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Naveronski 11-28-2010 11:57 PM

Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
I'm on Sprint, and currently have the TP2.

I have an upgrade, and am tired of all the problems I have with my TP2 and Windows. I'm looking to Android as my (potential) savior.

Does Sprint have something coming down the pipes in the next 1-2 months that's worth waiting for?

Or should I explore the EVO/Epic more throughly?

darren.wlsn1 11-29-2010 12:16 AM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Naveronski (Post 2003794)
I'm on Sprint, and currently have the TP2.

I have an upgrade, and am tired of all the problems I have with my TP2 and Windows. I'm looking to Android as my (potential) savior.

Does Sprint have something coming down the pipes in the next 1-2 months that's worth waiting for?

Or should I explore the EVO/Epic more throughly?

had both the evo and epic but kept the epic and love it. phone keeps getting better too now that froyo is here and official isnt here yet but leaks are sweet.

Naveronski 11-29-2010 08:33 PM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darren.wlsn1 (Post 2003810)
had both the evo and epic but kept the epic and love it. phone keeps getting better too now that froyo is here

I understand this. Thank you for your input.
Quote:

Originally Posted by darren.wlsn1 (Post 2003810)
and official isnt here yet but leaks are sweet.

Can you expand on this, please?

tracsportva 11-30-2010 12:58 PM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
I am in the same boat.
I want to get the evo, I am a sprint premier customer (like everyone else), and well, I was wondering if Best Buy will price match wirefly, or radio shack online ads.
I saw the evo on wirefly for an upgrade price of 119. And even at radio shack its 149.

I want the evo over anything else.

Suggestions, curious?

Ryan

subprime 11-30-2010 01:11 PM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tracsportva (Post 2004639)
I am in the same boat.
I want to get the evo, I am a sprint premier customer (like everyone else), and well, I was wondering if Best Buy will price match wirefly, or radio shack online ads.
I saw the evo on wirefly for an upgrade price of 119. And even at radio shack its 149.

I want the evo over anything else.

Suggestions, curious?

Ryan

Wirefly might be a little difficult to get anyone to price match. I don't know all of the specifics but the agreement for the discount has something to do with paying your bill on time. Read the agreement because I think if you are even a few days late, they have the right to demand full price.

I don't know about Best Buy price matching so I am no help there. I would just call and ask or just buy it from Radio Shack.

I ditched the TP2 for the Evo and never looked back. It just works, exactly as it should, straight out of the box. I've heard good things about the Epic but I try to steer clear of samsung phones from my previous experience.

tracsportva 12-01-2010 10:01 AM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
I want the evo, but cannot afford it.
I saw the optimus and read alot of stuff on it, reviews etc..on sprintusers.

Best Buy will give me the optimus for free.

With the evo though, can you sync up your work emails/calendar ...right now I use microsoft exchange.

I also was curious if you get an optimus if u have access to all the cool apps and app store that is the same with the evo.

I want to pull the trigger today.

BOOM...I am excited.

Ryan

Batmaninthehood 12-01-2010 11:26 AM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
Looking to replace my TP2 as well, but I'm month to month on SERO and wondering if it's worth upgrading my contract and paying $20 extra a month.

rainfreak 12-01-2010 12:06 PM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tracsportva (Post 2005241)
I want the evo, but cannot afford it.
I saw the optimus and read alot of stuff on it, reviews etc..on sprintusers.

Best Buy will give me the optimus for free.

With the evo though, can you sync up your work emails/calendar ...right now I use microsoft exchange.

I also was curious if you get an optimus if u have access to all the cool apps and app store that is the same with the evo.

I want to pull the trigger today.

BOOM...I am excited.

Ryan

The Optimus is running Android 2.2 (FroYo) and will be able to access the Market for all Android apps and games, just like the EVO. Though with a much smaller screen and likely a slower CPU and lower memory, I couldn't tell you what it could run successfully.

I use my EVO to sync with my company's Exchange server, as well as Gmail and two personal email accounts (my own mail server).

I got my wife the Epic and I have the EVO. I love the EVO and haven't seen another phone come out on Sprint yet that I would dump my EVO for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batmaninthehood (Post 2005273)
Looking to replace my TP2 as well, but I'm month to month on SERO and wondering if it's worth upgrading my contract and paying $20 extra a month.

Simply put, for me, absolutely. But your opinion and financial situation may be different.

tracsportva 12-01-2010 01:10 PM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
Thanks
Right now, I think the optimus will be faster and more effective than the tp2, I am frustrated with the tp2 and windows mobile that the apps are so lacking :(
I will go to best buy today and get the optimus, and then do the whole ebay thing if I want the evo...or something better.

Ryan

yankees45us 12-01-2010 02:31 PM

Some managers at best buy will price match radio shack and walmart. I would check your local best buy store. Best way to do it is say you want the evo or epic and go through all the steps if getting it, then when its time to pay for it make them price match. If they say no then walk away and they may back down and give you price you want. I've done this before and usually the manager can ovveride any price to make the sale. If not then just order it online. Right now I think if you go through facebook you can get it for $68 new account or 119.99 for renewal. Or get it on newegg. I think they have a low price also. Just shop around. But try best buy first.

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tracsportva 12-01-2010 04:32 PM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
I would love the evo, tried at 2 best buys and would not get them to budge on teh 199 price.
I think I am gonn a suck it up and get the optimus for free, and then trick it out for a while, like I did with my tp2....

I will get a new phone soon, prob get the evo once the dust has settled.

Ryan

Oditius 12-02-2010 01:55 PM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tracsportva (Post 2005451)
I think I am gonn a suck it up and get the optimus for free, and then trick it out for a while, like I did with my tp2....
Ryan


My daughter has the LG Optimus S from Sprint. Personally I am not impressed. I have the HTC Desire from USCC, with it's 1ghz CPU and it is definatly faster than the 620mhz in the Optimus. Plus also the optimus doesn't have the Adobe Flash 10.1 on it either, and it isn't in the market for it. I know there is a way to install it, but it is a pain to do, I've tried several times but always fail. I would recomend you keep the TP2, I think with the tweeks I did on mine, it was probably faster than the Optimus. I love the Desire, but even with it being rooted and having a custom 2.2 rom on it, it no way can have anywhere near as many apps on it as my TP2 with the same 16gb SD card. At least don't go into a contract till you can afford a faster phone with more storage.

boredandtattooed 12-04-2010 12:50 PM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
Day 2 with an Optimus and everythings great... it has the same GPU as the EVO, just a slower processor(600).... havent had one thing lag on it yet.. camera has no flash though.. and obviously the forward facing camera is on the Optimus T(TMO) and not the Optimus S(Sprint)...

But ANgry Birds runs fantastic.. Youtube looks beautiful(load times depend on your converage obviously)...Onscreen keyboard is nice and responsive... Live Wallpapers work extremly well also.... all-in-all, it will give you the FULL Android experience, without breaking your wallet right before christmas

bigmain06 12-05-2010 03:39 PM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
I to am leaving the Touch Pro 2 and would like to know what's the best choice between the Epic and Evo...

NSTar 12-05-2010 05:25 PM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
me 3 but I"m for a new gen phone. my tp2 is so f'd up now, I don't think I can wait...grrr

chardog 12-05-2010 09:18 PM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oditius (Post 2005954)
My daughter has the LG Optimus S from Sprint. Personally I am not impressed. I have the HTC Desire from USCC, with it's 1ghz CPU and it is definatly faster than the 620mhz in the Optimus. Plus also the optimus doesn't have the Adobe Flash 10.1 on it either, and it isn't in the market for it. I know there is a way to install it, but it is a pain to do, I've tried several times but always fail.

I would expect the desire to be faster, but how much faster is it really?

to put into perspective:

Recently, many phones that feature MSM7x27 or MSM7x25 processors have been released to the market. They are often marketed as low-end, featuring "only" 600MHz (for MSM7x27) or 528MHz (MSM7x25). Sounds pretty pathetic, right?

Not really.

If you only look at their clock speeds, 600/528MHz doesn't sound impressive. In fact, thats hardly an improvement over notoriously slow MSM7200 series processors used by HTC G1, Magic and Hero.

But there are some key differences:

Unlike MSM7200 series processors, MSM7x27/MSM7x25 are built for smartphones. The processor unit contains a floating point unit, a 400MHz modem processor, a 320MHz application DSP, and a real dedicated GPU to perform 3D accelerations and video encoding/decoding. Does it sound just like Qualcomm's high end Snapdragon processors?

You bet.

Lets look at some benchmark numbers for the phones that feature MSM7227:

..........
  • HTC Legend (running Android 2.1): 392
  • LG Optimus GT540 (running Android 1.5): 445

(Source: http://smartphonebenchmarks.com )

And the following are the phones that use the outdated MSM7200 series processors:

  • HTC G1 (running Android 1.5): 181
  • HTC Magic (running Android 1.5): 200
  • HTC Hero (running Android 1.5): 201
  • HTC Droid Eris (running Android 2.1): 211

(Source: http://smartphonebenchmarks.com )

As you can see, MSM7227 series phones are significantly faster! Why is that?

Lets look at what Quadrant benchmark measures:

  • CPU
  • Memory
  • I/O
  • 2D graphics
  • 3D graphics


Quadrant benchmark application measures the overall performance of your phone. Given that the CPU component hardly received any improvement over MSM7200 series, it is natural to conclude that other areas received significant improvements. One area in particular, is the GPU. MSM7227 features a dedicated GPU called, Adreno 200. This is the SAME GPU that is found in the first generation Snapdragon processors!

Now lets look at the high-performing first generation Snapdragon based phones:

  • Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 (running Android 1.6): 465
  • Dell Streak (running Android 1.6): 469
  • Nexus One (running Android 2.1): 507
  • HTC EVO (running Android 2.1): 510
  • HTC Desire (running Android 2.1): 510
  • HTC Droid Incredible (running Android 2.1): 574


As you can see, although they are faster than MSM7227 phones, not that much faster!

And then there's the screen resolution. Typical Snapdragon phones use 800x480 screen resolution, while most of the MSM7227 phones use 320x480. That's less than half the amount of pixels MSM7227 has to process through. The result? Surprisingly snappy performance out of "lowly" 528MHz/600MHz processor!

There are still some open questions. Snapdragon processors received huge boost in speed when they switched to Android 2.2 (i.e. JIT). Will MSM7227 be able to perform with similar margin of improvements despite featuring somewhat slow (i.e. same as MSM7200 series) CPU core? We will find out soon when we start to receive results for MSM7227 phones with Froyo.

Some current/future phones to use MSM7227 include the following:


Quote:

I would recomend you keep the TP2, I think with the tweeks I did on mine, it was probably faster than the Optimus. I love the Desire, but even with it being rooted and having a custom 2.2 rom on it, it no way can have anywhere near as many apps on it as my TP2 with the same 16gb SD card. At least don't go into a contract till you can afford a faster phone with more storage.
The TP2 has great flexibility, but it's a slow phone, and not nearly as fast as the optimus, I dont care how many tweaks or overclocking you do, it's just not happening. The benchmarks speak for themselves, and if the OP isnt convinced by an article, go into your sprint store and play with it for an hour. I would use the browser extensively and open full web pages when possible, and compare it to your TP2. You'll be amazed how much faster the optimus really is. Opening apps, scrolling through pages, ect. It's a very snappy experience in general, which is reminiscent of the iphones. Scrolling is probably even smoother than the evo(stock).

I dont know why you are comparing apps, it's a widely accepted fact that the android market is bigger than the wm platform.

I think today is the last day to order the optimus s from sprint for free.

One huge advantage it has over the premium phones is the battery life. I can get nearly two full days on my setup, but I have a very tricked out setup which automates a lot of processes, like automatically jump on know wifi networks when possible based on gps location. Evo's/epics have notoriously bad battery life, but I guess the screen makes up for that inconvenience.

I've had my LG for less than a week, and I love this phone. it's easily the best phone I've ever owned.

it does have a few concerning flaws though, no led notifications, no led flash, and photos in 4:3 aspect ratio (though they are decent in quality). Cant select all emails/mark as read.

rockruleslp 12-08-2010 06:46 PM

Re: Sprint - TP2 -> ? Now or later?
 
im also wanting to upgrade my TP2... but ppl at my work already have the evo and i want a phone that they dont have yet... lol...


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