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NIKKG 07-16-2010 03:28 PM

This is why they diss iphone
 
Direct quote from Jobs:

"It's human nature to want to find a successful organization and bring them down, Jobs said. "I see it happening with Google, people trying to tear them down. And I don't understand it... what would you prefer? That we were a Korean company, that we were here in America leading the world with these products... maybe it's just that people want to get eyeballs on their sites."

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...things_up.html

gTen 07-16-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NIKKG (Post 1869111)
Direct quote from Jobs:

"It's human nature to want to find a successful organization and bring them down, Jobs said. "I see it happening with Google, people trying to tear them down. And I don't understand it... what would you prefer? That we were a Korean company, that we were here in America leading the world with these products... maybe it's just that people want to get eyeballs on their sites."

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...things_up.html

Yes..Steve Jobs will know all about trying tear down Google...

NIKKG 07-16-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1869117)
Yes..Steve Jobs will know all about trying tear down Google...

Well, I'd rather support an American company than HTC, Samsung, LG and the rest of the Asian clan thats not headquartered here.

gTen 07-16-2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NIKKG (Post 1869126)
Well, I'd rather support an American company than HTC, Samsung, LG and the rest of the Asian clan thats not headquartered here.

at this point it makes no difference where your stationed...people call it "American Companies" but most of the work they do is outsourced anyways...

As for hiring US workers I'm sure Samsung and LG have as many here in the US as Apple does...

They are all evil..and trying to figure out which is less evil is a silly game..

austin420 07-16-2010 03:37 PM

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:angry7:nobody in the last 3 threads we have all been entertaining this afternoon have dissed the iphone. i thought we were having a nice shit talking free afternoon in the iphone forum i guess i was wrong.:angry7:

NIKKG 07-16-2010 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 1869139)
:angry7:nobody in the last 3 threads we have all been entertaining this afternoon have dissed the iphone. i thought we were having a nice shit talking free afternoon in the iphone forum i guess i was wrong.:angry7:

I didn't imply it for us, its just so many tech sites that even mention the iphone, you get the fanboys coming out doing Iphone vs Android threads, its getting annoying. You can't even read comments anymore without idiots taking snipes at one another.

It really gets old after a while.

orangekid 07-16-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 1869139)
:angry7:nobody in the last 3 threads we have all been entertaining this afternoon have dissed the iphone. i thought we were having a nice shit talking free afternoon in the iphone forum i guess i was wrong.:angry7:

I think he just means the general attitude of some Evo users and such who want to feel important by dissing the iPhone. Both of you guys haven't been blindly saying "it sucks" but giving some pretty good criticism, although I think you'd be less harsh if you actually owned one for a week or two.

And gTen, you know I'm all about that Vibrant now anyways :)

NIKKG 07-16-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1869136)
at this point it makes no difference where your stationed...people call it "American Companies" but most of the work they do is outsourced anyways...

As for hiring US workers I'm sure Samsung and LG have as many here in the US as Apple does...

They are all evil..and trying to figure out which is less evil is a silly game..

Actually this stuff does matter. Why do you think this country is messed up. We outsourced everything we had. Even though the manufacturing might be outsourced, the company headquarted here still has alot of office people, engineers, accountants etc here. Go see how many Americans LG, Samsung, and HTC employs compared to Apple, M$ and Google who are headquartered here.

gTen 07-16-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NIKKG (Post 1869147)
I didn't imply it for us, its just so many tech sites that even mention the iphone, you get the fanboys coming out doing Iphone vs Android threads, its getting annoying. You can't even read comments anymore without idiots taking snipes at one another.

It really gets old after a while.

Thats cause they are fanboys..if anything most people on this site don't care one way or the other about the iphone and rather don't like Apple's "closed standards"..just like I'm not to happy in the direction Motorola is going with Android..


To me the most agitating thing was the fact that the hardware on the iphone is better then the presumably "pocket computers" aka WM and Android...then I feel embarrassed when someone from the Android/WM calls out to say how their hardware is better then the iphone(showing ignorance).....its sad how junky hardware specs these "Super phones" have...

This is one reason I like the Galaxy S..FINALLY a device that matches and/or surpasses the iPhone's hardware on a pocket pc operating system..

austin420 07-16-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 1869158)
I think he just means the general attitude of some Evo users and such who want to feel important by dissing the iPhone. Both of you guys haven't been blindly saying "it sucks" but giving some pretty good criticism, although I think you'd be less harsh if you actually owned one for a week or two.

And gTen, you know I'm all about that Vibrant now anyways :)

i use my dads 3gs every time im at his office. ive played with them. ive felt em, touched em, tasted em. ive got an ipod touch for both of my kids. im not saying anything shitty about apple or iphone. if you really want to see whos talking crap, look at who started the "hahah iphone4 sold more than evo" thread about an hour ago. in my thread in this iphone forum, i even said they make a good product with a good mp3 player and good video software with a good app store. what part of that is crap talking or saying it sucks?

NIKKG 07-16-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 1869169)
i use my dads 3gs every time im at his office. ive played with them. ive felt em, touched em, tasted em. ive got an ipod touch for both of my kids. im not saying anything shitty about apple or iphone. if you really want to see whos talking crap, look at who started the "hahah iphone4 sold more than evo" thread about an hour ago. in my thread in this iphone forum, i even said they make a good product with a good mp3 player and good video software with a good app store. what part of that is crap talking or saying it sucks?

I started that thread of the 3,000,000 to show that with all the trash being talked about it, it still sold 10 times as much as EVO did in only 3 weeks. The fandroids made the EVO to be the best thing the planet has ever seen and it should be selling millions by now.

orangekid 07-16-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 1869169)
i use my dads 3gs every time im at his office. ive played with them. ive felt em, touched em, tasted em. ive got an ipod touch for both of my kids. im not saying anything shitty about apple or iphone. if you really want to see whos talking crap, look at who started the "hahah iphone4 sold more than evo" thread about an hour ago. in my thread in this iphone forum, i even said they make a good product with a good mp3 player and good video software with a good app store. what part of that is crap talking or saying it sucks?

yeah like I said, it's more of the general "iphone sucks and I've got an Evo muwhahahaha" attitude.

not directly towards you.

gTen 07-16-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NIKKG (Post 1869159)
Actually this stuff does matter. Why do you think this country is messed up. We outsourced everything we had. Even though the manufacturing might be outsourced, the company headquarted here still has alot of office people, engineers, accountants etc here. Go see how many Americans LG, Samsung, and HTC employs compared to Apple, M$ and Google who are headquartered here.

Well actually Samsung employees more ppl in the USA then Apple..but mostly cause they do more then just cellphones...

I'd rather not turn this into an economical discussion as it will be a lot of typing...in the end I assure you its no different...

austin420 07-16-2010 04:13 PM

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did you know its true that 10 workers in taiwan killed themselves while chained to their iphone slave tables where they assemble them as an act of rebellion rather than be forced to work long hours chained to a table and have to sleep under said table while other workers are slaving on the other shift?
edit:sorry for the long sentence and this is not directed in a mean way at apple or iphones!
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/64063,...uicide-factory
Foxconn is not a sweatshop. It's a factory -- but my gosh, they have restaurants and movie theaters... but it's a factory. But they've had some suicides and attempted suicides -- and they have 400,000 people there. The rate is under what the US rate is, but it's still troubling. We had this in my hometown of Palo Alto, copy cat suicides. We're over there trying to understand this. It's a difficult situation.



orangekid 07-16-2010 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1869196)
Well actually Samsung employees more ppl in the USA then Apple..but mostly cause they do more then just cellphones...

I'd rather not turn this into an economical discussion as it will be a lot of typing...in the end I assure you its no different...

yea let's not get into all that stuff,

and also it's fair to point out that Samsung makes the iPhone A4 cpu, that's why the Galaxy S and the iPhone 4 are similar cpu/gpu-wise. although I have to admit I'll take a super amoled WVGA over a dimmer, less saturated Retina.

gTen 07-16-2010 04:25 PM

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But see NIKKG, it is not only the iphone..when I first posted about the Galaxy S phone..you can see how many ppl responded saying "its no good because it wont have community support"....if you think about it, that would make it similar to Apple where the assumption is if it is not made by HTC the community will just "abandon it"...

The community serves to better what is widely available regardless of brand..to stick to HTC only is a joke...as a community we should take on anything that is worth working on...that is my general consensus...

If anything we let HTC get away with the poor hardware...so it is partly our fault as a community..

orangekid 07-16-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gten (Post 1869232)
but see nikkg, it is not only the iphone..when i first posted about the galaxy s phone..you can see how many ppl responded saying "its no good because it wont have community support"....if you think about it, that would make it similar to apple where the assumption is if it is not made by htc the community will just "abandon it"...

The community serves to better what is widely available regardless of brand..to stick to htc only is a joke...as a community we should take on anything that is worth working on...that is my general consensus...

If anything we let htc get away with the poor hardware...so it is partly our fault as a community..

+1 .

NIKKG 07-16-2010 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1869232)
But see NIKKG, it is not only the iphone..when I first posted about the Galaxy S phone..you can see how many ppl responded saying "its no good because it wont have community support"....if you think about it, that would make it similar to Apple where the assumption is if it is not made by HTC the community will just "abandon it"...

The community serves to better what is widely available regardless of brand..to stick to HTC only is a joke...as a community we should take on anything that is worth working on...that is my general consensus...

If anything we let HTC get away with the poor hardware...so it is partly our fault as a community..

I've been trying to diversify this place and why I've been posting in the iphone forum. This place needs to diversify. If I only care about HTC, I'd go to xda-developers.

elephant007 07-17-2010 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NIKKG (Post 1869126)
Well, I'd rather support an American company than HTC, Samsung, LG and the rest of the Asian clan thats not headquartered here.

HTC American Headquaters
http://www.htc.com/us/about/contact-us

Samsung American Headquaters
http://www.samsungamerica.com/graphics/105dir.asp

LG American Headquaters
http://www.foxconn.com/ContactUs.html
Funny, the company that makes the iPhone is only headquatered in Taiwan, well at least I couldn't find one using Google

I also tried searching for how many Americans each company employs, I was unable to find results though. Everything we buy in one way or another, comes from somewhere other than the US... most components are manufactured overseas by companies that are most likely unionless, the company controls the employees not the employees controlling the company... shoot even Nike is made overseas...
Sure this article is from Wikipedia so take it for what it's worth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike,_Inc.#Manufacturing

Edit:
Correction there are many companies that supply components for the iPhone, it is reported that final assembly is by a Taiwan company named Quanta

fozmsu 07-17-2010 09:03 AM

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You'd be surprised to know how many so called American companies build and assemble out side of the country. My dad bought a Mercury Villager back in the day because it was a Ford product. He was a little pissed when he found out most of the parts came from either Canada or Mexico. Today, there's even Toyotas that are mostly built and assembled in the US. Buy American is really starting to lose it's meaning. Living in Michigan, a lot of people argue that the car may be built here, but the profits go overseas. Does anyone really think all the profits made by the US automakers stays here?

ajac 07-17-2010 06:46 PM

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i diss apple products because steve jobs is a jerk off and I hope htc rim and nokia gang bang him in a court of low for his deformation of character he did to them on friday. Btw steve jobs I can hold my ****ing hummer anyway i want without a ****ing 30 dollar bumper or one of your shitty cases. I hope everyone at apple is ashamed of how their CEO acted. I really wonder how much he got ass ****ed in high school.

fozmsu 07-17-2010 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ajac (Post 1870952)
i diss apple products because steve jobs is a jerk off and I hope htc rim and nokia gang bang him in a court of low for his deformation of character he did to them on friday. Btw steve jobs I can hold my ****ing hummer anyway i want without a ****ing 30 dollar bumper or one of your shitty cases. I hope everyone at apple is ashamed of how their CEO acted. I really wonder how much he got ass ****ed in high school.



Wow! That was both worthwhile and intelligent.

ajac 07-18-2010 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fozmsu (Post 1871035)
Wow! That was both worthwhile and intelligent.

just speaking in the language Steve Jobs seems to understand.

O'Neil Mitchell 07-22-2010 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ajac (Post 1870952)
i diss apple products because steve jobs is a jerk off and I hope htc rim and nokia gang bang him in a court of low for his deformation of character he did to them on friday. Btw steve jobs I can hold my ****ing hummer anyway i want without a ****ing 30 dollar bumper or one of your shitty cases. I hope everyone at apple is ashamed of how their CEO acted. I really wonder how much he got ass ****ed in high school.

That was the laugh I needed this morning, thank you =D>


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