I need help some help with the kitchen.
 

First I'd like to say hello to everyone. I am new to this site, and I am actually getting my first HTC Apache tomorrow or Friday. I downloaded the kitchen BuildOS thing today so I could go ahead and start building my OS and have that done by the time it came in. The problem is (and this might not even be a problem) when i open up BuildOS, the only customization options I get are additional sounds, ringtones, and themes. I have looked everywhere and I can't seem to find any other options. I have run the updater and taken care of that, I just need to know where to go from here. I really was most interested in getting all of the basics like Office 2007, etc. as well as the feature that allows you to use touch flo like on the HTC Touch plus some other small things. Any help on this matter is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance.

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I don't understand what you're saying. Those are the only optionsin that catagorey. Watch the videos at the link in my signature. Might help you out.

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Just some friendly advise. Don't be in such a hurry to flash it. Read up on the process and some of the pitfalls. It will be much easier to troubleshoot if you can describe exactly the problem that you may have. Use the phone and get to know how it works. For example, you will get the mobile versions of Word. Excel, etc. with the Windows Mobile OS so you don't have to choose anything in the kitchen. There is alot of info here and ppl are ready to help but just don't dive off the deep end!

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Haha, thanks for the advice! After thinking about it some more and looking at it all, I think I will be waiting on building my own OS. However, I do want to upgrade to WM6 so I will be able to use OneNote on my phone and put it on the computer. So, what would you advise doing in order to get just WM6? Does anyone know if the Apache is compatible with the WM6 update you can download on microsoft.com? Thanks a bunch for your help.

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Best way is through the kitchen. Take gambatte's advice and learn the phone with the stock rom first. It won't take long. Then you can get the latest kitchen and build your custom WM6 rom with OneNote included. It's really is not that complicated and there are numerous tutorials on this site that will walk you though building and flashing your new rom. There are also a lot of very smart people who are more than willing to help.

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Sorry but WM is not the typical OS that can be updated like a PC, for example. WM is provided to the phone carriers, Sprint, VZW, et.al., who customize it to work on their networks. So the ROM updates are offered by your phone carrier. The 6700 is a rather old phone and not supported anymore in terms of updates by the carriers. But it is a very capable PPC and the kitchen makers (e.g. BuildOS) have breathed new life by allowing us to put WM6/6.1 on the 6700. So, since the 6/6.1 ROMs are not sanctioned by the phone companies, when you get your phone, you should activate it with the WM5 standard ROM for your carrier. Once you update to 6/6.1, you lose customer support at the carrier. But don't worry 'cuz most ppl on the site know a whole lot more about the 6700 than any rep. In short, a ROM is very device/carrier oriented, and you probably noticed that when you cooked your ROM in the kitchen (note the jargon we use, haha).

The 6.1 upgrade you saw on the Microsoft site was for Windows Mobile Office 6.1, not the OS. I know, kinda confusing. But you will get the hang of it.

BTW, did you get a PPC6700 (Sprint) or a XV6700 (VZW)?

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This is caused by either not selecting a good selections.txt (we may have broken them over time) or not having ppcgeeks_oem.rar in the kitchens/ folder. We'll put out a new kitchen shortly that's much more current.

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Looking over the documentation for OneNote and didn't see any requirement for WM6:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/on...956221033.aspx

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Thanks everyone for your help! I received my phone yesterday and I have thoroughly enjoyed it. I also figured out my problem with the kitchen, gguruusa you were correct that I had not selected a selections when using the updater. Thanks again everyone for your assistance.
Oh and Gambette, I have the PPC6700 on the Cellular South network.

Also, I have started working on building my OS, and I have a question. Are there any options to select that are vital to the OS? I am getting lost in all of the options. Haha, once again, any help is greatly appreciated.

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First check for your bootloader (BL) version. To do this you simply press the power button, the record button and the reset button at the same time. You will notice that the screen gets dark. If you take a small light or flashlight and look at the screen you will be able to see the word USB at the top of the screen. At the bottom of the screen you will see the version number. Example: 1.00, 1.02, 1.04, 2.02, 2.04 or 2.05. You will need to make a note of which version you have so that you can use it as the REV in the kitchen. To exit bootloader hit the reset button only. The BL also determines how big of a ROM you can cook (1.00 biggest to 2.05 smallest). No, you don't have to select any options in the kitchen for a viable OS. Another bit of advice is not to add any program that is updatable, e.g. Yahoo 2 Go! or Mobile Live Search. When they update, they install to storage memory anyway. Everything else is fair game but keep it small. Keep It Simple Stupid definitely applies here! If you don't get it right the first time, I hear you can flash up to 10000 times. LOL.

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Also watch hte video in my signature.

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Alright thanks for that! I have v. 2.02 on mine. Alright good, I didn't want to leave anything that's important. Since there aren't any necessary options, are there any that you (or anyone) highly recommend? Sorry about all the questions, like I said I'm very new to this (as you can tell. Haha)

Also, I know changing to WM6 voids your warranty, but does that have affect on my insurance coverage? Thanks again.

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Well chaniging to WM6/6.1 acctually won't void it as there is no physical way to tell. And if you call for tech support and they dont see it and you get a replacment then don't say you have WM6/6.1 they wil send you a new one and you dont have turn in your old one. Basically it's very safe to upgrade :) Here is the stuff I used download the file below and select when the kitchen asks for config file. Also I selected the right REV version for you but idk your carrir so just change it if it aint Verizon.

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Thank you so much for the config. you used! I have been staring at my screen trying to figure out what would be good (half of the stuff I have no clue what it does. Haha). I appreciate it alot. I am going to try and update tonight and get it done, I will have to post how it all goes. Thanks again to everyone that helped me understand the wonders of a PPC. :)

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Yep. This is something that can't be done with an iPhone.

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That's right! I had a very "interesting" conversation with someone today about how my Windows Mobile PPC could beat their iPhone. They just laughed it off but wait until I show them this! Haha

One last question, if I don't select any options on the Home Screen area when building the OS, will it be blank or will I be able to edit it all from the phone? Thanks!

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Hahaha don't even waste time with the iPhone! The ONLY thing I like is the clean UI of it. Everything else is garbage! Not to mention the ghetto AT&T Service. I don't quite understand what you mean by "home scren" I included everything in that config file for you. Watch my review on WM6 for Apache, second link in my sig and that should be how yours will look.

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We just want you to have a successful flash. Although it is difficult to brick the 6700 (e.g. it becomes inoperable), it can be a little scary when things go wrong. As long as PDAPJ has flashed this config with BL2.02, you should be OK. The WM6 doesn't "void" anything as long as you reflash back to WM5 stock b4 you do anything "official". Noone will ever know. LOL.

You should get a standard WM6/6.1 home screen with no options. That's what I run. Again, KISS.

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Yep I set it up with v2.02 I think.

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Alright, with all of your help I have successfully flashed WM6.1 onto my Apache! Woo! So far I really like it. I have a question though, is it safe to go through and rebuild my OS without some of the stuff I thought I needed but really don't and then re-flash? PDAJUNKIE, I used everything you had in your build, I just added several things that I thought I needed, but it does not seem that I do. Thanks again.

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Personally, I wouldn't worry about the extra stuff right now. Work with the ROM for a while. What you are really looking for is stability. Sometimes problems show up later (lockups, WIFI, BT, other weird behavior). Then if you don't like it, yeah, cook another ROM and reflash. Up to 10000 times... But you did notice that when you flashed it wiped out any data you had added. Right now, you probably don't have alot of contacts, calendar, programs added but back them up if and when you decide to reflash.

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Couldn't have said it better myself^

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Alright, thanks for your input! I will just wait and see if any problems arise and if so I will reflash, but so far (yeah I know it's only been a day. haha) I have not had any problems with it.
Yeah, I had done some reading ahead and saw that it would wipe out everything, so I did a backup on my phone and backed up to the computer to make sure I had it all safe.