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beestea 05-19-2010 01:22 PM

Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
Has anyone ever tried to run HTC's wifi sharing software for an extended amount of time/days? I've used it alot on my Touch Diamond and find that eventually (3-4 hours) it heats up the phone/battery and then the battery stops charging resulting in the phone shutting off.

I am trying to find out if anyone has used a CDMA/Sprint phone to do this 24x7.... I know its a strage request but I am trying to give my old Sero plan to a relative who will only use it for Data. This is the only type of broadband they can get where they live and not only that but I will need to position the phone (and maybe use external antenna) in a specific spot for a consistant signal.

Maybe there is a phone I could use off of power supply only with no battery? Anyone else do something similar?

Obviously the proper way to do this is via data card and 3g cdma router, but that route will be about $24/month more, plus equipment costs.

orangekid 05-19-2010 01:43 PM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beestea (Post 1762031)
Has anyone ever tried to run HTC's wifi sharing software for an extended amount of time/days? I've used it alot on my Touch Diamond and find that eventually (3-4 hours) it heats up the phone/battery and then the battery stops charging resulting in the phone shutting off.

I am trying to find out if anyone has used a CDMA/Sprint phone to do this 24x7.... I know its a strage request but I am trying to give my old Sero plan to a relative who will only use it for Data. This is the only type of broadband they can get where they live and not only that but I will need to position the phone (and maybe use external antenna) in a specific spot for a consistant signal.

Maybe there is a phone I could use off of power supply only with no battery? Anyone else do something similar?

Obviously the proper way to do this is via data card and 3g cdma router, but that route will be about $24/month more, plus equipment costs.


I've heard of someone doing that, you may need a new battery, or you could put the phone upside-down and point a fan at it with the back door off, and just use USB tethering instead of wifi tethering. (or do the same thing plugged in with wifi tethering if you need it positioned far from the PC)

jbearamus 05-19-2010 08:30 PM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
^^^ +1
you can do it you'll just have to find something to keep it cool

monkeyboy 05-21-2010 03:43 PM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
Get a simple Peltier module to cool the Diamond.

or I believe a Mogul runs cooler... they should be pretty cheap now...

georgepa 06-02-2010 07:40 PM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beestea (Post 1762031)
Has anyone ever tried to run HTC's wifi sharing software for an extended amount of time/days? I've used it alot on my Touch Diamond and find that eventually (3-4 hours) it heats up the phone/battery and then the battery stops charging resulting in the phone shutting off.

I am trying to find out if anyone has used a CDMA/Sprint phone to do this 24x7.... I know its a strage request but I am trying to give my old Sero plan to a relative who will only use it for Data. This is the only type of broadband they can get where they live and not only that but I will need to position the phone (and maybe use external antenna) in a specific spot for a consistant signal.

Maybe there is a phone I could use off of power supply only with no battery? Anyone else do something similar?

Obviously the proper way to do this is via data card and 3g cdma router, but that route will be about $24/month more, plus equipment costs.

1. You can use the Diamond, Mogul and other phones to tether. The problem is the battery. It depends how you use the internet. If you go mostly to sites to read (i.e. Google News, Howardforums, etc.) then you should not run out of battery juice faster than you can charge via USB or AC adapter. If you browse a lot of streams (video, radio, Youtube, etc.) then you are using more battery than you can charge, resulting in shutdown. There is ONE phone available (only that one) that you can tether to a computer, then take the battery out and run solely on AC adapter or USB (which prevents the battery overheating issue,) and that phone is the Sprint HTC Touch. All other phones will shut down as soon as you remove the battery, so the HTC Touch might fit the bill.

2. If you only use data you can go with Boost CDMA's Pay-as-You-Go account. You can move the HTC Touch, HTC Mogul, HTC Touch Pro, HTC Touch Pro 2 and other Sprint phones into Boost CDMA and pay only $10 over a 90 day period. So, for $3.33 per month you get unlimited 3G data on the Sprint data network. Talk is 10 cts. per minute and texts are 10cts., but 3G data is unlimited and included.

GirlGoneGeek 06-03-2010 11:54 AM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
You'd look super cool with a fan on your phone 24/7 ;)

jbearamus 06-04-2010 01:35 AM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
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Originally Posted by Courtney1985 (Post 1788991)
You'd look super cool with a fan on your phone 24/7 ;)

don't forget the block of ice!

GirlGoneGeek 06-04-2010 01:16 PM

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oops, and the ice would just make it even more sexier :D

MordyT 06-04-2010 08:06 PM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
Got to keep it cool. I remember no2chem had a thing that prevented the battery from auto-stopping to charge. Something about it stops charging cause of the processor, not the battery itself, and that his toll overwrote the shutdown.

UTSAFTW 06-05-2010 03:37 AM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
On my Touch Pro I've gotten it to work for a good 12 or so hours (I haven't tried beyond that) a couple of times by doing what orangekid said. They should be similar enough in design that turning it upside down, taking off the battery cover and pointing a fan at a high enough rate of speed should keep it from overheating.

Mswezey 06-05-2010 12:53 PM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
i run my touch pro wifi sharing 2 days straight before, fell asleep with it on. kept the suck on its docking station. gets pretty damn hot though, oh well lol

you can try the fan trick, but as the phone has a very limited surface area, (no fins), it's not gonna help that much

jbearamus 06-05-2010 12:57 PM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
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Originally Posted by Mswezey (Post 1794137)
no fins

SOLUTION! we need to attach fins to the back! make the diamond into some kind of hedgehog!

Mswezey 06-05-2010 01:46 PM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
lmao.

well you could, but plastic is not a good conductor of heat. i think its a better insulator actually...

tryptik 06-05-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Courtney1985 (Post 1791560)
oops, and the ice would just make it even more sexier :D


Liquid cooled ?

haha

shaggylive 06-05-2010 04:21 PM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mswezey (Post 1794137)
i run my touch pro wifi sharing 2 days straight before, fell asleep with it on. kept the suck on its docking station. gets pretty damn hot though, oh well lol

you can try the fan trick, but as the phone has a very limited surface area, (no fins), it's not gonna help that much

on my tp1 I had cut a slot to remove the card without removing the cover. well I accidentally made my first cuts on the wrong side fo the cover so I ended up with holes on both sides of the cover. I found that if I kept it tilted up, natural convection worked wonders at keeping the phone just cool enough to stay alive.
otherwise I would simply take off the battery cover and set the phone on a old cpu heat sink.

tryptik 06-05-2010 07:09 PM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggylive (Post 1794637)
otherwise I would simply take off the battery cover and set the phone on a old cpu heat sink.


Haha, i would love to see pics of someone do that.. So Ghetto !

Wesley762 06-09-2010 07:16 PM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
No dry Ice comments yet?

Mswezey 06-10-2010 03:46 PM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
lol would the battery like the dry ice?

Wesley762 06-10-2010 05:41 PM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mswezey (Post 1807131)
lol would the battery like the dry ice?

I don't know but running it 24/7 would not make it a happy camper ether lol.

gTen 06-11-2010 01:06 AM

Re: Running HTC Wifi Sharing 24x7
 
I have used it htc wifi tethering 24/7 for years(all wifi tethering as before I used wmwifirouter)...*waits for applause..or boos whichever floats your boat*....


I'll tell you this, I have used ppc6700, mogul and a tp2 for tethering...
the overheating is caused by charging and large amount of discharging at the same time...a TP2 handles heat so far the best out of what I used..(TP2 I was able to get away with just placing it on a metal object and it keeps cool 24/7)

And yes I do mean 24/7 as there are days I don't get to sleep at all FML

If your gonna tether get a TP2..it should be cheap enough used and it definitely runs cooler then other phones..and just place it on any metallic surface..this will act as a heat sink for the fan...I tried this with mogul for example, the mogul needed a fan..it overheats too much..

The TP2 has a smart system to temporarily stop charging and the turn back on which is better on the battery...it gets bad when its 90-100 degrees outside and 100% humidity but thats what the metallic surface is for.

I couldn't be happier with a tp2 as a tethering device..well except it don't have 4g :(


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