Verizon Touch Pro w/ Mighty Rom - Out of Memory??
 

i have a verizon touch pro with the latest mighty rom. nothing extra than what came with mighty rom.

right now i am at 87% memory. i do have tf3d running
i turn off tf3d and my memory goes to 76%

i reset the device with tf3d enabled and i am at 72%???

usually after a few calls, maybe sending a text or pix msg or browsing net i notice that my memory always jumps up to around 87%. i have my setting to automatically close programs when tapping "x". i have double checked running programs and nothing is there.

my problem is after i use my phone and then try and browse internet or use the album it tells me i am out of memory and to close a program, but i have nothing else running.

is tf3d that demanding????

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it is, plus unlike all the other touch pro's, the verizon model's memory has been significantly reduced. There are alot of verizon users on here, so i'm sure they'll be able to help you or give you other suggestions.

Re: Verizon Touch Pro w/ Mighty Rom - Out of Memory??
 

I think Mikes stock PP is at 24 if you on verizon you may wanna change it to 12 or even lower so you have more ram

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Yep, turn the PP down a bit.

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can you reduce the pagepool after flashing... as in, without hard-resetting and losing everything? I just finished customizing everything, only to run into this same problem of no memory. Stupid verizon. Phone is wicked compared to the 6800, though.

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how do i do that?

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You need to run the program called oddly enough, page pool changer. As far as I know, you cannot change the PP after flashing. It has to be done before flashing.

Run the program, select RUU_signed in the mighty rom folder, lower the PP to probably 12

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I also got upgraded from the 6800 to the 6850 and i also ran into this issue. I have noticed that the Stock Verizon ROM is actually leaking memory. Do most custom roms resolve this issue? because i would do a restart on the phone and i would go down to like 60% and then after ive been using the phone for a few days it creeps up to like 80% and then higher and higher even if i kill all active apps. Right now im at 85% even though i dont have anything open. :-x

Can anyone suggest me a ROM thats as close to stock as possible that fixes this issue? I would reallly appreciate it.
:newb:
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It's not "leaking" it's just the way Windows Mobile works.

All the buffers are not pre-allocated in the OS. Only as you use various features are services started, buffers allocated, etc. Once it reaches 80-85% (for you, for me on sprint 50%) it will stabilize and grow no more.

The 88MB *less* ram that the VZ version has is a fatal flaw (or would be for me, my sprint version has about 90MB free after I've loaded everything up. That would be about 2mb on your VZ unit. That's not good. )

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so is there anything i can do? or do i get rid of tf3d??


is adjusting the PP worth trying?

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See my own thread. its not stabilizing...

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Get rid of TF3D and phone skin . lower PP . You should get +20mb

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Every other TP except Verizon has a 256MB RAM chip...we have a 128MB chip (then there is on processor chip RAM that brings the totals to 288 and 192 respectively, but that's a different story that I don't think anyone fully understands).

So basically we have half the RAM.

I have not used Mighty's ROM, so he may or may not have included a page pool changer with it. A page pool is kind of like the pagefile on your desktop PC. What this number does is reserve that RAM for system use that can make the phone run faster...but if you have less RAM you need it to be lower. Most non-VZW people generally use 24-32MB. For VZW, 12MB seems to be a nice number. Ask in Mighty's thread if there is a changer included.

I personally would suggest trying Scott Crosler's SSK ROM (Link is in my sig). He optimizes it for Verizon and sets it to a 12MB page pool by default. I can guarantee you will find your phone very usable with a good amount of free RAM (50MB at least) after installing his ROM.

Thread link...forgot sig links to his main page:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=56777

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Does this also mean no TF3D?

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That includes TF3D...runs great.

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Im tempted to do it like... now... :thumbleft:

Just a big question... do you have a preferred method of flashing this phone? Because thats my biggest question. Ive flashed other stuff but never a phone.

which CE OS do i need?

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Just remember to unlock first (sticky at the top of this forum)

Then flash the ROM, and hard reset after you have finished flashing (Hold in the center dpad, press reset, and keep holding the dpad untill instructions display on screen).

And I would just ask in his thread if you have any questions...we're quite noob friendly over there....SSK stands for Scott's Simple Kitchen....trying to keep it simple!

He's added some different versions recently...I would recommend the "CE OS 20764 - Built SSK 1.5M - R4R Bonus ROM" to start with. It should be the most stable and standard. Once you are comfortable with that you can try others. Download links are here:

http://www.scottcrosler.com/TouchPro/SSK/index.html

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I ran into this problem as well with my verizon touch pro but I ended up using bored's rom at: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=53527

It'll give you like 55MB's free ram after boot with tf3d

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Do these ROMs like the SSK ROM have Radios built in?

Also after Running Raphael_VZW_HSPL_035 it wont enter boot loader.

It keeps going between sound and shutting down....

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just upgraded to SSK's RUU_1_5_R4R_VZW

Very Nice! 62% Memory w/ tf3d enabled. i will see what that rises to after i use it today.

very nice appreance though!

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You can try my ROM's. They are designed, tuned and tested ON an Verizon phone.

BUt that aside... If you are on VZW you shoudl run a PP no more than 12. Antying else is a waste. I think stock PP of 6 is more than enough if your ROM is tuned. I know this will spark the bioggest debate of all time but.... Its just my observations

Re: Verizon Touch Pro w/ Mighty Rom - Out of Memory??
 

used the phone all day doing different things and right now with CE OS 20764 - Built SSK 1.5M - R4R Bonus ROM
and tf3d enabled memory is at 72%

love the new SSK 1.5

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Lower pgepool to 6 and disable dialer :-)

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Man, I remember these days. It brings back memories of my Mogul. I remember always checking the free memory, and having to close out apps because of it. I love not having to worry about it now with my Sprint Touch Pro! :)

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where can i find instructions on how to adjust page pool?

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I second that!!!! This phone is usable now. Scott you are the MAN!

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Look for the pagepool.exe in the rom file and select the ruu.nbh and change to 6 and then save :-)

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so i will have to flash again?

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I am a verizon user on MightyMike's ROM.. On a fresh boot I'm at 70% RAM utilization, with everything loaded (included TF3D) and MyMobiler. I did change the PP down to 12 before I flashed, this is very easy to do. Argument of why VZW halved the RAM aside, the truth is I can run pretty much whatever I want without hitting the "out of memory" error. As a habit I make sure to always close whatever I'm using when I'm done with it though, so maybe that's part of it. But I've been running with this new ROM for about a week and it works great! Fastest response I've ever seen out of a VZW Touch Pro. SSK's roms are really good to, Mike's just came with more of the customizations I would do myself.

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Is there a rule that PP must be a multiple of 6, or is it just coincidence that everyone is throwing out numbers like 6, 12, 24, etc?

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Scott, At the risk of starting a fresh debate, I am curious why you say 12. I am new to understanding pagepool but wonder why you say it is a waste? Can the OS not use any more?

-TallJason

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Why did Verizon remove so much memory from their Touch Pro? Did it really save them that much money? I know what it feels like to not have enough memory (former mogul user) Poor Verizon users!

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i'm currently running gc's rom ( 2.1.4 ). very fast and good on memory usage. i'm on a sprint tp, but this rom would probably work well on a vzw tp. as long as you set the pagepool relatively low ( i would go with 8 ). after you flash, you can also play with advanced configuration and see what cache numbers work best for you. when i had my verizon tp, i had it set at 4mb filesystem cache, 65536 filter, and 32k glyph.

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i think their plan was to push the tp as a business device (no tf3d), since they were banking on the storm to be their main consumer toy. if you turn off tf3d on the vzw tp, it's actually very usable. kind of an upgrade to the samsung i760. plain, boring, very verizon.

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From what I have understood they didn't REMOVE memory they simply apportioned it to the radio instead of the program memory. Not sure exactly why but I would guess they expect to roll out some new wireless technology in the future that might need that ram for the Radio Rom.

Thats what I have read but Verizon has always in the past been reluctant to let us install a lot of software that would enable us to bypass their PAY services.

Who knows what the real answer is? All I know no matter what answer is correct it will be wasted RAM because even if they intended to add some new wireless service to the radio section at the rate Verizon moves we will all have 10 Ghz phones by then...Right about the time Verizon gets around to releasing the TP2! LOL

For the record I am running MightyRom 4.16 with a 12 Mb PP and the phone rarely gives me an out of memory error.

IF you need more try disabling MS Voice Command.

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I use a Verizon Touch Pro. If you go to the link in my signature I made a posting that optimizes Mighty Rom and answers other questions too. I run my Page Pool at 6 and turn off the HTC dialer and get about 50 megs of Ram Free leaving Voice Command on.

Also I had a heated debate with someone who apparently worked on the Touch Pro Verizon and he said it was because of the battery. They fealt the ram they left in it was sufficient and helped with the battery issues.

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does scotts rom have tf3d2 on it like the touch pro 2? Where did u get it from if it does?