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DopeWeasel 05-29-2007 11:32 PM

Unlock your Car with the PPC 6700
 
Found this diggin around tonight, what do you all think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXUmx...%2Dthey%2Dwork

Oh... uhh, watch the second vid on that page.

Trident 05-30-2007 01:16 AM

Please don't tell me that anyone seriously believes that a car that uses RF signals can be unlocked with an IR signal.
The cellphone one is even more ridiculous.
Now, the tennis ball... that might work on some cheap cars. But it would certainly set off an alarm on any car that has an electronic locking mechanism. :roll:

chuque 05-30-2007 01:20 AM

I don't see how either would work, unless you had an air tight door panel or an alarm that works off of IR ...

Shadoh 05-30-2007 01:32 AM

As someone who works for an "on site" mobile electronics company and who has installed thousands of alarms and other vehicle electronics at the dealerships I have to say BS.

The only one I could see working is if you had an older Jeep product that used the IR alarm/keyless entry transmitters (yes, they had them, stupid idea) you could possible teach those to your device and try to use its very weak IR transmitter to unlock the Jeep.

dannyppc6700 05-30-2007 08:02 AM

right. older jeep has IR.

Or if you had some kind of internet service/ w/ onstar type of service.

bmtbandit 05-30-2007 08:33 AM

I don't believe this either, although Mercedes (2004 SL500) uses IR to allow the person to put the top and windows down. This could be what they are eluding to.

badutahboy 05-31-2007 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmtbandit
I don't believe this either, although Mercedes (2004 SL500) uses IR to allow the person to put the top and windows down. This could be what they are eluding to.


my 2001 Mercedes C240 also uses IR for the windows/sunroof.. In fact, the ignition is IR as well..

badutahboy 05-31-2007 02:15 PM

Just for shlts and giggles, I tested these theories.

I tested the beam theory on my sisters 2002 Toyota Corolla... No dice.

I tested the signal by phone theory on my 2001 Mercedes C240, my 2006 Dodge Ram, and my sisters 2002 Corolla... no dice.

I didn't test the tennis ball theory because I don't have one handy, but it's also nonsense, as the door lock is not a sealed system. IF you can compress air into the car, it would simply fill the door cavity, and leak out through the seep holes inthe bottom of the door. The only possible way it would work is if you had something that could push air into the door faster than the seep holes, window scrubbers, locking mechanism, etc could release that pressure from the door cavity. Presumably, you'd need at least a 5 gallon air tank which could release all of it's air within a couple of seconds. Even then, it's doubtful about whether it'd work.

Shadoh 06-02-2007 11:51 PM

Quote:

my 2001 Mercedes C240 also uses IR for the windows/sunroof.. In fact, the ignition is IR as well.
The ignition is only partly IR. You still have to rotate the cylinder to start the car. Only the code to tell the computer its ok to start is IR. I wonder if you could take a code learning IR remote and learn the code from the key and then rotate the cylinder without the actual Mercedes key with say pliers, screwdriver, general thief type tools ). I think the car tells the key when to transmit the code though so I dont know how you could easily get it to send while facing a learning remote.

Krayziepop 06-03-2007 12:21 AM

http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp

Yeah.... gotsta love the start of an urban legend... :lol:

DopeWeasel 06-03-2007 01:48 AM

Here's a bit of an update...

According to a fellow digger:

source: http://digg.com/mods/Strange_Ways_to_Unlock_Car_Doors
by fashnek on 5/30/07
Quote:

http://digg.com/gaming_news/The_Top_...story#c2437211

It's complete BS. Try to research it yourself; all you'll find is that it's a Street Fighter II code.. and definitely not actually useful for a car.
So yes, I agree this must be total BS. I'm also convinced that the tennis ball trick will do nothing more than ruin a good tennis ball, and possibly dent the area around the door mechanism.

A couple other neat related ideas if anyone cares. The first vid on this next page seems to hold up, but it's an app written for the RAZR

http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/t...lock-car-doors

drunkdirtbiker 07-17-2007 09:43 AM

actually its possible t unlock your car door with the 6700 or any other phone or device. I.e. if you have the actual remote to unlock the door stand in your house and have a friend stand by your car, call that person and have him/her hold the phone near the car, then hold the remote close to the phone and press the unlock button

TheDeadlySponge 07-17-2007 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drunkdirtbiker
actually its possible t unlock your car door with the 6700 or any other phone or device. I.e. if you have the actual remote to unlock the door stand in your house and have a friend stand by your car, call that person and have him/her hold the phone near the car, then hold the remote close to the phone and press the unlock button

read the scopes link... you'll see that it's just an urban myth

the car remotes use radio frequencies that a phone can not possibly transmit

4 Door Skyline 07-17-2007 10:16 AM

actually it has worked with a buddy's car....but when I tried it with my own it would not work.

So its not an urban myth!

rbinkley 07-17-2007 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drunkdirtbiker
actually its possible t unlock your car door with the 6700 or any other phone or device. I.e. if you have the actual remote to unlock the door stand in your house and have a friend stand by your car, call that person and have him/her hold the phone near the car, then hold the remote close to the phone and press the unlock button

Are you indicating that cellular phones transmit RF via the microphone and speaker? Sounds fishy

Elbimster 07-17-2007 02:46 PM

Actually, it is possible to unlock your car using a (bluetooth) cell phone. You just gotta pay for it.

http://www.connect2car.com/web/index.php

Saw it on Pimp My Ride a few months back.

Shaska 07-17-2007 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4 Door Skyline
actually it has worked with a buddy's car....but when I tried it with my own it would not work.

So its not an urban myth!

So, Your saying a friend of yours did something you have no ability to verify or prove?

Ya know, I got this friend, Who can turn water into wine... I cant do it myself though, But its totally real! He totally can turn water into wine... All you have to do is turn around for a second and he will do it! :roll:

A PPC6700 has only one method of RF, and thats RF interference, AKA if you somehow manage to get a PPC6700 to unlock a car, You have basically just saw a flying pig... And will probably never see it again...

Elbimster 07-17-2007 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaska
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4 Door Skyline
actually it has worked with a buddy's car....but when I tried it with my own it would not work.

So its not an urban myth!

So, Your saying a friend of yours did something you have no ability to verify or prove?

Ya know, I got this friend, Who can turn water into wine... I cant do it myself though, But its totally real! He totally can turn water into wine... All you have to do is turn around for a second and he will do it! :roll:

A PPC6700 has only one method of RF, and thats RF interference, AKA if you somehow manage to get a PPC6700 to unlock a car, You have basically just saw a flying pig... And will probably never see it again...

Ya know, I know this guy who was working for GM, and developed this car that can run on bullshit, which there's a never ending supply of in this country, but the gas companies and the Bush Administration, in conjunction with the Brandt corporation, erased his memory so he can't do it every again.

bugs9477 08-11-2007 07:25 PM

Not saying that this works or anything but this is something all of you should think about before you start flaming someone!

"Bluetooth is the name for a short-range radio frequency (RF) technology that operates at 2.4 GHz and is capable of transmitting voice and data. The effective range of Bluetooth devices is 32 feet (10 meters)."

my phone has IR as well as bluetooth which I do believe the beam has to be enabled for both to work I might be wrong ..... I'll look in to it!

but in any case my phone transmits RF as well!

I am in the industry so I will be doing some testing !

Will post back if there is any validity to this!

luv2chill 08-11-2007 07:36 PM

If you are in the industry then you know something about frequency and wavelength... not to mention protocol.

But go ahead and waste your time if you want.

tiermann 08-11-2007 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bugs9477
Not saying that this works or anything but this is something all of you should think about before you start flaming someone!

"Bluetooth is the name for a short-range radio frequency (RF) technology that operates at 2.4 GHz and is capable of transmitting voice and data. The effective range of Bluetooth devices is 32 feet (10 meters)."

my phone has IR as well as bluetooth which I do believe the beam has to be enabled for both to work I might be wrong ..... I'll look in to it!

but in any case my phone transmits RF as well!

I am in the industry so I will be doing some testing !

Will post back if there is any validity to this!

So I can unlock a car with a wireless router or even a cordless phone too? Both operate at 2.4ghz and have a much nicer range than bluetooth.

Storing up a bunch of alarm codes and setting off all the panics in a 300m radius could be fun :)

bugs9477 08-11-2007 08:11 PM

luv2chill your a good guy and from what I can tell very smart and/or talented or both but you have over looked one major thing and it is staring you right in the face, something that gives you an idea what industry I am in,...................... don't flame me I'm not worth it!

and if you did read what is under my posts why would you think that I was in IR or RF field??

Why must people be so blind!!!!!
Why must people feel the need to be closed minded or just plain rude!

"But go ahead and waste your time if you want."

that is what I am here for! I'm off work and my wife and 3 daughters are
shopping.......... what do I do when this happens ..... waist my time and drink beer! lol.

Like I said I'm not worth it !

bugs9477 08-11-2007 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiermann
Quote:

Originally Posted by bugs9477
Not saying that this works or anything but this is something all of you should think about before you start flaming someone!

"Bluetooth is the name for a short-range radio frequency (RF) technology that operates at 2.4 GHz and is capable of transmitting voice and data. The effective range of Bluetooth devices is 32 feet (10 meters)."

my phone has IR as well as bluetooth which I do believe the beam has to be enabled for both to work I might be wrong ..... I'll look in to it!

but in any case my phone transmits RF as well!

I am in the industry so I will be doing some testing !

Will post back if there is any validity to this!

So I can unlock a car with a wireless router or even a cordless phone too? Both operate at 2.4ghz and have a much nicer range than bluetooth.

Storing up a bunch of alarm codes and setting off all the panics in a 300m radius could be fun :)

I dont know about fun for me, but if that is what you consider fun ...sure fill your boots!!

bugs9477 08-11-2007 08:26 PM

I don't think a router can do that but if you do great news!

bugs9477 08-11-2007 09:18 PM

As a result of all the negative feedback to DopeWeasel's "Found this diggin around tonight, what do you all think?" post I, Have two drivers one with a 2006 toyota corolla and 2003 infinity G35 and the other with a 04 and a 05 G35, and we will try every thing with our phones to get in to these cars....sorry guys I don't have anything better to do with my time but to sit here and get results!

I'll check back soon!

bugs9477 08-11-2007 10:32 PM

Test results
 
Ok, so we were unable to get in to any of the cars with our phones so as it sits unless we have done something wrong it doesn't work for us.

we also tried putting my wireless router with in range as some smart @55 suggessted..... nope doesn't work for us. but just incase there is someone that would like to try it with their phone or router we used a Telus HTC P4000 WM6, Palm Treo 700wx WM5, Motorola Q WM5 and for wireless routers we used a Linksys WRT54GS, Linksys WCG200, Linksys WRT54G3G-ST Sorry I don't have any other equipment that I can try with one of my guys did suggest throwing my phone through the window of the 05 G35 that way i could tell you guys that my phone work at unlocking cars.... LOL i'm thinking about firing his @55 because after 5 months he is still doesn't use his brain!

bugs9477 08-12-2007 03:19 AM

update!!!!

I was able to unlock my wifes saturn with my PPC!

bugs9477 08-12-2007 03:47 AM

For those of you that would like to know the code is " *222 send " this code is for her 07 saturn sky... but from what iv'e been told It will work on any car , truck , motorcycle or motorhome but only if you have a special card in your walet or purse that says CAA, AAA or AMA on it.


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