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LG Fathom ArcSoft client removal...
So... i recently purchased an LG Fathom, being originally turned on by the fact it has a snapdragon and 256mb of mem. The phone is a fantastic example of what can be done with WinMo 6.5.3 when OEM's dont muck it up.
However, as usual an OEM has to make a mistake here and there... this phone ships with an ArcSoft client for both SMS and MMS. which for lack of another word, is down right horrid for SMS. No threading, search, spell check, bla bla bla. i am pretty versed in winmo haxing. However im kind of hitting a brick wall trying to figure out how to point the OS to use Tmail instead of the arcsoft nubness... if i figure anything out ill report back... |
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Oh god, please find a way to fix this. I don't understand how a phone company can release a phone without threaded sms when I had threaded sms 3 years ago on my samsung i760.
Holy hell, way to take a step back LG. |
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So yeah, im not getting anywhere at all... i assume the following needs to be done.
Change shortcut on Titanium home screen. Change URI handlers. Add account profile in Tmail for SMS. anybody have any ideas? any help would be appreciated... |
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1. If you click on tmail in your /Windows folder, does it open or redirect you to the other program.
2. Do you have the ability to dump your rom using dskdump.exe? http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000-...0/dskdump-2-0/ |
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I get an "error reading disk" when I try dskdump.exe
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Are you able to find the original rom by doing the following:
Install Microsoft's Network Monitor** (its free - netmon from now on, im lazy ) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en Close all your browser windows, instant messenger, email, anything that uses the network should be stopped while you do this. Start netmon, and tell it to capture all the traffic on your network card. Then start the lg-updater program (get it from lg directly), and have it check for updates for your phone. Go back to network monitor and stop capturing traffic when it's done. **If you're familiar with wireshark you could use that instead of netmon. *Credit for write-up goes to xdapants on xda.* |
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Try looking at one of the HTC registry hacks that is used to disable HTC messaging... I'd think this would be the same registry key you'd need -- basically tell Windows to use default SMS.
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This worked!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...+HTC+Messaging just one thing, i think it breaks MMS... im still testing though... stay tuned! -=cLs=- |
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No i didnt... Im still trying to sort out some remaining issues with my previous post.
For instence... Some of the popup buttons still point to the arcsoft client, and the popup that says you have x amount of txt msgs doesnt go down when you mark them as read in Tmail. |
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Also, if you set arcsoft to not save sent messages, tmail doesn't either. Very odd. |
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Does Google Maps and Bing Nav work? |
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Settings/Personal/Phone/CDMA Services/GPS - Get Settings/Location On -- Went back to Google Maps and after about 30 seconds, "Seeking GPS satellites (0)..." changed to "GPS active (4)" Magically, the updated Bing for Verizon's Privacy Policy now actually loads. Pressed Accept. Validating Authorization Status flashed by and then Permission to Locate came up after accepting the ToS. Pressed Done to accept the default access time (24x7). Pressed Save at the Privacy Summary. Unless Bing uses triangulation as a fallback as well, I think the GPS is working in there too. Hope that relieves your concerns as well and we can get back to the topic at hand-- removing the dreaded Arcsoft client. Anybody tried messing around with the Settings/System/Memory/Clear Storage/Custom Configuration to see if it has any clues on removing the Arcsoft? The Tips, Hints and Shortcuts manual states, "This will erase all data and install the enterprise's custom configuration." |
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umm, when i first realized what was going on and how complicated this was going to be to remove. i did a hard reset on the phone then i remembered that wm6.5.3 doesnt have a presetup. so all the stuff doesnt "install" like it did in the older roms upon first startup. my above link sorta works, like 95% of the way. however, there are still a few anomalies... like, if you hit the reply button in the pop up for a "new" txt... it takes you to the arcsoft client. also, for some reason the number of "new" texts in the pop up doenst go down till you run the arcsoft client and it "sees" that they are read. |
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Worked great on my touch pro. You guys sure it isn't using your data? In b4 asking me how I don't pay for data/have it disabled. No need for it so it's gone from my life. |
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HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgType s\IPM\Note\DLL HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgType s\IPM\SMStext\DLL HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisabled |
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HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgType s\IPM\SMStext\DLL = htmlnote.dll Could not find the last key -- HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisabled -- got as far as OEM. There were no other keys under OEM and the only values under OEM were: SMSEnableCallback = 1 SMSEnablePriority = 1 |
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ArcSoft Powermobia Message website lists the following feature:
Thread message mode (optional feature), list, create, send and receive all SMS and MMS in one conversation for each contact So maybe threading in Arcsoft Powermobia Message 5.5.11.34 is possible? Just a matter of finding out what the right setting / registry key is and setting it? I've made a post on the Arcsoft General forum... we'll see if there's any response. |
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Has anyone had any luck on removing the ArcSoft POS?? You all atleast still seem to be able to get text messages through tmail.exe... I can't even do that. If I add a recipient via contact in Powermobia, it attachs a birthday instead of a phone number. I have a reg editor. Does anyone know even how to get SMS in tmail if it's not there? I'm so frustrated I think I could cry.
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My guess so far, is that to get rid of Arcsoft, one will need to find copies of all the original Microsoft files (the WM 6.5.3 versions). Possibly use those Microsoft files to build a .cab that will overwrite the Arcsoft files (turn-about is fair game) when installed. |
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There is an update available to go from vs750zv4 to vs750zv5 from the LG website either here:
http://www.lg.com/us/mobile-phones/v...are-update.jsp as "LGMobileUpdate.exe" at 250KB or here: http://www.lg.com/us/support/mc-supp...ne-support.jsp as "B2CAppSetup.exe" at 246KB I chose to use the LGMobileUpdate.exe Windows 7 x64 Before: START/SETTINGS/ABOUT CE OS 5.2.23103 (build 23103.5.3.3) START/SETTINGS/SYSTEM/SYSTEM INFORMATION Windows Mobile 6.5 5.2.23103 Apr 7, 2010 HW Rev 1.0 SW Version VS750ZV4 PRL 51920 ERI 5 MESSAGING ArcSoft Powermobia Message 5.5.11.34 Installed the LG Mobile Update.exe which installed a bazillion LG USB drivers Ran the LG Mobile Support Tool and chose to update but it said the phone was already at the latest version. Closed it out. Ran LG Mobile Support Tool again and chose to update. It saw the phone and the Update button was now reddish. Chose to Update. It tried to install even more drivers-- notably: LGE CDMA Composite USB Device (Ready to Use) LGE CDMA USB Modem (Failed) LGE CDMA USB Serial Port (COM10) (Ready to Use) Finally the update proceeded After: START/SETTINGS/ABOUT CE OS 5.2.23121 (build 23121.5.3.6) START/SETTINGS/SYSTEM/SYSTEM INFORMATION Windows Mobile 6.5 5.2.23121 Jul-5-2010 HW Rev 1.0 SW Version VS750ZV5 PRL 51920 ERI 5 MESSAGING ArcSoft PowerMobia Message 5.5.11.50 Still exploring to see what else is different; didn't really keep track of any other version numbers to compare, so if anyone else is going to upgrade, try to jot down what your current version apps are. The General tab of the PowerMobia Message does have an option for Threaded Inbox (YAY!) we'll see how it looks when I accumulate enough messages (too bad WinMo does not save SMS when syncing)... hopefully they fixed the friggin PowerMobia send from contacts bug where it was stuffing birthdates into the To: field |
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I'm not sure if the CDMA/GSM Services settings stay after a rom upgrade, but I set my GPS to location on so that i can use it in v4, and it seemed to have stayed on or maybe v5 turns it on by default now?
also did it group office mobile 2010 in a folder before? |
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Also, V4 has Office Mobile 2007 (aka 6.1). Can you please confirm that V5 does indeed have Office Mobile 2010? |
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vs750zv5 has Microsoft Office Mobile 2010 14.0000.23121
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Thanks for the info on the update. Nice to have threaded texts!
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interestingly ebough i just discovered that my lg fathom bo longer uses arc soft and now uses the default windows one with threaded texts
iit for some reason creates a thread with my number that has all the sent txt msgs and doesnt have contact names but their phone number bu this is still a lot faster than arcsoft the message chome goes to windows threaded msgs now and if i were to find a contact and send message it uses windows new message thing im not sure what i did that made this happen as i hadnt been directly trying to get it working but it may have something to do with restoring my messages using spb backup with or without overwriting but i remember that it used arcsoft for a while after words also perhaps it had something to do with installing chinese fonts though i really only found it after going through each mail account i had and all of a sudden all of my sms msgs were there in "secureMSGstorage" oh and i installed skype for winmo speak of the devil it somehow reinstated itself after pressed reply after a sms notification popped up |
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Sorry to bump this thread with this but I feel like the only person in the world with this phone...did Verizon lock out the GPS? I can't get Igo8 working for the life of me. Worked fine on my TP2.
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You do have the "Location" CDMA Service option in the Phone setup section, set to "Location on", true? |
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Bahahhaha, it took me 3 days of non-stop research but I figured it out:
Add this to sys.txt: [device] type="SGH-i900" It now works with the Fathom! Hilarious but it works As a sign of gratitude, if anyone can explain how to get rid of this Arcsoft crap I'd appreciate it greatly. This phone is perfect except for that. The links posted are for removing HTC customizations so I'm not sure why people say it worked for them. |
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The update program can be found here: LG Official Service or here: Mobile Phone Support The VS750ZV5 update also upgrades from Office Mobile 2007 to Office Mobile 2010. And yes, the update will completely wipe your phone to a factory state, so back up all your stuff. Caveat: According to LG, the installer is supposedly temperamental; it worked fine with my first brand new Fathom on my Windows 7 x64 :toothy10:machine. However, to address a wireless issue (from since I first bought the phone), Verizon replaced it with a Certified Like New phone (2nd Fathom) which does not take the upgrade from either my Windows 7 x64 machine or any of my Windows XP 32-bit machines :banghead:. I received my second replacement (my 3rd Fathom so far) yesterday and it also does not take the update from either Win 7 x64 or Win XP 32-bit:banghead:. I've seen one other post in the LG Forum to show that perhaps it's an issue with the Certified Like New phones rather than the installer:dontknow:. I'm thinking perhaps I should have documented some of the hardware identifiers in case these are a specific batch. Your Mileage May Vary. |
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Anyway, I had the same issue as you updating my phone, and mine is brand new. The program kept constantly saying I had the latest update even though I didn't. Honestly I forgot how I fixed it, I think I plugged and unplugged the phone a thousand times before it took. But it did work, so don't worry. The updater program just sucks. Lets just hope custom ROMs come out for this phone soon. I don't know why it doesn't; I love everything about the Fathom more than the Touch Pro2 so far. It's so damn fast, there's no lag at all. |
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yup i agree, it's much more usable except for it having so little ram
arcsoft is just barely tolerable with it being so slow to start up every time... i somehow disabled it once i think by doing a spb backup and restore for device upgrade but replace system files too? from tp2 but i'm not sure if that was really what caused it it some how came back though when i clicked like send a text message via context menu on a contact, or reply on a notification, i can't remember |
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I might have a solution. I cannot test it on my fathom, yet, but I am wondering if someone else would be willing to.
First: run the two patches found here : http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/lg-fathom/...animation.html that are for removing the Arcsoft stuff and switching to pOutlook for SMS. as the thread says: no MMS. This _sounds_ like a problem, but it's the WinMO default to not include an MMS client. Removing Arcsoft from the phone results in you removing the MMS client as well. So... we need just an MMS client. Sadly, the only one I know of that works well with 6.5 is an Arcsoft one, but since it's just MMS, it can't be too bad. I googled "Verizon MMS 6.5 .cab" and found this: imnuts Threaded Verizon ArcSoft MMS 5.2.12.62.cab - 4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download If it work, we have "Fixed" the Fathom. If it really works, someone could whip up a .cab file to fix our Fathom woes. Sorry for such a delayed reply. I must be the last crazy person who hasn't decided that winPhone7 is supposedly better... and has stuck with their fathom. -pizzaboy192 |
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