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walla 11-22-2010 09:50 AM

What the hell were the designers thinking?
 
I had noticed that Microsoft started placing a huge start button, contacts button etc on the bottom. Now the bar on the bottom has doubled in size and the there is space left on the top bar.

Why Microsoft -- why? That's one of the main reason I steer away from new rom updates. I like the two bars (top and bottom) to be as thin as possible like in 6.5. I can't believe the Chefs are embracing this ridiculous and pointless design update (which rolled out long time ago).



http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u4616...nd_edition.jpg

gTen 11-22-2010 09:53 AM

Re: What the hell were the designers thinking?
 
M$ goal with 6.5.3 was to make it more finger friendly...most chefs offer 2 versions...6.5 and 6.5.3

GirlGoneGeek 11-22-2010 12:18 PM

Re: What the hell were the designers thinking?
 
to each his own i guess. i think it looks sort of cool ;)

AZTECHKA 11-22-2010 12:32 PM

Re: What the hell were the designers thinking?
 
The Touch is 6.5.3 capable?
Cool...

Anyway... I still have my old touch... My son uses it to watch movies on (he's 4) And even he has to bust out the stilus just to be able to navigate to and pick the right movie on file explorer... The bigger buttons seem as though it would make things a bit easier to use without the need for a stilus.
p.

DavidinCT 11-22-2010 08:03 PM

Re: What the hell were the designers thinking?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walla (Post 2000579)
I had noticed that Microsoft started placing a huge start button, contacts button etc on the bottom. Now the bar on the bottom has doubled in size and the there is space left on the top bar.

Why Microsoft -- why? That's one of the main reason I steer away from new rom updates. I like the two bars (top and bottom) to be as thin as possible like in 6.5. I can't believe the Chefs are embracing this ridiculous and pointless design update (which rolled out long time ago).


Someone had a post around here with a file that makes the lower button clear, still about the same size but, the clear ones look so much better.

I tried to look for the link before posting but, could not find it. When I had my titan, the first thing I would install after installing a 6.5.3+ build would be installing that.

I too, really hate the look of those lower buttons (start/contacts, etc)

2 Bunny 11-22-2010 10:07 PM

DESIGN FAIL Reply
 
WM6.1 FTW! I thought I was the only person on here who preferred 6.1 over 6.5. To be honest, maybe it was a good thing MS discontinued Windows Mobile before it slid too much further downhill. 6.1 was definitely its peak, and I hate all the 6.5+ nonsense.

IMO. If you compare the resolution of a VGA or WVGA device with your computer monitor (say if you're posting or viewing unresized screenshots), you'll see just how much space is wasted when we make it "finger friendly". Who's stupid idea was that anyway? I can navigate about 95% of the WM6.1 "finger unfriendly" GUI without problem. I can get a whole lot more done without unrolling miles of toilet paper looking for whatever oversized button is necessary to complete a trivial task.

Back in the day of QVGA Screens, we were able to do so much with so little, and now we have screens four times larger (and then some), and we can't fit half the buttons on the screen that we could've before. If I were to pin blame for this whole "downhill slide" in the mobile market in general since 2005 or 2006 or whatever, I would blame Apple with their Apple phone. Why people think that this needed to be copied, I do not know. Since someone still saw the need for "appz" and "hacking" and "customization", Android, the child of Windows Mobile and Apple Operating system was born. This is why Android grew so quickly. Even if it isn't the best, its all anyone has come up with to bridge that "Apple Google Bridge". Like it or not, for better or for worse, Android is the future.



And that's all I gotta say about that...

- 2 Bunny

DavidinCT 12-03-2010 05:38 PM

Re: DESIGN FAIL Reply
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2 Bunny (Post 2001067)
WM6.1 FTW! I thought I was the only person on here who preferred 6.1 over 6.5. To be honest, maybe it was a good thing MS discontinued Windows Mobile before it slid too much further downhill. 6.1 was definitely its peak, and I hate all the 6.5+ nonsense.

<snip>

And that's all I gotta say about that...

- 2 Bunny

Don't get me wrong I didn't really care for the stock look of 6.5.3X but, 6.5 I loved. 6.1 is a joke compared. 6.5 gives 6.1 a finger frendly interface, 6.1 you NEED a sylus to use it.

6.5= 6.1 with a finger frendly interface

6.5 really does blow away 6.1...

2 Bunny 12-03-2010 08:16 PM

PERSPECTIVE Reply
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidinCT (Post 2006873)
Don't get me wrong I didn't really care for the stock look of 6.5.3X but, 6.5 I loved. 6.1 is a joke compared. 6.5 gives 6.1 a finger frendly interface, 6.1 you NEED a sylus to use it.

6.5= 6.1 with a finger frendly interface

6.5 really does blow away 6.1...

To be honest, I use my hand most of the time in 6.1. I only use a stylus if I am setting the device on a table. Its all in how you use it, right? ☺

- 2 Bunny

austin420 12-03-2010 08:19 PM

Re: PERSPECTIVE Reply
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2 Bunny (Post 2006987)
To be honest, I use my hand most of the time

- 2 Bunny

whooo. i dont know if id admit that!

AZTECHKA 12-03-2010 08:26 PM

Re: What the hell were the designers thinking?
 
I use a stilus, a pen, a pencil, a paperclip, a coin, a rusty nail... Whatever the heck is around. My monkey hands doen't get along with 6.1 or 6.5 I want to upgrade to 6.5.3 Just don't wanna get away from a stock rom... Might be time to flash though.
p.

2 Bunny 12-04-2010 05:29 PM

FIX Reply
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2006993)
whooo. i dont know if id admit that!

I use a stylus sometimes. How 'bout you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZTECHKA (Post 2006996)
I use a stilus, a pen, a pencil, a paperclip, a coin, a rusty nail... Whatever the heck is around. My monkey hands doen't get along with 6.1 or 6.5 I want to upgrade to 6.5.3 Just don't wanna get away from a stock rom... Might be time to flash though.
p.

The nice thing about custom ROMs is the absence of retarded carrier logos on Startup/Shutdown.

- 2 Bunny

boredandtattooed 12-05-2010 12:41 PM

Re: FIX Reply
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2 Bunny (Post 2007397)
I use a stylus sometimes. How 'bout you?



The nice thing about custom ROMs is the absence of retarded carrier logos on Startup/Shutdown.

- 2 Bunny

easily deleted... startup480x800.gif welcomecomehead.192.png... theres your carrier splash screens.... though Custom roms merely just replace them with Chef IDs and other splashes, so whats the difference really... only way to get completly rid of it is to cook a ROM withOUT HTC Animation...

ACtually most of the problems mentioned are are fixable if you wanted to learn enough to fix it

2 Bunny 12-05-2010 05:22 PM

THERE IS A CAB FOR EVERYTHING Reply
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boredandtattooed (Post 2007736)
easily deleted... startup480x800.gif welcomecomehead.192.png... t

Actually, the stock file explorer won't let you delete those. But, its good motivation to switch to a custom ROM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by boredandtattooed (Post 2007736)
ACtually most of the problems mentioned are are fixable if you wanted to learn enough to fix it

"There's a CAB for that"...

- 2 Bunny

horndoctor 12-05-2010 07:33 PM

Wirelessly posted (htc Pocket PC: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11) Sprint MP6950SP)

IMO
6.1 is faster and more stable than 6.5 which I will take any day over some more finger friendly menus.

shaggylive 12-05-2010 08:33 PM

Re: What the hell were the designers thinking?
 
I like most of the finger friendly changes, most specifically the change to tab'ed windows. but I do whole heatedly agree with the op on the top and bottom bars. while I could see a slight change, I don't like how the top bar is so tiny now, you can't hardly click a status icon to bring up the new bigger notification menu.

stylus free since 2007 (makes a handy reset stick though)

Dude111 12-10-2010 12:20 AM

I have noticed the quality of almost EVERYTHING goes down with every update (AND THE DISGUSTING PART IS: THEY THINK ITS BETTER)

boredandtattooed 12-10-2010 02:41 PM

Re: THERE IS A CAB FOR EVERYTHING Reply
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2 Bunny (Post 2007865)
Actually, the stock file explorer won't let you delete those. But, its good motivation to switch to a custom ROM.


- 2 Bunny

you dont need a custom ROM, just RESCO or Total COmmand file explorers... it will let you edit/replace those


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