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dtrush 07-11-2011 10:59 AM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2126513)
the vibrate remained after even doing the soft resets and such? it may be a hardware issue because the vibrate occurs before the actual OS.but who knows
Yep, changing to different batteries, 20 soft resets(or more:)) and uninstalling programs, changing system settings etc..... It's not a hardware issue at all. Right following the HTC boot screen and immediately when it shows Windows Phone Not For Resale screen the vibrate started and remained while the phone is on. Only turned off after shutdown was finished and the phone was powered down completelyangry9:
After I did a hard reset it cleared everything up and everything is back to normal.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidinCT (Post 2126543)
Watch your backups, Not sure what happend here, maybe when I upgraded Zune to 4.8 or when I reinstalled the old version. I needed roll back to Nodo to fix some issues and my backup is GONE (I know where it should be, I've been reading over XDA for the last day).

So my quest is on to find a Verizon HTC Trophy OEM rom to go back or when final comes out, I might be screwed.

As of today, no way possable to go back to NoDo for me :(
I've made a conscious choice not to reformat my computer and backup my NoDo file. I copied it onto another hard drive for safe keeping. Hopefully everything works out in the future when the release comes out.
The backup should be at c:/premangostate

DavidinCT 07-11-2011 11:41 AM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dtrush (Post 2126566)


I've made a conscious choice not to reformat my computer and backup my NoDo file. I copied it onto another hard drive for safe keeping. Hopefully everything works out in the future when the release comes out.
The backup should be at c:/premangostate
Your Premangostate folder is just the XML for your phone (check the folder size).

Your backup SHOULD be stored at %LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

Same here, I was very careful but, at some point, upgrading zune or reinstalling it, it overwrote the files and they are gone (I should of copied the files elsewhere, I was but never did). Last night I spent 3 hours with a undelete program to see if the files were still there...no joy

My only option is to find a Verizon OEM rom and nuke my phone but, I need to find a rom. The one on XDA is a demo rom, not the release So it has issues according to other people...

So I am pretty screwed unless there is a new release (mango is working fine as of now but, I want to fix some issues and need to go back to nodo)

DavidinCT 07-11-2011 12:33 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
A tip for anyone who has not installed it yet (would of solved my problem), Install the Updated Zune software (4.8) BEFORE you install mango. 4.7 won't see mango but, 4.8 will see a non-mango device and a mango one.

eric12341 07-11-2011 01:57 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidinCT (Post 2126543)
Watch your backups, Not sure what happend here, maybe when I upgraded Zune to 4.8 or when I reinstalled the old version. I needed roll back to Nodo to fix some issues and my backup is GONE (I know where it should be, I've been reading over XDA for the last day).

So my quest is on to find a Verizon HTC Trophy OEM rom to go back or when final comes out, I might be screwed.

As of today, no way possable to go back to NoDo for me :(
what issues were u having? and I took my backup folder and put a copy on my TP2s microSD card so I'll still have mine and if not then I have a couple of roms on xda to flash.

DavidinCT 07-11-2011 02:10 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2126677)
what issues were u having?
Nothing really, I wanted to use some "unlocked" features but, the XAPs need to be installed before upgrading to mango, so I was going to roll back to add them but, now I am screwed.

I'm thinking more of the final but, I would like to take advantage of it now.

I hope I can find a rom for my trophy...

esqueue 07-11-2011 02:34 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidinCT (Post 2126635)
A tip for anyone who has not installed it yet (would of solved my problem), Install the Updated Zune software (4.8) BEFORE you install mango. 4.7 won't see mango but, 4.8 will see a non-mango device and a mango one.
Before giving up keep in mind that even though I thought that I made a few backup copies but they were only 302kb which has to be wrong. I also installed 4.8 after installing mango and thought I couldn't downgrade. I then ran and installed a file called MangoB2-ZuneClient.zip which I got from xda. Somehow when I synced my zune it came up with the option to revert back to NoDo. I was lucky.

Try installing zune from that file and tell me what happens. File too large to attach.

eric12341 07-11-2011 02:42 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by esqueue (Post 2126710)
Before giving up keep in mind that even though I thought that I made a few backup copies but they were only 302kb which has to be wrong. I also installed 4.8 after installing mango and thought I couldn't downgrade. I then ran and installed a file called MangoB2-ZuneClient.zip which I got from xda. Somehow when I synced my zune it came up with the option to revert back to NoDo. I was lucky.

Try installing zune from that file and tell me what happens. File too large to attach.
well us arrive users are lucky anyway because we have 2 roms on xda that we can flash so im ready in case my backup can't be restored.

DavidinCT 07-11-2011 03:15 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by esqueue (Post 2126710)
Before giving up keep in mind that even though I thought that I made a few backup copies but they were only 302kb which has to be wrong. I also installed 4.8 after installing mango and thought I couldn't downgrade. I then ran and installed a file called MangoB2-ZuneClient.zip which I got from xda. Somehow when I synced my zune it came up with the option to revert back to NoDo. I was lucky.

Try installing zune from that file and tell me what happens. File too large to attach.
The 302kb files are your XML files, needed but, not your prinary data...

Your backup data is stored at

%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

(put that in a run command, you should see a folder that is a few gb in size, that is your backup and this is what you should backup)

The problem is my Windows Phone update folder was overwritten when I downgraded back to 4.7 (I did my mango upgrade in 4.7, not a good idea, so I had to roll back to uninstall because it would not work in 4.8 for some reason)

Quote:
Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2126712)
well us arrive users are lucky anyway because we have 2 roms on xda that we can flash so im ready in case my backup can't be restored.
I thought us Trophy users were too but, it turns out the rom is bad, and just the demo rom (like you see in the store) and people have had issues.

Has your Arrive rom been tested by fellow Sprint users ?? Are you sure it's good ?

IF this was the case, I would of done this last night (if the rom was good) and you would of never seen a post by me on this.

eric12341 07-11-2011 04:16 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidinCT (Post 2126729)
The 302kb files are your XML files, needed but, not your prinary data...

Your backup data is stored at

%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

(put that in a run command, you should see a folder that is a few gb in size, that is your backup and this is what you should backup)

The problem is my Windows Phone update folder was overwritten when I downgraded back to 4.7 (I did my mango upgrade in 4.7, not a good idea, so I had to roll back to uninstall because it would not work in 4.8 for some reason)



I thought us Trophy users were too but, it turns out the rom is bad, and just the demo rom (like you see in the store) and people have had issues.

Has your Arrive rom been tested by fellow Sprint users ?? Are you sure it's good ?

IF this was the case, I would of done this last night (if the rom was good) and you would of never seen a post by me on this.
my premangostate folder was a few GB in size. I also did my mango update in 4.7

orangekid 07-11-2011 04:21 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
This thread seems to have cooled down a bit which is good, let's keep it civil :)

I'm going to flash Mango on my HD2 tonight or tomorrow, I had to let someone borrow it while i fixed their iPhone.

Let's see how this thing runs on my rig with a custom theme and developer unlocked :)

DavidinCT 07-11-2011 07:51 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2126764)
my premangostate folder was a few GB in size. I also did my mango update in 4.7
Interesting, Your the first I have heard say that. Even with the MS process it's in the %LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update folder...

Quote:
Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2126769)
This thread seems to have cooled down a bit which is good, let's keep it civil :)

I'm going to flash Mango on my HD2 tonight or tomorrow, I had to let someone borrow it while i fixed their iPhone.

Let's see how this thing runs on my rig with a custom theme and developer unlocked :)

Why is it the threads I start always have a battle in there someplace or another ??? :)

Good luck with the install, install zune 4.8 before doing the upgrade for the backup.

Mine trophy is Dev unlocked too..Want to go back to Nodo to install some of the explorer apps, then upgrade to mango, You need to have those installed before going to mango, you can't install them after.

orangekid 07-12-2011 08:14 AM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidinCT (Post 2126834)

Good luck with the install, install zune 4.8 before doing the upgrade for the backup.

Mine trophy is Dev unlocked too..Want to go back to Nodo to install some of the explorer apps, then upgrade to mango, You need to have those installed before going to mango, you can't install them after.
WP7 on HD2 is a little different, we just cook our custom Mango ROM and flash it that way, and have the explorer apps cooked into the ROM as well as anything else we want, we can't upgrade thru Zune :S

DavidinCT 07-12-2011 02:21 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2126970)
WP7 on HD2 is a little different, we just cook our custom Mango ROM and flash it that way, and have the explorer apps cooked into the ROM as well as anything else we want, we can't upgrade thru Zune :S
Ah, this I did not know. I thought once you activated live services your phone was treated like a normal phone. Do you have to do that whole process for every rom (nuke your phone to flash a new rom) ? No upgrade path ?

If not I guess I am glad I have a true WP7 model. I get a new one tomorrow anyway, I have a dead pixel on my display :(

eric12341 07-12-2011 03:46 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidinCT (Post 2127115)
Ah, this I did not know. I thought once you activated live services your phone was treated like a normal phone. Do you have to do that whole process for every rom (nuke your phone to flash a new rom) ? No upgrade path ?

If not I guess I am glad I have a true WP7 model. I get a new one tomorrow anyway, I have a dead pixel on my display :(
looks like u lucked out on the backup situation then.

DavidinCT 07-12-2011 04:44 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2127174)
looks like u lucked out on the backup situation then.
Yea, thank god...Don't worry, my process to mango will be different this time. I am even taking a full backup before I even touch the phone.

It will be backed up to 3 machines and burned to a DVD....I will not lose it again, trust me....

I still would like to have a image available, just in case tho...

nkdevelopment 07-20-2011 09:14 AM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Just installed mango last night and my first impression is how FAST IT IS!=D> IE9 was definitely the best part. I was amazed how quick it is over wifi. (Faster than my work computer) Only dislike so far is the limit on number of people in groups. I haven't played with it much but am excited to see more all day.

orangekid 07-22-2011 02:07 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidinCT (Post 2127115)
Ah, this I did not know. I thought once you activated live services your phone was treated like a normal phone. Do you have to do that whole process for every rom (nuke your phone to flash a new rom) ? No upgrade path ?

If not I guess I am glad I have a true WP7 model. I get a new one tomorrow anyway, I have a dead pixel on my display :(
No we cannot update thru Zune because we flash thru a custom bootloader.

Yes we have to flash a new ROM for every new ROM, but you don't flash new ROMs that often and we have tools to backup our xaps and things almost like UC or sashimi in WinMo so restoring isn't too hard, plus what's cool is that we can custom theme our tiles and keep our phones developer unlocked and of course dual-boot Android whenever we want!

stuff like this:

http://nsa19.casimages.com/img/2011/...5757892329.jpg

DavidinCT 07-24-2011 09:17 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2130902)
Yes we have to flash a new ROM for every new ROM, but you don't flash new ROMs that often and we have tools to backup our xaps and things almost like UC or sashimi in WinMo so restoring isn't too hard, plus what's cool is that we can custom theme our tiles and keep our phones developer unlocked and of course dual-boot Android whenever we want!
That is one thing I miss about my old TP2... 6.5 and Android, the best of both worlds. No question, I love WP7 and the flavor of mango just makes it that much better but, I do miss the tethering and some of the 6.5 apps/games that I can't get on Wp7.

With the HD2, you do get the best of all worlds, 6.5, Android and Wp7, so it would have all angles covered in my eyes (if you have Android or WP7, who cares about the iPhoney).

If I could of gotten a HD2 on Verizon (only carrer who has good coverage in my area, T-Mobile and Sprint are the worst), I would of gotten one a long time ago.

It's a nice phone(HD2) and the true Multi-OS is one feature I would love to have... Once the bootloader is cracked on WP7 devices, those days might come to everyone....but, intill then, mango will keep me happy.

orangekid 07-25-2011 11:30 AM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Actually Cotulla has already cracked the HD7 RSPL and supposedly got an Android Sense 3.0 ROM flashed onto it, probably just perfecting it now :)


http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...1&d=1302562201

orangekid 07-25-2011 12:02 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
here's the video of the HD7 running Android Sense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f3hT...layer_embedded

eric12341 07-25-2011 02:55 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
I've seen that before and it was proven fake if im not mistaken.

orangekid 07-25-2011 04:18 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2131732)
I've seen that before and it was proven fake if im not mistaken.
Nope,

If you know anything about Cotulla then you know it's not fake.

He single handedly wrote a custom bootloader for the HD2, ported WP7 to the HD2 with 99% of stuff working, wrote HSPL for the HD2 (multiple versions), wrote a custom bootloader for the TP2, and successfully got the Android kernel working on a snapdragon device (that didn't ship with Android).

The screenshot of the the RSPL hack on the HD7 is real. Once you hack the bootloader of a WP7 device, porting Android isn't that hard, especially since it has almost identical hardware to the HD2.

I wouldn't be surprised to see WP7 devices dual-booting Android soon.

DavidinCT 07-26-2011 08:20 AM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2131752)
I wouldn't be surprised to see WP7 devices dual-booting Android soon.
I, like Eric, thought there was some questioning on how real it was. If it was running, was it dual booting or was it only running Android ? I guess time will tell when something is released.

Oh, I want 6.5 and WP7 :)

Still cool if it works...

orangekid 07-26-2011 08:49 AM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidinCT (Post 2131970)
I, like Eric, thought there was some questioning on how real it was. If it was running, was it dual booting or was it only running Android ? I guess time will tell when something is released.

Oh, I want 6.5 and WP7 :)

Still cool if it works...

For the moment just flashed to NAND via RSPL,

I think he is fixing MAGLDR to be a universal bootloader for all devices.

We all thought the HD2 running WP7 video was fake too...


But enough of that, the point is that I do think dual-booting will happen soon, probably after official Mango release.

And yeah, can't wait for official Mango RTM!

rajraju131 08-06-2011 02:41 AM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
I installed it so I could run that backup tool, and everytime I tried to run the update it would say "UpdateWP.exe has stopped responding...".

Whats the error, can some one help me...

steveo70 08-14-2011 04:32 AM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
@DavidinCT

It's so easy, a "vodka drunken caveman" could do it. Too bad I can't enjoy the spoils 'til tomorrow but thanks to you, @eric12341, @dtrush, and @GoodThings2Life, @esqueue, and others I've missed I'm now "Mango'd"

DavidinCT 08-14-2011 10:29 AM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by steveo70 (Post 2137408)
@DavidinCT

It's so easy, a "vodka drunken caveman" could do it. Too bad I can't enjoy the spoils 'til tomorrow but thanks to you, @eric12341, @dtrush, and @GoodThings2Life, @esqueue, and others I've missed I'm now "Mango'd"
I'm glad we could help your addiction ! :)

steveo70 08-14-2011 01:16 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
All I got is WOW. Side note..I do like now that keyboard finally has function while on the web. up/down arrows now scroll and back arrow button works.

GoodThings2Life 08-15-2011 06:30 AM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rajraju131 (Post 2135536)
I installed it so I could run that backup tool, and everytime I tried to run the update it would say "UpdateWP.exe has stopped responding...".

Whats the error, can some one help me...
Uninstall the UpdateWP utility, reinstall Zune, reboot, run Zune once (including syncing your phone), then reinstall UpdateWP... had the same issue until I did that.

DavidinCT 08-15-2011 02:01 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Mods, this thread was for the beta version, now we have a thread for the RTM, shouldn't this one be closed ?????

eric12341 08-15-2011 02:49 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
I dont think so because we still have people installing the beta. I personally would rather wait for the final especially because there's really no difference between it and the last beta. is there public transit directions in this leaked final?

deadwrong03 08-15-2011 09:12 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
i still havent made the jump yet but for those who are on the latest mango build how is the facebook chat holding up in the messages tile? is it reliable facebook chat app opposed to im plus

Dr.8820 08-15-2011 09:34 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
If Mango isn't released in September as rumored, I'm going to flash the beta...I'm just waiting on word of someone getting it officially, because I know how to force the update thru Zune :D.

GoodThings2Life 08-15-2011 10:27 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Doc, seriously, crap or get off the pot, lol! The Mango release is fantastic! :)

To answer about Facebook chat, it has been pretty awesome... well, as awesome as FB chat can get given its own unreliable nature. In other words, it works great, but it's only as dependable as the other person's ability to stay connected if they're navigating the site. But I only use it for short times, because I'm too afraid of draining my battery (I should actually test it sometime).

eric12341 08-15-2011 11:15 PM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoodThings2Life (Post 2137981)
Doc, seriously, crap or get off the pot, lol! The Mango release is fantastic! :)

To answer about Facebook chat, it has been pretty awesome... well, as awesome as FB chat can get given its own unreliable nature. In other words, it works great, but it's only as dependable as the other person's ability to stay connected if they're navigating the site. But I only use it for short times, because I'm too afraid of draining my battery (I should actually test it sometime).
@GoodThings2Life it doesn't seem to have any noticeable effect on battery life. so go ahead and have it on.

steveo70 08-16-2011 02:03 AM
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I agree Doc! I kept saying the same thing til I couldn't take it anymore. Every time I use my phone, I find something new. All I can say is WOW.I could personally run Mango beta til my next update next spring. It's that good. I understand the reservations though. Fortunately, I Don't use FB chat to notice any unreliability. Only use FB to contact long distant family. My no1 gripe is still the 160 character text limit. Mango lets me type an extended message but wont let me send it. UGGHH

Dr.8820 08-16-2011 02:17 AM
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See, that's why I'm scared lol! Nodo will break down the 160 limit, and send it as 2 or 3 texts if needed.

steveo70 08-16-2011 02:22 AM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.8820 (Post 2138042)
See, that's why I'm scared lol! Nodo will break down the 160 limit, and send it as 2 or 3 texts if needed.

If "the c**e" or "E**w" doesn't scare you nothing should :^o lol!

Dr.8820 08-16-2011 02:24 AM
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Get to the chopper!! :D!

steveo70 08-16-2011 02:28 AM
Re: Want WP7 Mango today ?
 
evacuate! abort! edited for national security!


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