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chogori 06-14-2009 10:59 AM

Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
Hello,
My apologies if this is not the correct forum, but I need some help with a general issue I've recently encountered.
I just got a Diamond, became quickly fed up with the stock rom, and so I tried flashing it. Started out with MightyROM. Worked great. Then tried a few others (WinMo 6.1 and 6.5).
Then suddenly, every ROM I flashed would stop working after a few hours of use. I get weird certificate issues when trying to run applications, icons would be missing, etc.
Upon reset, one of 3 things happens: phone hangs at Diamond screen, OS would load and then hang, or OS will automatically rerun customize and setup. I then have toreflash the ROM.
I've tried clearing my storage.
Any thoughts?

2k4mach 06-14-2009 11:00 AM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
flash to the stock shipped rom and then reflash to whatever custom rom you want.

quite a bit of talk regarding this in prolly every custom rom thread :)

sadthai 06-14-2009 12:03 PM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2k4mach (Post 974262)
flash to the stock shipped rom and then reflash to whatever custom rom you want.

quite a bit of talk regarding this in prolly every custom rom thread :)

yes, what 2k4mach said. i have always doubt this method because i couldnt understand how it would help. flashing would wipe everything out like reformat and re-install an os image. well,l i experienced a similar issue, but my rom/files would get corrupted within few minutes after a flash. i flashed back to stock/shipped rom and reflashed the custom rom, and hasnt experience any issue after that. i'm a believer now.

toenail 06-14-2009 12:17 PM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
if youve tried loading either shipped or stock and it just hangs after customizations then your pretty much screwed.. your best bet is load a shipped rom, at the screen alignment load the diamond relocker and take it back to sprint.. did that to mine yesterday and it was approved for a replacement.. i get my new one tomorrow.. but know matter what you do now its never going to get fixed... im my personal opinion i think avoiding the 6.5 roms is the way to go..

and you were correct, wrong forum

horndoctor 06-14-2009 01:17 PM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
I think your device has experienced indecent exposure. :)

wmdunn 06-14-2009 02:52 PM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toenail (Post 974354)
if youve tried loading either shipped or stock and it just hangs after customizations then your pretty much screwed.. your best bet is load a shipped rom, at the screen alignment load the diamond relocker and take it back to sprint.. did that to mine yesterday and it was approved for a replacement.. i get my new one tomorrow.. but know matter what you do now its never going to get fixed... im my personal opinion i think avoiding the 6.5 roms is the way to go..

and you were correct, wrong forum

A little extreme ... he hasn't tried flashing back to shipped, yet. And, there's nothing wrong with 6.5 roms ... many of us have been using them for months ... just follow the suggestions for flashing back to shipped, etc ...

linzgeneral 06-14-2009 03:18 PM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wmdunn (Post 974565)
A little extreme ... he hasn't tried flashing back to shipped, yet. And, there's nothing wrong with 6.5 roms ... many of us have been using them for months ... just follow the suggestions for flashing back to shipped, etc ...

Unfortunately, I have flashed back to the shipped rom at least six times and my issue, described verbatim in the original post, is actually getting worse with eash 6.5 rom that I flash. It's gotten to the point where it takes about 10 consecutive hard resets to get back to a state where I can even attempt to flash to something else. I think my phone is fried. Last resort is flashing to only 6.1 roms and observe the behavior/difference. My phone isnt too old (2 months) and I really dont flash too often.

willysp 06-14-2009 03:44 PM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wmdunn (Post 974565)
...And, there's nothing wrong with 6.5 roms ... many of us have been using them for months ... .

Actually, I do have a different experience with 6.5 ROMs. I've been using kitchens back to the Apache/6700 days. And Mogul, Touch and Diamond kitchens.

I have had several 6.5 flash problems - with several 6.5 kitchens. Juicy's had the most problems. Up until last week, a flash to either 6.1 Sprint stock, or my 6.1 custom ROM worked fine. However, last week, after a 6.5 problem, I flashed to my 6.1 custom. It then had several problems (e.g. couldn't send a text message), so had to flash to stock.

So, in my experience, there IS something strange going on with the 6.5 ROMs.

toenail 06-14-2009 03:49 PM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wmdunn (Post 974565)
A little extreme ... he hasn't tried flashing back to shipped, yet. And, there's nothing wrong with 6.5 roms ... many of us have been using them for months ... just follow the suggestions for flashing back to shipped, etc ...

i wont say its extreme since i did say "if youve tried loading either shipped or stock and it just hangs after customizations then your pretty much screwed"
many have not had issues with 6.5 however many have as well.. none of these issues were experienced with previous roms.. to me the risks are worth it

chogori 06-15-2009 12:50 AM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
Thanks for the quick and helpful replies!
I'll try to flash the stock ROM, clear storage, and then flash back the ROM I'd like to use to see if that remedies my issues.
I'll report back soon.

As a side note, does anyone know why this corruption occurs?
I wonder if there's an issue with a kitchen that is corrupting memory sectors or something?
Why does flashing the stock ROM fix it? Is there something it does that our custom ROMs do not?

willysp 06-15-2009 01:02 AM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chogori (Post 975520)
Thanks for the quick and helpful replies!
I'll try to flash the stock ROM, clear storage, and then flash back the ROM I'd like to use to see if that remedies my issues.
I'll report back soon.

As a side note, does anyone know why this corruption occurs?
I wonder if there's an issue with a kitchen that is corrupting memory sectors or something?
Why does flashing the stock ROM fix it? Is there something it does that our custom ROMs do not?

I've not seen a post where anyone says they know why this occurs. Could be a difference in memory structure between 6.1 and 6.5 that the ROM Update Utility doesn't handle - just my speculation.

smiznith 06-15-2009 11:40 AM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chogori (Post 975520)
Thanks for the quick and helpful replies!
I'll try to flash the stock ROM, clear storage, and then flash back the ROM I'd like to use to see if that remedies my issues.
I'll report back soon.

As a side note, does anyone know why this corruption occurs?
I wonder if there's an issue with a kitchen that is corrupting memory sectors or something?
Why does flashing the stock ROM fix it? Is there something it does that our custom ROMs do not?

This is why it is recommended that you flash stock or shipped before loading a custom rom. When you keep flashing, bits of the custom rom stay in your phones memory (depending on the page pool i think) and your phones internal storage. If you frequently flash (especially from the internal storage), you should format your internal storage occationally also...

UKNOWINVU2 06-15-2009 04:22 PM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
I have been expiernecing the same problem, my phone will not go past Diamond splash screen and when it does its SLOW as heck. Also when i try and install a ROM it 8 times out of 10 it will hang on the automatic customizing in windows screen. I am going to try and flash my stock ROM, what is the best way to format the internal memory?

marcjen 06-15-2009 04:36 PM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UKNOWINVU2 (Post 976612)
I have been expiernecing the same problem, my phone will not go past Diamond splash screen and when it does its SLOW as heck. Also when i try and install a ROM it 8 times out of 10 it will hang on the automatic customizing in windows screen. I am going to try and flash my stock ROM, what is the best way to format the internal memory?

I would save the formatting of Internal Memory as a LAST resort. I've been custom ROM flashing since the Diamond as been out and I've never formatted my Internal Memory.

I generally never had to flash to stock until the 6.5 ROMS came out. I used to flash a new 6.1 rom, then do a hard reset after. Nowadays I flash to stock while I'm downloading a new 6.5 ROM. I don't have any trouble.

Sometimes I flash to a new 6.5 if it's the same person (like mighty 5 to mighty 5.1) I found that to work without incident most of the time.

It can definitely be hit and miss. I also found that if you receive a call/text during customization that pretty much guarantee's your gonna need to re-flash or flash back to stock.

Pull battery, power on with Vol Down (tri boot loader) and hook up to computer for a reflash.

Good Luck!

indagroove 06-15-2009 04:55 PM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
The interesting thing is that Touch Pro users don't seem to have this issue.

I'm guessing that it has something to do with either the payload or the kernal we are using to port.

UKNOWINVU2 06-15-2009 09:42 PM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
I formated my internal storage and put on MysterROM 4, and it loaded no problem and seemed to work fine. Much faster then before and didnt crash... untill i loaded the weather ap in touch flow. Then it crashed... Now i am reflasing with mightyROM. I dont know if it has anything to do with it, but this all started when i flashed barebonez 3.3. I do notice now that it is a sprint ROM and i am with bell, so i have no idea. I am just hoping i didnt friy my phone.

UKNOWINVU2 06-15-2009 09:59 PM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
I just put mighty ROM 5 on and it loaded fine and installed fine. For some reason i can not change the bottom and top bars in TF3d color from blue, it is locked on blue. And when i activate the WM6.5 theme it will not let me change to any of the themes in WM6.5.

Also, when i plug in the USB the active sync window and disk drive window does not come up. I dont know what is going on, does anyone have any ideas?

trekkie0927 06-16-2009 08:19 AM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
I also have a corruption problem. I'm not sure if it's the same kind.
Basically, after I did a reset one night, the phone became stuck at the boot screen for 3 min. then it would boot properly, and the device would work fine. This slow boot would be there no matter how many times I flash with a new rom, either stock or custom. Hard reset didn't fix it either.
I eventually got it fixed by physically removing the battery, but recently the same problem has re-surfaced again. Removing the battery did not fix it this time.

Chances are there's just something wrong with my phone now. Does anyone think it's caused by a radio flash? Cuz this never happened before I flashed my radio.

I'm using the Bell touch diamond, and I flashed it to the Telus 1.04.05v radio. I am now using the newest 6.1 MightyRom. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.

icutzo 06-16-2009 08:23 AM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
To flash to a 6.5 rom follow those steps and you will have a 99% chance of succeding. It has worked for me and I just could not flash from a 6.1 to a 6.5 rom . I would always get errors and it would get stuck at the boot screen. Following those steps fixed all my flashing problems.

1- Flash back to the stock rom

2- when it asks you to tap the screen to start customization STOP THERE! Don't do anything.

3- Now start the flashing process with your 6.5 rom and once you get to the "tap the screen to start customizing...." go for it. (Yes Activesync will still be connected to your phone even though it did not detect your phone)

4- Optionally you can clear storage after the 6.5 rom has finished customizing and loaded correctly.

I've noticed that doing that will get you pa ssed most problems flashing to a 6.5 rom.

Hope it helps :headbang:

Unplugged 06-17-2009 01:38 AM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
I tried the 6.5 route and did the flash from the shipped ROM. Everything worked fine and I started to restore my phone using Sprite Backup. Then a call came through while it was connected via USB. The phone froze and the USB connection dropped. Now, I can only get to the TouchDIAMOND screen and the red letters show up. I tried hard reset and I get the same result each time. I think I might be out of luck on this one. Any ideas?

Ha Ha. I remembered the sticky about how to fix a hang on the boot screen, so I fixed the problem by reflashing to the stock ROM. Trying again....

indagroove 06-17-2009 02:06 AM

Re: Odd OS corruptiom aftet multiple flashes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Unplugged (Post 979821)
I tried the 6.5 route and did the flash from the shipped ROM. Everything worked fine and I started to restore my phone using Sprite Backup. Then a call came through while it was connected via USB. The phone froze and the USB connection dropped. Now, I can only get to the TouchDIAMOND screen and the red letters show up. I tried hard reset and I get the same result each time. I think I might be out of luck on this one. Any ideas?

Ha Ha. I remembered the sticky about how to fix a hang on the boot screen, so I fixed the problem by reflashing to the stock ROM. Trying again....

Be careful with those backup programs. make sure you're not restoring old registry entires.


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