Originally Posted by afolayan702 (Post 2043080)

Oh snap what do we have here?
HTC Arrive and Kyocera Echo bow for Sprint? -- Engadget

Originally Posted by testacon (Post 2044393)

Here's my 2¢...

Microsoft can dump 1 or $10 Billion into advertising until it's blue in the face, this phone won't be anywhere near as successful as the iPhone or Android is so they need to release it with WiMax or LTE variant radios to stand a chance.

The iPhone has a specific user base so they'll take it 2G, 3G or otherwise (yes they're crazy like that) and Android has a specific user base as well AND it's already available in WiMAX now and very soon for LTE. Microsoft is going to need to have some gimmick that has to be better than just promoting the OS with a measly 5,000 apps, compared to the 200,000 that Apple and Android has.

As I said before, I won't be a beta tester for Microsoft and this OS is just too new for me, if they drop it into 3G only phones after waiting 3+ years, you might as well wait until the hardware catches up with 4G because Android already has it, the iPhone 5 might have some new radio by the summer, so why give Microsoft anything for coming in last place with technology that THEY chose themselves when they decided to closed the platform down as they did.

I'm still very curious to see what happens now, but I just feel that they waited to long to produce so little that they have been left behind in the competition. These phones must have something "WOW" like that the others don't, to stand out or else they will lose sales. WiMAX and 4G are limited releases right now so this is more or less the only time left to strike.

The only other thing to mention is that, with all the carriers extending the time for upgrades, every day Microsoft and the carriers delay releasing this phone, more and more people are signing up for another 20 to 24 month contracts so it's going to be a slow 2 years for Microsoft no matter what happens.

Originally Posted by Kliptik (Post 2044799)

You made a couple valid points. Keep in mind though, that MS isn't stupid. They have TONS of people doing marketing and research on this, and it goes WAY beyond the PPCG or XDA communities. In all reality, we are the minority. And seeing as these communities will find ways to hack and customize whatever they put out anyways, why would they put a whole lot of weight into our opinion?

Also keep in mind that MS doesn't just barge into a market, blow up the competition right off the bat, and own it until the next big thing. They take it over slowly, methodically, and it sticks.

Also, while it's true that people are signing new 24 month contracts all the time, people are also finishing contracts at about the same rate, so it's a wash.

So while we would all (myself included) would like to think that we know better than MS, at the end of the day MS is a multi-billion dollar company, and we're just a few people that don't own multi-billion tech companies.

Originally Posted by afolayan702 (Post 2045900)

The troubling factor to me is that there is no information to suggest there will be more than 1 phone to chose from either sprint or verizon at launch. No real rumors or pics to suggest otherwise.