BT headset button won't activate phone
 

On the original Verizon WM5 ROM, I could wake up the phone and activate the voicedial application by pressing the button on my bluetooth headset. I've upgraded to phoenx06's C&S ROM, which I like very much, but now this doesn't work any more. Does anyone know: should it? how to fix it? I miss this feature...

Mike

Re: BT headset button won't activate phone
 

It must not have the MSCV on that rom u updated to. Did u look thru the list of aps it had before installing?

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Yep, I did check the software that was included. It does in fact have a voice dialer included with it, although I installed a different one and tried putting its .exe file into the registry key where one specifies the name of the program to run when the BT headset's button is pressed. Neither one worked. The problem is that nothing at all happens when I hit the BT button - the phone doesn't wake up at all, and it doesn't activate any program that might be indicated by that registry key. I think the problem is "upstream" of having or not having a piece of software - I think the phone is not woken up by the BT button so it never gets to try to run anything. Actually, even if the phone is awake, the button doesn't do anything. The BT headset's button only works within the phone application, to answer an incoming call or to hang up a call. Do you know of any way to debug this problem? I am trying to find anyone else using this ROM to see if they have the same problem, but so far no one has replied.

Thanks,

Mike

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Don't know what the ROM u are using is 5, 6, or 6.1. Have you ever considered cooking with the Helmi 6.0 kitchen? One of the software options is Voice Command. The voice recognition works great on my Jabra headset. It not only controls phone but opens programs as well.

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I'd love to do that; the problem is, I don't know nearly enough to cook it properly. I'm a molecular biologist with a background in computer science but I have no experience with Windows (or Windows Mobile) and am too busy to read everything necessary to really know what I'm doing. It would be fun to get into it, but I've also got 2 kids and there's simply not enough time in the day to learn all of the intricacies of this... There was one person on here who was going to help me (for a consulting fee of course) and put together a custom ROM for me based on what I need (and software I have), but I haven't been able to get a reply back from him in months. Do you know of anyone who might be interested in that?

Mike

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Hey, it is not hard at all. You definitely don't need to pay anyone (you might consider a donation to the kitchen makeers). You just need the kitchen (PPC-BuildOS), the OEM.rar (ingredients or your carrier specific info), and the RUU (the updater). I read a bit before I did it just to make sure I couldn't do anything really bad (but there is always the disclaimer that you could brick your phone). I feel pretty comfortable with the latest WM6 kitchen but I'm holding out on the 6.1 (seems a bit buggy for me from the posts). The main things are make sure you have an XP machine with AS 4.5, .NET 2.0 Framework, and check as few of the options as you can in your ROM recipe (it's hard cuz like being in a candy store) so that the ROM is not too big.

Check it out this tutorial by Ga.Medic et.al.:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...light=gguruusa


Or you can buy Voice Command from Microsoft here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobi...d/default.mspx

It's about $40 and doesn't announce right in headset in WM5.

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Thanks for the links! I probably should try it. I like the phoenx06 C&S ROM and I'm not sure if everything in it is also in this kitchen or not. The BT button thing is huge though...
What I was hoping in trying to hire one of the experts on this board is to have someone cook me up a ROM that had my settings and the software I own already in it, so that I wouldn't have to customize so much when I hard-reset.
By the way, I tried MSVC and I didn't like it (it couldn't understand me very well, which is odd because I don't have any sort of weird accent). But what I did get is Cyberon Voice Commander (not the simpler Dialer), and this is awesome - very very good.

Mike

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Well, that would be a huge undertaking to incorporate your own software into the kitchen. I'm not sure it is that cost effective to do that. It's not that hard to reinstall .CABs and I usually have them, and contacts and calendars, and ringtones and custom stuff, sync-ed to PCs. The hard-reset is traumatic sometimes so I don't try to challenge my ROM too much. My 6700 is doing everything I want right now so I'm happy.

Yeah, the VC can act up at times. If it doesn't get it right the first time, the second option is not even close. Hey, it is kind of StarTrek technology so I have to give it break.

Your BT problem sounds weird and associated to the ROM. I think I've read about special button mapping software on the forum if you are sure the app is there. Look in that post where the power button was crushed. Hope you get it fixed.

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I see. I didn't know how bad it would be. Ok. Then is there a list (explanation) of what all the individual stuff in that kitchen is, so that I can make informed decisions about what I'm including and what I'm not including? Thanks,

Mike

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If I'm not mistaken, I cooked a couple of months ago and must have got it right the first time, an explanation comes up when you hover over the item. Most are pretty apparent and if you don't know for sure, don't check it. More room to add something you really want.

The essential stuff you really need for your phone to work is already checked when you specify your carrier, so don't uncheck anything unless you specifically don't want Windows Live or something like that. It's all about the space.

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ok I'm going for it. Can you tell me where to download the RUU, PPC-BuildOS, and OEM.rar for the latest WM6 that works with the BT headset etc.? I see the link in the post you pointed me to but I can't tell if it's the latest one or the non-buggy one you referred to. I just want to make sure I've got the right files.

Thanks!!

Mike

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The links to the software should be fine cuz that was the last WM6 kitchen developed when I upgraded. I'm in that link somewhere. The sticky on the upgrade subforum is now for the first 6.1 kitchen. Alot of people like it but I'm going to wait a bit if I upgrade at all.

As for fixing your voice tags and BT headset problem, an OS flash/update to WM6 is not a guaranteed fix. Certainly, if you cook your own ROM you should be sure that the voice tag software is available. I must have left it out cuz I can't do the voice tags, just the MSVC.

Just try cooking a ROM first. If it goes well and you feel good about it you can flash it. Point is you don't have to flash every ROM you cook.

Also, don't upgrade the OS if you are happy with your device. Sounds like you liked the voice tag and headset operation in WM5. You could flash back to the stock Verizon ROM. WM6 gives you html mail and Windows Live and WM6.1 gives you threaded SMS and zooming IE but all these features can be obtained through different browsers and software.

Oh, just checked and it looks like your Cyberon VC that you liked is an option.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

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for me it's not the voice tags software that's the problem - I like the Cyberon commander just fine. The problem is that under this phoenx06 ROM, the headset button won't wake up the phone (so it doesn't matter what software I use - it doesn't get activated when I hit the headset button). Otherwise I love the ROM - it's more stable and quicker than the original Verizon ROM. I don't know what kitchen phoenx06 based his on, but I'm hoping that if I cook one, it will respond to the BT headset button like yours does. For some reason, his doesn't. It can't just be the software that's in it, since it doesn't wake up the phone. It has to be some other low-level (or BT support) thing. I guess the only way to know is to cook one and try it - if I don't flash to it, I'll never know if it wakes up on BT button press or not. I'm going to try to find the latest files for the 6.0 kitchen.

Thanks!

Mike

where's the latest Helmi 6.0 kitchen?
 

Ok, I just checked. The phoenx06 ROM I'm using was made on 8-10-07, using the Helmi 3.5 1.0.4 kitchen. The top link on the board also points to that one. Where is the Helmi 6.0 kitchen you suggested me to use? Not to be obtuse, but I really just want to make sure I get the right thing, and I don't know the mapping between the AKUs (isn't that what the 3.5 is?) and the WM (which is what the 6.0 is, right). Where's the latest link to the Helmi 6.0 kitchen?

Mike

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Step 5 of the Ga.Medic tutorial will get you to the 12/17/2007 kitchen, which was the last WM6 before the first releasable 6.1 came out in early March 2008. You have to have an appreciation for the work and testing involved in developing these kitchens. That's why there are like 100 pages associated with them with issues from testers (basically us) that can be fixed in the next kitchen. It looks like your ROM was made with one of the first WM6 kitchens that came out. I got my 6700 in Nov 07, found the PPCGeeks site in Dec 07, read for about a month, and did my first (and only) flash in Feb 08. However, prior to the August 07 kitchen, I don't know how many iterations exist. I know that when I asked the forum, they did not recommend flashing to the already cooked ROMs that were floating around and cook through the kitchen. Just folllow the directions and you should be OK. Have you checked your Bootloader version yet? The 1.02 and 1.04 versions will be less troublesome than the 2.XX versions.

Well, I guess I didn't pick up on the fact that you could never get your BT headset to activate your phone for a call with the Cyberon or the voice tags. I know that my BT headset works with MSVC with the Helmi_c WM6 ROM I cooked so that does seem to be ROM related.

I'm not quite sure what that 3.5 AKU means, either. I do know that that was the last VZW-sanctioned upgrade to the ROM, and that was still WM5. When you do Start>Settings>System tab>About on the device what does it say about the operating system version? Maybe you aren't really running WM6??? Mine says Windows Mobile 6 Professional.

If you do happen to run into issues, it is best to post to the end of that Ga.Medic thread, which is still active. There is gguruusa there that really knows their kitchen stuff. I didn't have any problems other than not having .NET 2.0 Framework installed (kitchen wouldn't start) and RUU couldn't update the phone cuz it couldn't find an ActiveSync file.

You do know there is a separate upgrade subforum:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=53

We should be posting there according to the rules but so far no one has complained. I suppose you could do a search over there for WM6 kitchens after 12/17/2007 if you want to make sure there are no more kitchen versions. Also, I think it would be best to work off one tutorial. Mixing the files between different builds could really be a disaster.