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climberyao 10-22-2009 06:48 AM

Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
the ppc i am using is motorola E6, but last day I found a chinese website, where has many PPC .they are not only multifunctional but cheap.
check this :www.epathchina.com
what do you think?

drewcam888 10-22-2009 08:53 AM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
they are junk

climberyao 10-22-2009 08:55 PM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drewcam888 (Post 1253756)
they are junk


have you used one ?

[sammich] 10-22-2009 11:18 PM

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They are cheap knock-offs. None of them are official devices. Notice the screen shots - not Windows Mobile, nor do they mention the name of the device.

k_semler 10-23-2009 02:37 AM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by climberyao (Post 1253674)
the ppc i am using is motorola E6, but last day I found a chinese website, where has many PPC .they are not only multifunctional but cheap.
check this :www.epathchina.com
what do you think?

Legitimate Manufacturer: Clean room environment, static gaurds, even nicotine use is prohibited by employees, Tested procedure of reliabilty, reasonably reilable OS. Operates on approved GSM/CDMA frequencies

China Manufacturer: Some guy sitting out on his front porch cobbling together something that works, his front porch is facing a main thoroughfare that would barely classify as an alley in first world terminology, Throws a bunch of ICs from different scrap phones together using acidic soldier and a second hand PCB. No sterilization available. "Testing" consists of powering it on, and if it powers up, it ships to market. OS is whatever you can find to put on it without any testing on the hardware, Unlisenced device. May cause interference in other electronic devices.

As an old saying goes: "You get what you pay for."

climberyao 10-23-2009 04:01 AM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by k_semler (Post 1257041)
Legitimate Manufacturer: Clean room environment, static gaurds, even nicotine use is prohibited by employees, Tested procedure of reliabilty, reasonably reilable OS. Operates on approved GSM/CDMA frequencies

China Manufacturer: Some guy sitting out on his front porch cobbling together something that works, his front porch is facing a main thoroughfare that would barely classify as an alley in first world terminology, Throws a bunch of ICs from different scrap phones together using acidic soldier and a second hand PCB. No sterilization available. "Testing" consists of powering it on, and if it powers up, it ships to market. OS is whatever you can find to put on it without any testing on the hardware, Unlisenced device. May cause interference in other electronic devices.

As an old saying goes: "You get what you pay for."



gee, how do you know that ? you are really the master

drewcam888 10-23-2009 09:06 AM

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What are you talking about? People are so random lately.

mulhiny 10-23-2009 11:33 AM

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Ok, to the OP..this is primarly a CDMA site and the site you recomended is all GSM. I ask you OP, what carrier are you on? Point us to the phones that will work with Sprint and VZW.

climberyao 10-23-2009 09:06 PM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drewcam888 (Post 1257361)
What are you talking about? People are so random lately.


tell me more, i am interesting

gprimr1 10-23-2009 09:44 PM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
Any website that advertises an MP5 player is a fraud.

[sammich] 10-25-2009 11:11 PM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gprimr1 (Post 1259293)
Any website that advertises an MP5 player is a fraud.

Win. :-P

k_semler 10-26-2009 10:37 PM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gprimr1 (Post 1259293)
Any website that advertises an MP5 player is a fraud.

They have a robot that can man a sub-machine gun? Sweet. :) I want one. :D

Noir 10-27-2009 08:19 AM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
well i have used a chinese ppc the meizu m8
its...not bad

Hypnotic2010 10-27-2009 08:33 AM

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I have also played around with one of those knock off Iphones. They do work, not great resolution, generic UI, the loudest 2 speaker speakerphone I have ever heard, and of course will only work with sim card gsm carriers. But you and everybody else will know its just a knockoff toy, but still fun.

nemoshotyany 10-27-2009 10:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gprimr1 (Post 1259293)
Any website that advertises an MP5 player is a fraud.

/agree

esqueue 10-28-2009 10:31 PM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gprimr1 (Post 1259293)
Any website that advertises an MP5 player is a fraud.

As funny as this statement is, it is 100% true.

cfong 11-20-2009 10:27 AM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by k_semler (Post 1257041)
Legitimate Manufacturer: Clean room environment, static gaurds, even nicotine use is prohibited by employees, Tested procedure of reliabilty, reasonably reilable OS. Operates on approved GSM/CDMA frequencies

China Manufacturer: Some guy sitting out on his front porch cobbling together something that works, his front porch is facing a main thoroughfare that would barely classify as an alley in first world terminology, Throws a bunch of ICs from different scrap phones together using acidic soldier and a second hand PCB. No sterilization available. "Testing" consists of powering it on, and if it powers up, it ships to market. OS is whatever you can find to put on it without any testing on the hardware, Unlisenced device. May cause interference in other electronic devices.

As an old saying goes: "You get what you pay for."

That's a vivid picture you have been painting. I don't know whether it is true. But if someone could make a product (albeit a buggy one) and manage to sell it, then kudos to his resourcefulness and creativity. All products starts this way. Microsoft started from a garage also. When these Chinese manufacturers accumulate enough capital, build their clean rooms, they'll kick some series ass, don't you think?

cfong 11-20-2009 10:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by climberyao (Post 1257129)
gee, how do you know that ? you are really the master

He thinks he is the master. As an old adage goes, you opponent's contempt is your biggest asset.

By the way, even the iphone is made by Chinese manufacturer.

cfong 11-20-2009 10:33 AM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by climberyao (Post 1256063)
have you used one ?

Can you provide some evidence to substantiate you claim? Chances are you phone is made in China.

drewcam888 11-20-2009 11:53 AM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
Actually my phone is made in Taiwan but consider this.
My phone actually has WM on it or at least a legal copy. Not some generic OS
My phone has gps and wifi which 99% of cheap chinese phones do not
My phone can be warrantied at a store in US and in my town.
My phone doesn't contain a analog TV tuner like 95% of the cheap chinese phones on here or ebay which is totally useless in the US now.
And the other issue is that most of the stuff on that site is in not OEM but fakes made to look real.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfong (Post 1346783)
Microsoft started from a garage also. When these Chinese manufacturers accumulate enough capital, build their clean rooms, they'll kick some series ass, don't you think?

I don't see this happening

And above all of this is a mute issue to me since I am CDMA which means I can not activate a cheap none carrier tagged phone without illegal activities

imtjnotu 11-21-2009 12:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gprimr1 (Post 1259293)
Any website that advertises an MP5 player is a fraud.

PURE EPIC WIN hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that is going in my sig somewhere hahahha

[sammich] 11-21-2009 05:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imtjnotu (Post 1349068)
PURE EPIC WIN hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that is going in my sig somewhere hahahha

That is one of the best quotes ever. I chuckle every time I think of it :D

Hmm... maybe we can make a "Best PPCG Quotes Thread!" I'll go do it now.

pesok 11-21-2009 07:45 PM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
i dont know about PPC's from this site but a friend of mine has a indash car unit from this site that he got for around $200 and it looks better and has more functions than a $900 alpine unit. So far he had it for about 6 month with no problems, cant beat dvd/cd/mp3 player with 2 usb inputs, remote and slide out 5" touchscreen for under $200 shipped. I have a Chinese knockoff iPhone and although its not iPhone(not even close) with the right ROM it runs pretty decent and cost me about $60 on ebay(brand new, dual sim and unlocked(well they never are locked to start with))

snoozii 11-22-2009 05:30 PM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
Well the kind of testing that is done on these phones are far from truly legit manufacturers.. Legit manufacturers spend a heck lot of time abusing these phones to make sure they don't fall apart after a few months use.

Knockoffs "usually"(when it comes to phones) are made with crappy material(this I know firsthand) and the radiation levels far surpass what the FCC "allow" from what I've heard. Other than that.. if your phone breaks for some reason, you're usually left without a warranty or any signs of customer service at all. Oh yeah also the exploding batteries..

Link to NYT here, but parts of it seems one sided so I don't know whether the high radiation part is really true, or if the batteries really have a higher chance of exploding just because they are fakes.

For fun, I'd probably get one. As my main phone? I would really rather not deal with the hassle.

My .02

kabuk1 11-23-2009 07:07 AM

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I would totally sport one of those WinMo 6 "iPhones" just for the WTF factor. I've always liked the iPhone form factor but I don't like Apple & their locked-down BS. If I could get WM on one that'd be uber-cool.

Damn I'm thinking about ordering one now. They actually look pretty cool!

gazment 11-23-2009 10:58 AM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
A buddy of mine has a knock off iPhone from some eastern country and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. He walked into the ATT store and activated it no problems and saved a few hundred dollars in purchasing the phone to boot. Don't go knocking the knock offs their are some pretty damn good ones out there.

However, i'm not sure if a knock off sprint would work unless you were to take a clean esn from a similar OEM device (thats junk) and program the phone with it before activation. Which is probably what is happening.

MrObvious 11-23-2009 12:14 PM

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...and is illegal.

k_semler 11-23-2009 07:46 PM

Re: Dare to use chinese PPC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cfong (Post 1346783)
That's a vivid picture you have been painting. I don't know whether it is true. But if someone could make a product (albeit a buggy one) and manage to sell it, then kudos to his resourcefulness and creativity. All products starts this way. Microsoft started from a garage also. When these Chinese manufacturers accumulate enough capital, build their clean rooms, they'll kick some series ass, don't you think?

Good point. If somebody produces a product that other people actually want and are willing to pay for, then more power to the manufacturer. Yes, eventually they will be large enough to afford sterile manucatruring environments, and then I'll consider the product. However until then, I won't buy. But if they have a market, then more power to them. Do whatever, but I won't likely be buying. I demand a certian level of manufacturing standards, and will not waiver from those standards. It is up to the manufacturer to meet my expectations, not reduce my expectations to meet cheap manufacturers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfong (Post 1346796)
He thinks he is the master. As an old adage goes, you opponent's contempt is your biggest asset.

By the way, even the iphone is made by Chinese manufacturer.

As an old saying goes, "Jack of all trades, master of none", except for PC repair. Even if your PC is a royal POS that won't even start, I can get it back, and you will not lose any data. It might take a day of labor, but I will be able to restore it. As part of PC repair, I am fully aware of the nessecary procedures in order to not unintentionally cause ESD, or contaminate the working surface.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfong (Post 1346801)
Can you provide some evidence to substantiate you claim? Chances are you phone is made in China.

I don't use an iPhone. I use an HTC Touch Pro (GSM). It was made in Taiwan, not the PRC. I will not use a neutered device, or one built for less then the cost of slave labor.


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