/Varnish/Messaging, and make sure the value for mmsc is the same as the gateway, I found that when I changed mine in the settings in the program, this did not change.

Anyway, this is the error I get.

Message could not be sent. An unspecified error(0x84) occurred while sending the message. Originator Address Not Found. That's the error I get when I try to send MMS.

Receiving works fine.

samw here with vzw.
 

I am duplicating what you see. same error. I have tryed a various of the mms url and it didnt help. I can get it to upload 100% photo or video. but get same message as you in the end.

I think there has got to be a string or dll that accesses the mdn as you mentioned.

keep plugging away...we will get it eventually.

MMSUAProf is set for treo 750 and MMSUA is also set for 750.... could this have something to do with it?

Arcsoft has no UAPRof, only a UA, which is set to utstar67kv1. As far as I know, there is no UAProf for the 6700.

I looked at the files in the Palm Messaging app as a last resort, but they are all DLL's, I have no idea if it is possible to edit these.

I looked around fishing on the vzw and vcast urls to see if I could find the 6700 uaprof.xml file.

To give us an idea they look somewhate like this.

Im used both url snooper and blackwidow. Im sure there are others but they have those fairly well locked down.

for example.

http://uaprof.vtext.com/lg/vx7000/vx7000.xml
http://uaprof.vtext.com/mot/v3/v3v1.xml
http://uaprof.vtext.com/lg/vx8300/vx8300.xml
http://uaprof.vtext.com/lg/vx9900/vx9900.xml
http://uaprof.vtext.com/nokia/6236/6236v1.xml

Butload more here.
http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=6&gl=us

I have tryed the following codes for brand name.
"ut", "vzw", "av" "avx" , "aud" "utstar"

I have tryed the following models code combinations.

utstar67kv1
xv6700
ut6700
xv67kv1
ut67kv1

Feel free to try. Im sure it exists somewhere.

If someone can take apart the arcsoft apache mms application we might find the url embedded somewhere inside one of the dlls or something. I think this might be a major development if we can find the location of the url on the uaprof.vtext.com server.

I get the same message on my 6800 unfortunately.

I looked around @ the strings in the DLL/EXEs in the Palm applications.
The string "X-VzW-MDN" does appear in what appears to be a message that can be sent to an error log. I was unable to find out how to enable the log or to find out how to set the value. I'm guessing the app either auto detects Verizon or there is a registry key to enable Verizon specific behaviors.

I then looked around about the MMS protocol and MMS gateways - there are a few string resources in the MMSStack.dll that might be relevant - specifically a string "No From" which is put into the header if there is no "from" address (not sure if that is the MDN or not). There is also a string resource "/TYPE=PLNM" which is appended to the MDN in the MMS gateway protocol. I tried adding by phone # to various places in those strings without much luck.

I think the easier approach would be to find a Verizon customer with the Palm SMS application working and look at their registry.

I did look for what would be "obvious" registry value names in the DLL/EXEs, but got tired of looking (and trying). I decided to focus on finding out why the standard SMS application wouldn't work for me instead.

...tom

Looks like there is some hard coding of the hardware id in the mmsstack.dll file.

see attachment.

still doesn't answer the question of what is the uaprof.xml file for the 6700 if it even exists.

It might be nothing of relevance as well. not sure

Interesting...points to http://electricpocket.com/UAProf/Palm/Palm750_RC1.xml

I'm guessing that to be the default if no registry value is there to override it. that section contains many registry key names and values - my guess it that it is a hardcoded WCHAR table of keys/defaults.

...tom

so hex edit that to the lg9900 and use the same in the registery. trasfer the mmsstack.dll back to the pda and soft reset. see if we can fake the mms out.

ill be laughing from the sidelines if it works out.

Never know.

The lg link is

http://uaprof.vtext.com/lg/vx9900/vx9900.xml


vx9900 is the id.

good luck

null

The Threaded SMS from the WM6 Treo 750 was ripped

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899

In reference to the UAProf, this version has the following reg keys

"MMSUA"="TREO650R7"
"MMSUAProf"="http://www.electricpocket.com/UAProf/Palm/TREO650R7.xml"

All the settings are set to Cingular, but Cody is working on a Sprint version this weekend for the 6800

http://ppcgeeks.com/viewtopic,p,69720.html#69720

I get the "unsupported format" error still, but I'll play around with it. I get this with the Treo650 setting as well as the http://uaprof.vtext.com/lg/vx9900/vx9900.xml setting. I am on Sprint, so that could be an issue since the vx9900 is a Verizon phone. Anyone have a UAProf XML URL for a Sprint MMS capable phone?

EDIT: Found this one for the Sprint 650. The WM6 750 Threaded SMS cab uses the UAProf for a 650, so I don't see why we can't do the same. The device name/model is POTR650HK.

http://device.sprintpcs.com/PALMONE/...azer400103.rdf

However, I still get the same "unsupported format" error.

Crazy enough, my niece has US Cellular & sent me a MMS pic. It was delivered via the Palm App!!!! There's a little picturemail icon in the thread next to her message. When I open it, it shows the picture. I tried replying, & got the same message everyone else is getting. It failed.

Now, my wife has Verizon, as I do. When she sends me an MMS, it comes thru the ArcSoft app.

Go figure!?!?

what service are you on?

Verizon

doh, dont know how i missed that.

Aamon, that might have been a matter of which app was open in the background at the time. I've found by sending myself a lot of picture messages that, if you have not changed HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Inbox/Svc/MMS (Or MMS1) to HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Inbox/Svc/MMS.old (Or MMS1.old) the Arcsoft app tends to receive them by default. When I installed the app via cab, and fixed my registry to MMS.old, all messages came through the palm app, I no longer had an MMS portion of POutlook, in fact. However, I now have it installed via OEM, and it seems that even editing MMS.old does not make Arcsoft's client go away. However, what I will be doing now that I am building a new ROM is not including any sort of Arcsoft client, and seeing what I can see.

How do you send MMS messages if the MMS portion is gone & the Palm app isn't sending?

Exactly.

I hate the arcsoft client. I hate having to click "To:" and scrolling through my contacts, it's slow, ugly, No softkey support, and every version I've used had some problem, whether it be file format not supported errors for videos, not allowing me to receive videos period, or what was most perplexing - breaking video up in to a series of jpgs.
So, right now, while I have receive capability, I can not send pictures. I do not want to install any Arcsoft Client, as a matter of principle, and also because I do not want it fighting the palm app for received messages.

subscribe :D I am going to try and get it working on the .4 ROm as soon as it comes out

UAProf's explained
 

Everyone,
UAProf stands for User Agent Profile. User agents are network connected devices. The reason they are in existance is to tell servers how to format data for a particular UA. For example, phone x has a monochrome screen and no polyphonic sound. Its UA would tell the server that and the server can format the data appropriate for its capabilities. The apache has a UAProf and it is not the generic one. If any of you know what the UAProf contains please let me know. There is a database that contains almost all UA's and Their Profiles but you have to be a memeber and you have to pay to use it....