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Alksion 09-04-2009 02:59 PM

Htc os?
 
So I was thinking, why doesn't HTC create their own OS. Then I came to thought with all these improvements in Manila and things like the Sense UI, maybe these are testing grounds to see how people like them and then decide later, to create a final OS.

What are your thoughts?

jobot 09-04-2009 03:16 PM

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i cant live with out windows mobile. plus they would have to deal with exchange support.

Alksion 09-04-2009 04:27 PM

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Hmm.. well you havnt given htc a chance yet.

BigDiesel07 09-06-2009 02:37 PM

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It's easier to create and code Touch Flo or Sense UI then create your own OS..

SporkLover 09-06-2009 07:29 PM

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Same reason that Dell, HP, Lenovo, or Acer don't create their own OS. They are hardware manufacturers. It is much easier for them to focus on the core of their business and partner with another company (MS) for the software and OS.

It is this type of relationship that personal computing was founded on. It's how MS got it's big break. IBM made the computers, MS sold a licensed DOS to IBM.

gprimr1 09-06-2009 11:04 PM

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Also once you create an OS, you have to create applications to run on it.

Alksion 09-07-2009 12:06 AM

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I understand it is not an easy task, but they do seem interested in some type of UI, so maybe an entire OS

MikeElGiga23 09-07-2009 12:59 AM

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i always wanted something like this to happen and thought on how it would look and feel. bottom line... when i saw the first htc hero video JACKPOT!! htc and the android os looks so good together and mesh so well that it looks like an htc os overall

SporkLover 09-07-2009 09:49 AM

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me thinks that people forget what an OS is. UI is just that, its the interface the user uses to interact with the operating system. The operating system is the software that controls the hardware. It does it so applications Don't have too.

The OS exists to control the hardware and to make it easy to write applications.

In short a glossy and pretty UI != an OS. It is an application package running on top of the OS.

Back on subject. I am wary of stovepipe operations. A company that builds and designs handsets, designs the OS, and controls the Software development /third party applications tend to turn me off. All the way up to the Iphone, this type of approach yielded pretty crappy UI's and buggy software. IMO it also seems to stymie innovation. Again, the Iphone being the exception. Palm did this for a long time and became a big fat failure until the Pre breathed some interest back into the company.

I like different providers for hardware, OS, and applications. There tends to be more innovations, and cutting edge technology in those arrangements.

sadthai 09-07-2009 06:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SporkLover (Post 1145910)
me thinks that people forget what an OS is. UI is just that, its the interface the user uses to interact with the operating system. The operating system is the software that controls the hardware. It does it so applications Don't have too.

The OS exists to control the hardware and to make it easy to write applications.

In short a glossy and pretty UI != an OS. It is an application package running on top of the OS.

Back on subject. I am wary of stovepipe operations. A company that builds and designs handsets, designs the OS, and controls the Software development /third party applications tend to turn me off. All the way up to the Iphone, this type of approach yielded pretty crappy UI's and buggy software. IMO it also seems to stymie innovation. Again, the Iphone being the exception. Palm did this for a long time and became a big fat failure until the Pre breathed some interest back into the company.

I like different providers for hardware, OS, and applications. There tends to be more innovations, and cutting edge technology in those arrangements.


very well said

k_semler 09-07-2009 10:12 PM

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Personally, I would love to have a phone that ran Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop as the OS, (and had an Ix86 processor). The capabilities of the phone would be virtually unlimited, and anything I needed could easily be aquired with apt-get. Now that would be my dream phone. :). I don't think it's ever going to happen though.

BigDiesel07 09-07-2009 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by k_semler (Post 1147165)
Personally, I would love to have a phone that ran Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop as the OS, (and had an Ix86 processor). The capabilities of the phone would be virtually unlimited, and anything I needed could easily be aquired with apt-get. Now that would be my dream phone. :). I don't think it's ever going to happen though.

While neat, all the hardware drivers would need to be written, memory would have to be vastly upgraded (Like running it off the SD Card), and it would have to be written to run on an ARM Processor...

k_semler 09-07-2009 10:28 PM

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which is why I want an Ix86 processor. :)

SporkLover 09-07-2009 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by k_semler (Post 1147197)
which is why I want an Ix86 processor. :)

Battery life would be 2 seconds.

If you want Linux/unix derivative OS, why not an Android phone? The possibility is already there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android...ting_system%29

Alksion 09-08-2009 03:42 PM

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All very interesting..

k_semler 09-08-2009 08:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SporkLover (Post 1147265)
Battery life would be 2 seconds.

If you want Linux/unix derivative OS, why not an Android phone? The possibility is already there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android...ting_system%29

Because I want apt-get which is found in Debian and systems derived from Debian. Currently, there are over 32000 applications available for Debian x86, and if I run a new system besides WinMo, I want not only customisability, (so iPhone is out), but also application availability. (so SymbianOS is out).

SporkLover 09-08-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by k_semler (Post 1149567)
Because I want apt-get which is found in Debian and systems derived from Debian. Currently, there are over 32000 applications available for Debian x86, and if I run a new system besides WinMo, I want not only customisability, (so iPhone is out), but also application availability. (so SymbianOS is out).

Ahh. While there isn't a Debian based Phone OS, you can run Debian from within Android. Debian supports ARM EABI, which is the underlying architecture for Android. I've seen over on the android forums that they have Jail Broken HTC G1's running debian, and there are even instructions for folks who want to use some of the more popular GUI's. It's a small screen so I'm not sure how useful that is.... but it's amazing that with a little tweaking these little phones can run the same software / OS as full blown desktops.

k_semler 09-08-2009 10:37 PM

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Would I be able to apt-get OpernOffice.org3-enuUS in Debian for ARM? I would love the apt-get repository available, but I wouldn't want a neutered version of it. If I could have a full *nix distribution on my phone, that would truly kick ***. :) It would be like a pocket laptop, but fully featured. :)

SporkLover 09-09-2009 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by k_semler (Post 1149986)
Would I be able to apt-get OpernOffice.org3-enuUS in Debian for ARM? I would love the apt-get repository available, but I wouldn't want a neutered version of it. If I could have a full *nix distribution on my phone, that would truly kick ***. :) It would be like a pocket laptop, but fully featured. :)

Not sure on the specific application, but I'm sure you can dig up that answer on the Android forums (not on this site). It really appears that the folks over there have made leaps and bounds into getting full featured Linux distro on their phones. Me, while I find that sort of thing neat and useful to some, I don't need, so I don't really delve that deeply into those topics so I can't describe anymore than what I have already conveyed..

I'm sure if they have gotten most of your popular GUI's up and running on Android phones (KDE, GNOME, etc), certainly they have Open Office.

One of the greatest features of Android being based on Linux is your control over the command line. Once the phone is jail broken, the possibilities seem endless.


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