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gTen 06-29-2010 12:16 AM

$10 fee confirmed...(obviously)
 
Notice how they put 69.99 and then 79.99 for final price..aka $10 fee is there..may the drama resume...

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....comparison.jpg

RidleyJ329 06-29-2010 12:31 AM

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does this confirm that its not just an evo thing but instead more closely related to the 4G it self?

gTen 06-29-2010 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ridleyj329 (Post 1843126)
does this confirm that its not just an evo thing but instead more closely related to the 4G it self?

well its hard to say at this point...as we have yet to get a decent device without 4g...but most likely all their top end devices from now on will have 4g...so you'd never really be able to differentiate.

We will most likely know if they happen to release a medium tier device with 4G

The Sapient 06-29-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1843133)
well its hard to say at this point...as we have yet to get a decent device without 4g...but most likely all their top end devices from now on will have 4g...so you'd never really be able to differentiate.

We will most likely know if they happen to release a medium tier device with 4G

I think this is just a gradual move to a new pricing formula. At some point they will stop having an $10 add-on and will raise their regular rates by the same amount.

blazinazn 06-29-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sapient (Post 1843536)
I think this is just a gradual move to a new pricing formula. At some point they will stop having an $10 add-on and will raise their regular rates by the same amount.

If they did that, Sprint would lose a LOT of customers. I'm pretty sure it will never come down to that (but then again this is Sprint we are talking about here). My guess is that if you ever upgrade your phone or change your plan, you'll have no choice but to pay the extra $10.

gTen 06-29-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by blazinazn (Post 1843610)
If they did that, Sprint would lose a LOT of customers. I'm pretty sure it will never come down to that (but then again this is Sprint we are talking about here). My guess is that if you ever upgrade your phone or change your plan, you'll have no choice but to pay the extra $10.

My guess is it will be a "smartphone fee" similar to how metro has it..where you pay $10 more if its a smartphone..

The reason for this fee is also most likely not due to 4G but sprint wanting to be competitive on smartphone pricing....putting up a phone for 350$ while verizon puts it up for 200$ or less with people complaining probably made them make this move....and the EVO was the perfect time to implement it in their view.

outerpip 06-29-2010 01:10 PM

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My best guess is that it is indeed a 4G fee. Last time I heard, Sprint had plans to drop the 69.99 plan to 59.99 if it was needed to compete with T-Mobile's pricing. Also, just 10 extra bucks for much faster net speeds isn't really much out of line, especially if you compare it to other carriers plans. At least Sprint hasn't come out with anything about putting a usage cap on it. *cough* IPhone *cough*

gTen 06-29-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by outerpip (Post 1843805)
My best guess is that it is indeed a 4G fee. Last time I heard, Sprint had plans to drop the 69.99 plan to 59.99 if it was needed to compete with T-Mobile's pricing. Also, just 10 extra bucks for much faster net speeds isn't really much out of line, especially if you compare it to other carriers plans. At least Sprint hasn't come out with anything about putting a usage cap on it. *cough* IPhone *cough*

Sprint decided to release things like boost mobile and etc instead of fighting a price war...right now they don't care about T-mobile..they are aiming at AT&T and Verizon...proof of that being that T-Mobile isn't even on the comparison chart..and they are getting a Galaxy S as well..the one with no keyboard though.

c0011j 06-29-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gten (Post 1843643)
my guess is it will be a "smartphone fee" similar to how metro has it..where you pay $10 more if its a smartphone..


bingo!

The 3G/4G is unlimited also. So 10$ for that and people will be leaving? Cmon .

revaaron 07-12-2010 12:16 PM

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I'm already pissed that I pay $52 for sprint. If I have to pay $10 more a month for a service that I won't use since it won't be in new hampshire for years, I'm going to switch to verizon. I've been on sprint for over 11 years now.

gTen 07-12-2010 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by revaaron (Post 1861886)
I'm already pissed that I pay $52 for sprint. If I have to pay $10 more a month for a service that I won't use since it won't be in new hampshire for years, I'm going to switch to verizon. I've been on sprint for over 11 years now.

Ahm...verizon is going to cost you more anyways..even with the $10 fee...

lafester 07-16-2010 07:36 PM

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yeah but vzw has better phones and a better network.

if the price gets much closer the benefits of vzw will outweigh the cost.

HeXDeMoN 07-21-2010 12:03 PM

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BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE A KICKSTAND HOW CAN THEY CHARGE $10 MORE WHEN IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A KICK STAND!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I demand a kickstand if they expect me to pay $10 more!!

lafester 07-21-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HeXDeMoN (Post 1876482)
BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE A KICKSTAND HOW CAN THEY CHARGE $10 MORE WHEN IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A KICK STAND!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I demand a kickstand if they expect me to pay $10 more!!

lol. but does the screen tilt up with the kb open? guess i haven't noticed.
they know what they can do with their $10 fee!

Jok3sta 07-21-2010 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lafester (Post 1869491)
yeah but vzw has better phones and a better network.

if the price gets much closer the benefits of vzw will outweigh the cost.

not really sure what u mean by better network.. Maybe in your area.. but i have never been anywhere that a verizon phone would get service and i wouldnt.. i have been in places where i do and verizon doesnt though.. But that can just be location based though

themuffinman 07-22-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by revaaron (Post 1861886)
I'm already pissed that I pay $52 for sprint. If I have to pay $10 more a month for a service that I won't use since it won't be in new hampshire for years, I'm going to switch to verizon. I've been on sprint for over 11 years now.

Ok now obviously you are relatively happy with sprint being that you have been with them for 11 years but going to verizon over $10? What comparable verizon plan can you get for $62 a month? Not only that but verizon nickle and dime the hell out of their customers.

derfnoslen 07-23-2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by themuffinman (Post 1878775)
Ok now obviously you are relatively happy with sprint being that you have been with them for 11 years but going to verizon over $10? What comparable verizon plan can you get for $62 a month? Not only that but verizon nickle and dime the hell out of their customers.


I don't think that's the point. We are paying $10 for something that we are not getting. Maybe you live in an area where 4g is active but if you were not I don't think you'd sing the same tune. Yes, Sprint is still cheaper but why do we have to pay for something that we do not have. They can't say, "well.. even if we charge you an extra $10 for nothing we are still cheaper than everyone else". That doesn't justify the charge. Yes Sprint is cheap and has great service, we love Sprint. But why are you charging us for nothing?

It's just the fact that the $10 dollars is being charged for no reason. We don't have acess to 4g, why should we pay for it? Now I've heard somewhere else that the $10 charge gives you access to a premium 3g service that runs on a different line than the current 3g making it faster but Sprint has never stated that. I would kinda be okay with that but God knows when some places will get 4g... paying $10 a month for years and years for nothing is a bit much.

hookahzorr 07-23-2010 08:34 PM

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I understand y they charge it even if its not in your area.

Its because if u just so happen to goto a place or move there u dont get the extra 4g for free.

Thats my logic.

ppcgpirate 07-23-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by derfnoslen (Post 1879556)
I don't think that's the point. We are paying $10 for something that we are not getting. Maybe you live in an area where 4g is active but if you were not I don't think you'd sing the same tune. Yes, Sprint is still cheaper but why do we have to pay for something that we do not have. They can't say, "well.. even if we charge you an extra $10 for nothing we are still cheaper than everyone else". That doesn't justify the charge. Yes Sprint is cheap and has great service, we love Sprint. But why are you charging us for nothing?

It's just the fact that the $10 dollars is being charged for no reason. We don't have acess to 4g, why should we pay for it? Now I've heard somewhere else that the $10 charge gives you access to a premium 3g service that runs on a different line than the current 3g making it faster but Sprint has never stated that. I would kinda be okay with that but God knows when some places will get 4g... paying $10 a month for years and years for nothing is a bit much.

so you rather pay $90 (for 450 mins + 5GB data) on verizon for what you get on sprint? Verizon is also about to implement a data plan like ATT did last month and verizon just reported, it's droid x owners use 5x more data than regular phone user. i guess it wasn't total bs when sprint said, it's charging $10 more for the phone because people will use more data on it.

derfnoslen 07-25-2010 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ppcgpirate (Post 1880808)
so you rather pay $90 (for 450 mins + 5GB data) on verizon for what you get on sprint? Verizon is also about to implement a data plan like ATT did last month and verizon just reported, it's droid x owners use 5x more data than regular phone user. i guess it wasn't total bs when sprint said, it's charging $10 more for the phone because people will use more data on it.

I guess. I mean like you said it's still cheaper. And I love Sprint so I'm not leaving anyway but if you don't have 4g in your area how would you use more data, what if you don't travel. Anyway I'm still going to pay it so I guess it doesn't matter.

testacon 07-25-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by derfnoslen (Post 1882223)
I guess. I mean like you said it's still cheaper. And I love Sprint so I'm not leaving anyway but if you don't have 4g in your area how would you use more data, what if you don't travel. Anyway I'm still going to pay it so I guess it doesn't matter.

Verizon doesn't have 4g coverage at all, yet they speculate that their higher end phones are going to be using 5x more data. These phones will utilizes full flash shortly, instead of showing mobile optimized web sites they will soon be showing you full audio/video embedded links. Froyo will bring wireless tethering built-in if Sprint doesn't find a way to cripple it. How will this NOT be grabbing more data? I'm not thrilled about paying more then I need to but it's better then anything Verizon/AT&T is offering metered. If the fee is too much to handle, buy a android 1.x device that won't be utilizing such media intensive bandwidth.

My biggest complaint to Sprint is their ineffective method of explaining the fee, I figured it out but they made the announcement prior to informing their employees, but this doesn't surprise me in the least. Call 5 different reps with a question and you'll get 6 different answers, and no that wasn't a typo...

gTen 07-25-2010 07:47 PM

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The best way to explain the 10$ fee is by using the info where they told us people with SERO will be able to use an EVO for 20$ more..and an android for $10 more..

so here is how it goes...

Low End - regular
Medium End - $10
High End - 20$

so the $10 fee is nothing more then a High end fee..this fee is what they use to lower the costs of the device to be competitive with verizon and AT&T on device costs..similar how a TP2 on sprint cost 350$ while on Verizon it cost 200$ and ppl were complaining to sprint of it being unfair..in a way we reaped what we sough...

derfnoslen 07-26-2010 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1883061)
The best way to explain the 10$ fee is by using the info where they told us people with SERO will be able to use an EVO for 20$ more..and an android for $10 more..

so here is how it goes...

Low End - regular
Medium End - $10
High End - 20$

so the $10 fee is nothing more then a High end fee..this fee is what they use to lower the costs of the device to be competitive with verizon and AT&T on device costs..similar how a TP2 on sprint cost 350$ while on Verizon it cost 200$ and ppl were complaining to sprint of it being unfair..in a way we reaped what we sough...

No, this fee is not for that. They are not using that fee to lower the costs of the device. This fee will continue long after the difference has been made up. If you'd had the phone for 3 years your still going to be paying the $10 fee. That's not right.

I don't care about $10 dollars but Jesus, tell us what the charge is for.

derfnoslen 07-26-2010 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by testacon (Post 1883028)
Verizon doesn't have 4g coverage at all, yet they speculate that their higher end phones are going to be using 5x more data. These phones will utilizes full flash shortly, instead of showing mobile optimized web sites they will soon be showing you full audio/video embedded links. Froyo will bring wireless tethering built-in if Sprint doesn't find a way to cripple it. How will this NOT be grabbing more data? I'm not thrilled about paying more then I need to but it's better then anything Verizon/AT&T is offering metered. If the fee is too much to handle, buy a android 1.x device that won't be utilizing such media intensive bandwidth.

My biggest complaint to Sprint is their ineffective method of explaining the fee, I figured it out but they made the announcement prior to informing their employees, but this doesn't surprise me in the least. Call 5 different reps with a question and you'll get 6 different answers, and no that wasn't a typo...

We all know Sprint prices are great, that's not an issue. It's the lack of detail concerning the fee, it's bullcrap! Again, I could care less about $10 bucks if it's valid. But there are some holes in Sprints fee plan here.

Everyone just seems to buy the "well, go to verizon or at&t" or get a lower end device... that's not the point. what the hell is the fee for? why am i being charged for 4g when it will not hit my market for late NEXT year. Why do I need to pay for that?

gTen 07-26-2010 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by derfnoslen (Post 1884736)
No, this fee is not for that. They are not using that fee to lower the costs of the device. This fee will continue long after the difference has been made up. If you'd had the phone for 3 years your still going to be paying the $10 fee. That's not right.

I don't care about $10 dollars but Jesus, tell us what the charge is for.

It is for that..your looking at it from a perspective of "Cutting even"..aka your expecting sprint to stop after 2 years...in reality it has never been like that..let me explain...

Every device that was on Verizon was always cheaper then on Sprint..mostly high end devices...on sprint a TP2 cost 350$..on verizon 200$.and ppl called up threatening to switch to Verizon if sprint does not lower theirs to match Verizon's price...now does Verizon take away and match sprint monthly price once you pay out the item?

You have to look at ti from both sides....over 2 years the price ends up 240$ extra...

now lets assume the device costs 440$ based on 200 + 240....

sure over 3 years you would loose out..but who uses a phone for 3 years?

they are not targeting the smart buyer, they are targeting the average consumer who likes to see cheaper devices even if it is more monthly fees...

If your expecting sprint to make a policy around ppl paying full price or buying on ebay or using their device more then 2 years would make it more complicated for sprint with no gain...

Also, the system can still be exploited by buying an EVO at 200$ and then not using it and switch back to an old phone..now sprint just lost 200$ :/

testacon 07-27-2010 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen (Post 1884758)
It is for that..your looking at it from a perspective of "Cutting even"..aka your expecting sprint to stop after 2 years...in reality it has never been like that..let me explain...

Every device that was on Verizon was always cheaper then on Sprint..mostly high end devices...on sprint a TP2 cost 350$..on verizon 200$.and ppl called up threatening to switch to Verizon if sprint does not lower theirs to match Verizon's price...now does Verizon take away and match sprint monthly price once you pay out the item?

You have to look at ti from both sides....over 2 years the price ends up 240$ extra...

now lets assume the device costs 440$ based on 200 + 240....

sure over 3 years you would loose out..but who uses a phone for 3 years?

they are not targeting the smart buyer, they are targeting the average consumer who likes to see cheaper devices even if it is more monthly fees...

If your expecting sprint to make a policy around ppl paying full price or buying on ebay or using their device more then 2 years would make it more complicated for sprint with no gain...

Also, the system can still be exploited by buying an EVO at 200$ and then not using it and switch back to an old phone..now sprint just lost 200$ :/

Where did you get that information from? I"m not trying to be a ballbuster, I just wanted to see where you sourced your information from so I can better educate myself.

I thought the $10 fee was for all you can eat "shrimp and crab"?

Over on explainthefee.com a Sprint executive said that the fee was for how much data they expected this phone to use overall compared to less sophisticated devices, not the higher rated speed of the phone or to recoup how cheaply they sold it to you.

Vertigo 07-28-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by hookahzorr (Post 1880802)
I understand y they charge it even if its not in your area.

Its because if u just so happen to goto a place or move there u dont get the extra 4g for free.

Thats my logic.

IMO they should allow people to pick what they want 3g or 3g + unlimited 4G where available. I'm fine with 3G and I find ridiculous that I have to pay for something I don't get.

Just my 2 cents.

explainthefee 07-28-2010 06:48 PM

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Guest writer Airen posted a great article about the Epic 4G - http://explainthefee.com/2010/07/28/...e-odd-man-out/

derfnoslen 08-01-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by explainthefee (Post 1887438)
Guest writer Airen posted a great article about the Epic 4G - http://explainthefee.com/2010/07/28/...e-odd-man-out/


Yeah, that is a very good point. The fee is bull crap!

Major_Nate 10-14-2010 02:23 PM

Normally, the 3G data for Sprint has a cap at 5 gigabytes, but with the $10 add-on, you will have unlimited 3G and 4G. Confirmed this yesterday at work.

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sp4rtan5 10-17-2010 02:54 PM

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I can't complain. 49.99 for everying unlimited except 500 minutes. Grandaddy sero.


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