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Justin9825 10-11-2008 03:28 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
I'm trying to get the DMU key loaded onto the sprint touch. I can not figure out what aplication to open. Bitpim doesn't work and when I installed QSPT there are so many different little programs under the start menu. Please help me.

PDAPhoneJunkie 10-11-2008 09:21 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Well I'm gonna try this out if I can find an Alltel phone.

Haha, my collection of Apache's is almost as big as yours.

Getitnowmarketing 10-12-2008 07:00 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin9825 (Post 454774)
I'm trying to get the DMU key loaded onto the sprint touch. I can not figure out what aplication to open. Bitpim doesn't work and when I installed QSPT there are so many different little programs under the start menu. Please help me.

Use configuration to start and if the modem drivers are installed it will show up as surf something on the com port its on. Highlight that comport and select efs or electronic file system can't remember the exact wording.

WhiteBlazer01 11-24-2008 11:55 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
1) I wonder if this will work to use the Sprint HTC Touch Pro on Verizon's network.

2) I also wonder if this will work to use the unbranded HTC Touch Pro (CDMA version with front mount camera) to use on Verizon's network.

If this does work, this will definitely make my day! It's just so frustrating to find out that Verizon is dead last to come out with phones other carriers have already have, and once they finally do, it's a watered down version!

Someone please let me know about my 2 questions. :)

fitbryan 11-25-2008 01:20 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteBlazer01 (Post 540854)
1) I wonder if this will work to use the Sprint HTC Touch Pro on Verizon's network.

2) I also wonder if this will work to use the unbranded HTC Touch Pro (CDMA version with front mount camera) to use on Verizon's network.

If this does work, this will definitely make my day! It's just so frustrating to find out that Verizon is dead last to come out with phones other carriers have already have, and once they finally do, it's a watered down version!

Someone please let me know about my 2 questions. :)

Yes it will and is being done, but you are looking in the wrong place. try the touch pro forum.

Getitnowmarketing 11-25-2008 01:48 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fitbryan (Post 541020)
Yes it will and is being done, but you are looking in the wrong place. try the touch pro forum.

Yep Noir made a good write up on the Touch Pro in the pro forums.

WhiteBlazer01 11-25-2008 10:27 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drellisdee (Post 541070)
Yep Noir made a good write up on the Touch Pro in the pro forums.

Thanks, for those wondering, here is the link. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44663

Falcon4 01-25-2009 03:42 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Hum... well now that I found that Verizon would just accept my PPC-6700 (from Sprint) with open arms, I've been tinkering around with the ideas of getting Verizon to allow me to subscribe to VCast service on it (so I can get my "emergency data" plan like usual - Bluetooth tethering). God knows I'm not gonna pay $40+ per month for something I'll only use once in a while...

So "method" (involving ESN and one of my other VX8300's) aside, I now have VCast subscribed on my Apache, and service (phone/SMS) works great. Just for one small (big, rather) problem! Whenever I try to connect to the internet via "Cellular Line", I get a message from Sprint saying "Error Code: 67 / Registration failure. Your PCS Vision username and/or password may be incorrect. Please try again".

How on earth did my Apache even remember anything about Sprint? It's been fully flashed in every corner of the device... there's no traces left of Sprint that I know if (I updated radio/ExtRom/OS with the latest Verizon XV6700 ROM, first time I ran it I let it fully "customize", then I hard-reset it and selectively installed customizations that give me features instead of stripping...). The only trace I found was in nvm_htc which had a Sprint URL in it.

The OP's post regarding editing nvm_htc is very very vague and I don't exactly understand what needs to be done in the hex editor (which I'm plenty proficient in using, btw). I found SPCS_001 in the file and replaced it with "11111111", but I'm not sure if that's what needed to be done, as I still get the error.

More details and a longer writeup is originally written on this post on pdaphonehome.com...

Halp?

Falcon4 01-25-2009 05:22 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Also going in small and frustrating circles regarding trying to update the ERI here. Whenever I dial ##eri, it just makes a phone call. I tried EPST.EXE ##374 (##eri) and it just flashes the EPST screen and goes away in a split second. It seems like the ERI is somewhat important.

How can I get that ERI updated on this f**ing thing? It's beyond frustrating and I'm going in small, frustrating, and pointless circles trying to get it working. I didn't have to do any "unlocking" (supercid) to put other roms on it either... I guess that's the benefit of a 1.00 bootloader.

Please please post a reply of some kind here, I'm really dying to get this working. It's so close I can feel it. I do want to get rid of this aging Apache but I don't want to let it go with such a simple problem... :P

Getitnowmarketing 01-25-2009 10:22 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcon4 (Post 665223)
Whenever I try to connect to the internet via "Cellular Line", I get a message from Sprint saying "Error Code: 67 / Registration failure. Your PCS Vision username and/or password may be incorrect. Please try again".

How on earth did my Apache even remember anything about Sprint? It's been fully flashed in every corner of the device... there's no traces left of Sprint that I know if (I updated radio/ExtRom/OS with the latest Verizon XV6700 ROM, first time I ran it I let it fully "customize", then I hard-reset it and selectively installed customizations that give me features instead of stripping...). The only trace I found was in nvm_htc which had a Sprint URL in it.



Halp?

Did you edit the NVM EPST settings such as the NAI and load a verizon DMU public key? Those items are listed in the first post on this thread. Simply flashing a verizon rom is not enough.

Falcon4 01-25-2009 06:08 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drellisdee (Post 665421)
Did you edit the NVM EPST settings such as the NAI and load a verizon DMU public key? Those items are listed in the first post on this thread. Simply flashing a verizon rom is not enough.

EPST stuff? Yeah, I edited all that stuff, it's got my (PHONE)@vzw3g.com login on every relevant page, and "verizon" as the password (for some reason during my Cricket fiddling, I had "cricket" as the password). Cleared the secrets and they get reset (filled in) the next time I go back into EPST after rebooting/reconnecting.

DMU? Well, for some reason the "DMU" folder on it was empty when I went there (it was still doing the "Vision PCS" error before that, with an empty DMU folder), and I yanked the 10.key file off my VX8300.

I'm still really curious about that NVM_HTC file... like I said, OP is really unclear about what to do with NVM_HTC and that's got me thinking that I missed an important step. =\

But thanks for the reply!!! :)

nkcavs23 01-25-2009 07:20 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
if i already have a vzw apache can i flash it and not have to pay for a data plan?

Getitnowmarketing 01-25-2009 09:13 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcon4 (Post 666253)
EPST stuff? Yeah, I edited all that stuff, it's got my (PHONE)@vzw3g.com login on every relevant page, and "verizon" as the password (for some reason during my Cricket fiddling, I had "cricket" as the password). Cleared the secrets and they get reset (filled in) the next time I go back into EPST after rebooting/reconnecting.

DMU? Well, for some reason the "DMU" folder on it was empty when I went there (it was still doing the "Vision PCS" error before that, with an empty DMU folder), and I yanked the 10.key file off my VX8300.

I'm still really curious about that NVM_HTC file... like I said, OP is really unclear about what to do with NVM_HTC and that's got me thinking that I missed an important step. =\

But thanks for the reply!!! :)

password is "vzw"

No the supercid is only needed on certain bootloaders that don't work with NoID RUU namely 2.04 and 2.05 and is only needed to get the other carriers rom on there in those cases. You must have missed something redo the steps I outlined in the first post over. I've done many of these and never once gotten a sprint error unless my M.IP wasn't correct. Not to mention the fact you have esn cloned it and may/will cause many data authentication errors once you get it working.

Falcon4 01-25-2009 09:21 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
"vzw"? Really? I'd been using "verizon" on my VX8300 with hax'd tethering programming for its DUN connection...

I'll give that a try though and post back with the results! Still dying to know where it's getting this "Vision PCS" error from though...

Falcon4 01-25-2009 09:30 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Aha! I think I found where my errors are coming from!

In EPST, under M.IP Customer Profile 1, I have what appear to be some old Sprint settings with some VZW stuff mixed in...

Enable Profile: Enable
NAI: (NUM)@vzw3g.com
MN HA SPI Set: Enable
MN HA SPI Value( Hex ): 4D2
MN AAA SPI Set: Enable
MN AAA SPI Value ( Hex ): 4D2
Reverse Tunneling Preferred: Enable
Home Address: 0.0.0.0
Primary HA Address: 68.28.49.** (iptools.com shows this is a Sprint PCS IP)
Secondary HA Address: 68.28.57.** (same)
HA Shared Secret: (blank)
AAA Shared Secret: (blank)
DMU Public Key(PKOID): 0
MN Authenticator( Hex ): 0

(All spacing and typos preserved, lawl)

I take it this is probably where my error is coming from? I'll try DUN again with the "vzw" password (on the security page under "HDR AN AUTH Password(LONG)" and "PPP PASSWORD")... but I'm certainly curious about those old Sprint values in the Customer Profile 1... everything under Default Profile matches OP's post though.

edit: Hahahaha... under M.IP Settings, Active Profile was set to "1" (this messed up one). It looks like none of those settings saved properly! Therein probably lies my problem. Okay, well, time to give it a good ol' try once again!

Falcon4 01-25-2009 09:43 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Nope! Still exactly the same Vision PCS error, exactly the same sequence of events, exactly the same everything. :(

Augh, what's wrong with this stupid thing?

edit: Also, the ESN is from one of my own phones and I'd smash the original into little bitty pieces to make sure it never turns on again, if I weren't hoping to use that phone for anything else in the future. So I shouldn't get any authentication errors (I would think...!) since I'm extra careful to never turn that phone on! Hey, if I could get Verizon to give me the VCast package and ignore that my Apache's ESN isn't VCast capable... I'd keep its original ESN. I figure there's no legitimate harm in swapping two of my own phones... =\

Still, really wondering how it knows anything about Sprint after all this flashing and programming! :(

edit: OK, I skipped the PRL step because I swore I did that either with earlier flashing or with *228 option 2, and the phone functionality is working fine. But I'm now trying it again with the included PRL from OP...

edit: Nope. Same old same old. It did fail much faster this time though... dialing -> "!" in title bar -> Vision PCS error -> "Your username or password is wrong". :(

Getitnowmarketing 01-25-2009 10:33 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Mip profiles are MIP Profile
Number of profiles: 6
Active user profile index: 0
MIP_MODE: Mobile IP Prefered
MIP Reg Retries: 2
MIP Reg Retry: 1750 ms
MIP Pre-Reg Timeout: 0
Mobile Node-HA: Enable
Send A Reg: Disable
Dormant Handoff Opt: Enable

MIP Default Profile
Enable Profile: Enable
NAI: mynumber@vzw3g.com
MN HA SPI Set: Enable
MN HA SPI Value: 12C
MN AAA SPI Set: Enable
MN AAA SPI Value: 0
Reverse Tunneling: Enable
Home Address: 0.0.0.0
HA Shared Secret:
AAA Shared Secret:
Primary HA Address: 255.255.255.255
Secondary HA Address: 255.255.255.255
DMU Pub Key: 10
MN Authenticator: 0

Do you have values for Ha and AAA? Password is not "vzw" under security tab in epst but under the connections menu if you need to manually create a data profile of dial string #777 username is your mdn@vzw3g.com and pass is vzw. Under security the passwords are your PPP passwords not "vzw".

Falcon4 01-25-2009 11:03 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Alright, everything there is right, but I don't understand what you mean by "the passwords are not 'vzw'"... if they're not "vzw" then... what are they? Usually that's how it goes... "it's not this, it's that" ;)

I mean, do I leave them blank then? Not "vzw" but just, blank?

edit: I tried putting the DUN username/password as "dongs/nothing" and guess what? Exactly the same error... what could this mean...? :(
edit: ^^ In the Windows connection options, that is. Not EPST. EPST at the moment is:
Security:
HDN AN AUTH User Id(LONG): (Phone)@vzw3g.com
HDN AN AUTH Password(LONG): (blank)
PPP USER ID: (Phone)@vzw3g.com
PPP PASSWORD: vzw

(where "(phone)" is in the format 5551234567)

M.IP Settings:
(Same as OP)

M.IP Default Profile:
(Same as OP, blank secrets)

M.IP Customer Profile 1:
(Same as Default Profile & blank secrets)

M.IP Customer Profile 2 through 6:
(Same as OP except...)
MN HA SPI Set: Disable
MN HA SPI Value( Hex ): 0
MN AAA SPI Set: Disable
MN AAA SPI Value ( Hex ): 0
Reverse Tunneling Preferred: Disable
Secondary HA Address: 0.0.0.0
DMU public key(PKOID): 0

Getitnowmarketing 01-25-2009 11:48 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
[quote=Falcon4;666885]Alright, everything there is right, but I don't understand what you mean by "the passwords are not 'vzw'"... if they're not "vzw" then... what are they? Usually that's how it goes... "it's not this, it's that" ;)

I mean, do I leave them blank then? Not "vzw" but just, blank?

edit: I tried putting the DUN username/password as "dongs/nothing" and guess what? Exactly the same error... what could this mean...? :(
edit: ^^ In the Windows connection options, that is. Not EPST. EPST at the moment is:
Security:
HDN AN AUTH User Id(LONG): (Phone)@vzw3g.com
HDN AN AUTH Password(LONG): (blank)
PPP USER ID: (Phone)@vzw3g.com
PPP PASSWORD: vzw <--- that would be true if verizon was a Simple IP network like cricket.

They are unique keys. I would suggest changing your esn back to its original one and using *228 option 3 to esn change it to your account. Call tech support and ask for a "dmu reset" and if that doesn't fix it request that they change you to "IS-95" and then back and that will rebuild your keys correctly.

Falcon4 01-25-2009 11:53 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Well hell's. If I switch my ESN back, I can't get VCast and I may as well not even have data access... VZW charges way way way way way too much for data access on PDAs...

You think that if I switch it back, activate it, and get data to at least connect (on the $0 pay-per-KB plan), then switch it back to my VX8300's ESN and activate VCast, that would actually work? I mean I know it's not the most honest of things, but damnit they've got me locked in a contract and I'd've jumped to Cricket like jumping out of a sinking ship by now, if not for the contract.

I'll try switching it back though... I've noticed another oddity, I haven't gotten any of Verizon's "free texts" (like minutes used when calling #MIN), but I can still receive texts specifically sent to me. I wonder if that's the reason for the weirdness...

Falcon4 01-26-2009 12:16 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Woo. Interesting. Okay, switched ESN back, called *228 option 3, and I got a representative (oops!) who wanted me to call back on a different phone so they could let me take out my battery and do a bunch of other stuff. I said I could probably do it online easier, thankyou for your help, and formality. Then I went online and activated it like I did the last time. Went flawlessly.

Then I tried a data connection again... entered (phone)@vzw3g.com as the UserID and vzw as the password, and hit Connect. For the first time, I didn't get a PCS Vision error... I got a modem error from Windows! Previously, the error first came up at the bottom as a notification (PCS Vision error), then a popup at the top. This time it tried dialing once, then tried dialing again, then said "No modem at above number. To check your connection settings...". Very odd indeed.

Do you know of a direct number at Verizon I should try calling for that DMU Reset? And it begs the question, you think I could convince them to (if at all possible) switch on VCast for this line again, given the "I already hate Verizon..." circumstances? :P

Getitnowmarketing 01-26-2009 12:34 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcon4 (Post 667069)
Woo. Interesting. Okay, switched ESN back, called *228 option 3, and I got a representative (oops!) who wanted me to call back on a different phone so they could let me take out my battery and do a bunch of other stuff. I said I could probably do it online easier, thankyou for your help, and formality. Then I went online and activated it like I did the last time. Went flawlessly.

Then I tried a data connection again... entered (phone)@vzw3g.com as the UserID and vzw as the password, and hit Connect. For the first time, I didn't get a PCS Vision error... I got a modem error from Windows! Previously, the error first came up at the bottom as a notification (PCS Vision error), then a popup at the top. This time it tried dialing once, then tried dialing again, then said "No modem at above number. To check your connection settings...". Very odd indeed.

Do you know of a direct number at Verizon I should try calling for that DMU Reset? And it begs the question, you think I could convince them to (if at all possible) switch on VCast for this line again, given the "I already hate Verizon..." circumstances? :P

Good modem error usually means your keys are missing/bad or the public key is missing on a convert or both.

It is not possbile to add Vcast to a PDA the system will not allow it as it populates feature based off the device model. Our tech cannot add it either. Back end data features work very differently on a pda than a dumbphone such as your old vx8300. Call the regular 1-800 number on your statement to get transferred to tech support. I wont list any of our internal numbers or extensions.

Falcon4 01-26-2009 12:47 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
... Crappo. Well in that case there's really no use in even setting up data on this darn thing...

Quote:

$0.015/KB or approx. $15/MB.
"wat" is the only thing I can say to that... even 1 cent per KB is way overpriced. >.<

So I guess that answers the question of why data wasn't working... although I don't quite "get" why the PDA references Sprint when I had the VX8300's ESN on it, it seems to be working much better now at least for those that like getting financially raped by Verizon's data packages. =\

(Seriously, either 1.5c per KB or 45 bucks a month? Man I knew I was getting a good deal with VCast but I didn't think it was that good...)

I guess I'll take further questions to PM as it doesn't really relate to this thread anymore. Thanks!

Getitnowmarketing 01-26-2009 12:52 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
There is an unlimited $29.99 email & web for smartphone

Falcon4 01-26-2009 01:08 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drellisdee (Post 667153)
There is an unlimited $29.99 email & web for smartphone

Yeeeah, that's definitely a lot more manageable. I'm on the phone with the rep now, setting that up. He reset the DMU key and still no help, said that other thing (setting it to ??-?? and back?) isn't possible because they don't even have that network/option anymore. =\

He's working silently in the background :)

Getitnowmarketing 01-26-2009 01:16 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcon4 (Post 667189)
Yeeeah, that's definitely a lot more manageable. I'm on the phone with the rep now, setting that up. He reset the DMU key and still no help, said that other thing (setting it to ??-?? and back?) isn't possible because they don't even have that network/option anymore. =\

He's working silently in the background :)

IS-95 & back yes it isn't used anymore but option is still there it in effect drops data profile completely then will re push keys back to you. Exactly what rom are you using the shipped.exe or what?

Falcon4 01-26-2009 01:23 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Augh... nope, no such luck. The guy did all sorts of stuff and in the end I got no further than I started.

He reset everything (set everything back to defaults as he said) and couldn't get me the $29 plan because my phone "doesn't support it" (like VCast). Verified the DUN settings, soft reset a few times, and the last available option was to hard reset the phone, which I was like, euh, yeah... uh... I think I'll just live with it. Wanted to see if he knew anything about EPST settings, but at that point he was like, well, that's not something we support... it's like hacking the phone and we have no idea what settings could get messed up like that. So, facepalm.

However, the first time I tried connecting after the second soft-reset (he changed something else), the first connection attempt took significantly longer than usual. Not sure if that's significant or anything, but it's definitely something different... ;)

I really think it has something to do with the phone's embedded file system. Something in there is corrupted and I have no way of fixing it because nobody seems to have ever posted a dump of their XV6700's non-indentifying EFS files. Maybe I should try changing "11111111" back to "VZW__001" in nvm_htc? Or does that file even matter?

I guess at any rate, "facepalm", since I can't even get data service on this thing to begin with. It's good to have a working, stable PPC back, but I'm sure the novelty of having an all-in-one device versus two devices that can do "anything" (hey, the VX8300 is a _very_ capable and flexible communications device - it can cancel accidental texts unlike the Apache! LOL).

I'm just coming to realize how off-topic I've gotten this... lol. But thanks for the help none the less :)

EDIT: I'm using this ROM, with the radio, ExtRom, and OS all flashed in one go. I aborted the customization and applied most of the CABs manually without the restrictive CABs installed.

Getitnowmarketing 01-26-2009 01:33 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcon4 (Post 667216)
Augh... nope, no such luck. The guy did all sorts of stuff and in the end I got no further than I started.

He reset everything (set everything back to defaults as he said) and couldn't get me the $29 plan because my phone "doesn't support it" (like VCast). Verified the DUN settings, soft reset a few times, and the last available option was to hard reset the phone, which I was like, euh, yeah... uh... I think I'll just live with it. Wanted to see if he knew anything about EPST settings, but at that point he was like, well, that's not something we support... it's like hacking the phone and we have no idea what settings could get messed up like that. So, facepalm.

However, the first time I tried connecting after the second soft-reset (he changed something else), the first connection attempt took significantly longer than usual. Not sure if that's significant or anything, but it's definitely something different... ;)

I really think it has something to do with the phone's embedded file system. Something in there is corrupted and I have no way of fixing it because nobody seems to have ever posted a dump of their XV6700's non-indentifying EFS files. Maybe I should try changing "11111111" back to "VZW__001" in nvm_htc? Or does that file even matter?

I guess at any rate, "facepalm", since I can't even get data service on this thing to begin with. It's good to have a working, stable PPC back, but I'm sure the novelty of having an all-in-one device versus two devices that can do "anything" (hey, the VX8300 is a _very_ capable and flexible communications device - it can cancel accidental texts unlike the Apache! LOL).

I'm just coming to realize how off-topic I've gotten this... lol. But thanks for the help none the less :)

EDIT: I'm using this ROM, with the radio, ExtRom, and OS all flashed in one go. I aborted the customization and applied most of the CABs manually without the restrictive CABs installed.

Not sure I've never had one do that in many that I've done. The CID in nvm_htc is only for the carrier id check against carrier id of a rom you would flash to it.

turntablez 02-16-2009 01:54 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drellisdee (Post 202174)
UPDATE: Since you can now do a self esn provision via *228 option 3 this will let you add the esn/meid on which will display in the system as "unknown" thus not requiring a data plan on touch pro. This obsoletes the need to call tech support for a DMD request.

1) check your esn is it higher than 05401114111 call customer service at 800-922-0204 and ask them to check if it can be activated also ask them to check it in the DMD esn database. If lower read below (6700 only this is just a rough esn range. 6800 and 6900's from other carriers 100% of the time have to be added in)

Verizon does have a lower esn range if the 6700's esn falls below 05401114111 it is not in verizons esn database. Tech support will have to manually add it which is rather difficult to do. It requires persistence and catching the right knowledgeable tech in the right mood pretty much. There is a way for auth agents to force a foreign esn in using a glitch in the system (THIS LOOPHOLE WAS CLOSED IN THE 8/10 EROES PATCH)but this can only be done on a brand new activation (cannot do on esn swaps) but if you ever change phones the phone will have to be added into the esn database by a tech to use it again. However, the latter method would give you a pretty valid arguement to get it added in as they can see that you were using that esn prior on the network and tell them it was changed in error. **Always say you have an alltel phone for greatest chance of success**

***Update*** For those having trouble getting an esn loaded read this post. Please do not pm me asking for help getting your esn added as I have been bombarded with requests use form here if calls to tech support are unsuccessful http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24855

2) Break that spc code. If you have altell disregard as their spc code is 000000 along with vzw.

Put your phone in dm mode its ##diag talk or ##diag# talk on most phones (carrier dependant search the boards here). Press start (left soft key) and plug in usb cord to both phone and pc if you have vista the drivers will auto install. If you have xp you will need to download the diagnostics drivers attached in this post and manually direct the install to where they were downloaded in your pc.

Place your diagnostic port for the phone on com 2 and run the se47 program it will set the spc to all 0's in less than 2 seconds. Press stop and disconnect phone from usb.
*edit se47 will only work on a 6700 not 6800 or 6900 use getspc and qpst to set spc to all 0's
Method here for non sprint 6800's and 6900's that getspc won't work with http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...&postcount=126

3) *6700 only* supercid phone's bootloader so any carriers rom will take (not necessary if using no id ruu and helmi's wm6.1 with a bootloader 1.00, 1.02, or 2.02 or with the stock no bootloader rom linked in step 4 **6800 & 6900 supercid method http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...light=supercid this is not needed just for info only as you can just use the olipro or imcokeman unlockers**

You will need bitpim (free program http://bitpim.sourceforge.net/ ) and qpst (dont ask for a link. Hint join mobilefiles.com)

Place the phone in dm mode again ##diag talk or your carriers version of it. Load bitpim and select other cdma phone on port 2 and save the nvm_htc file to desktop. Load xvi32 (hex editor) and change the carrier wording ie. VZW__001 or your carrier's wording (will be 8 spaces) to "11111111" (without quotes) and save file. Use qpst and overwrite the nvm_htc with the supercid nvm_htc file.

4) Create a custom rom using helmi's6.1 search here and read up and make sure to pick verizon in carrier spots (assuming phone is superCID unlocked w/ bootloader 1.04, 2.04 & 2.05 or using NoId RUU with bootloader 2.02, 1.00, & 1.02). If you would like a stock vzw WM5 rom this is a link here to one here that will not change your bootloader version and will work on all bootloaders http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread..._aku3_official

Flash rom I recommend using radio 1.43 on verizon so if you go with a helmi 6.1 search for that radio version or pull it from the stock rom link above.

5) Upload prl via ##prl and load off memory card or use active sync to add it to my docs then do ##prl to load it. After prl load dial a *228 option 1 after the esn change has been done on your account. Do a ##eri to update eri the same way as prl update from memory card or active sync on phone then load it off of phone from ##eri. PRL & ERI are attached to bottom of post. FYI the ERI will not load on most phones it has loaded about 10% of the time for me on 6700's all midwest wireless and 1 of 4 Qwest ones and never on a 6800 or 6900.


5) edit data settings to vzw dial ##778 and enter your new msl of 000000

MIP Profile
Number of profiles: 6
Active user profile index: 0
MIP_MODE: Mobile IP Prefered
MIP Reg Retries: 2
MIP Reg Retry: 1750 ms
MIP Pre-Reg Timeout: 0
Mobile Node-HA: Enable
Send A Reg: Disable
Dormant Handoff Opt: Enable

MIP Default Profile
Enable Profile: Enable
NAI: mynumber@vzw3g.com (MDN@vzw3g.com)
DUN NAI: (if entry is there enter MDN@vzw3g.com so you can tether without a tethering package or MDN@dun.vzw3g.com if you want paid tethering))
MN HA SPI Set: Enable
MN HA SPI Value: 12C
MN AAA SPI Set: Enable
MN AAA SPI Value: 0 (requires a "2" here for 6800 and 6900)
Reverse Tunneling: Enable
Home Address: 0.0.0.0
HA Shared Secret: (erase whatever entry is here leave blank)
AAA Shared Secret: (erase whatever entry is here leave blank)
Primary HA Address: 255.255.255.255
Secondary HA Address: 255.255.255.255
DMU Pub Key: 10
MN Authenticator: 0

6) Upload a dmu key

Put phone in dm mode ##diag talk and load bitpim or qpst and load a vzw dmu key into the dmu folder on the phone. **UPDATE** added a public dmu key a few post down (post #4) so u guys that don't have any existing vzw phones can get on the network.** Some 6800's you can only do this with qpst. Highlight the dmu folder and right click and pick add new file and browse to where you saved the 10.key on your pc then load it via qpst or bitpim to phone.

7) when you attempt a internet connection it will write your shared secret keys and if you followed this correctly data should be working. This is only for a non- VZW phone that has never been in use on VZW with working data. If it has it already has the vzw dmu key it needs a dmu reset if data fails assuming the connection profile is correct and data is active on the account.

THESE DATA SETTINGS WILL WORK ON OTHER CARRIERS 6800's and 6900's IF YOU CAN GET A TECH TO LOAD THE ESN OR WAIT FOR OPEN NETWORK LATER ON THIS YEAR. YOU STILL HAVE TO LOAD A VZW DMU KEY AS WELL. Open network will provide no tech support beyond voice and sms for non-native vzw phones. I have switched several sprint 6800's and 6900's over this method works perfectly with full data just use the correct unlockers and roms.

PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME ABOUT CLONING ESN'S AS THIS IS ILLEGAL AND IS NOT NEEDED TO GET YOUR PHONE ON VERIZON JUST USE THE FORM LINKED ABOVE IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE GETTING THE ESN IN. DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

These are some pictures of a small fraction of the phones I've converted and I've been known to sell a spare or two to a friend who needed a vzw phone. My wife is getting tired of my pocket pc collection and used an apache the other day for a paperweight :(

Two sprint 6900's one was TMZ's old phone.
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL225.../319443146.jpg

Screen Capture of Sprint 6900 above logged into myaccount to show data 100% working on VZW
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL225.../319443615.jpg

Sprint Mogul With Sprint Logo Removed Active on VZW
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL225.../316559720.jpg

Many Apache's and Harrier's three VZW native phones the rest showing old carrier badge
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL225.../319442365.jpg




Hi,

I'm not trying to steal the thread or anything....but I have a question as if there is a way to do this the other way around.... vzw to sprint??? Could you explain what the settings would be for that? Anyone? Thanks in advance!

TJ

Getitnowmarketing 02-16-2009 07:59 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Possibly but will sprint allow a foreign esn from another carrier?

turntablez 02-17-2009 01:39 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
I moved it.. will start a new thread.

Getitnowmarketing 02-17-2009 03:29 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
The ppc's are done very differently from the other phones please do not attempt to follow the above post as its not for a pocket pc nor anyway related to ppcgeeks.com at all. I am very familiar on how to flash dumbphones and ppc's to cricket but this thread is about using your other carriers PPC on VZW. Mod please remove the above post.

turntablez 02-17-2009 03:55 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drellisdee (Post 718600)
The ppc's are done very differently from the other phones please do not attempt to follow the above post as its not for a pocket pc nor anyway related to ppcgeeks.com at all. I am very familiar on how to flash dumbphones and ppc's to cricket but this thread is about using your other carriers PPC on VZW. Mod please remove the above post.


Im gonna starty a new thread about it and see if I can get some help. Sorry this is hijacking and I'll erase this as soon as I get home.

Getitnowmarketing 02-17-2009 04:35 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
I would try howard forums that sort of thing

TheRealKornbread 04-03-2009 11:13 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Thanks for your post. I was able to get this working successfully (I think). Just to verify, if I dial *228 and it goes to the Verizon phone programming, that means I'm on Verizon correct?

Also, on my screen (I have an Apache), it still says Sprint PCS. For me, this isn't a huge deal because I only really care about functionality, but I am curious how to change that to Verizon.

It may help you to know that I cooked my own ROM because I couldn't get the Helmi one to work for some reason.

Anyway, it's not a big deal, but I am curious.

CozBoogie 04-06-2009 01:36 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Bump

late,
Coz

Getitnowmarketing 09-01-2009 06:04 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Info on getting esn on network is not working anymore but programming settings do if you find a way to get the esn on.

maokly 11-28-2009 03:07 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
where are epst settings saved? registry? is it possible to write a mortscript to automate the process?

Saitek 01-01-2010 07:02 AM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Please help me. I have two sprint touch's (vogues) and put the xda final open carrier ( v17 by NSFFAN) rom on them with the pri for verizon now when my Sprint is off can I have verizon just activate them? Please help. I need to know that everything will work including GPS and EVDO thank you. The rom is a windows mobile 6.5 if you don't know.

MrObvious 01-01-2010 03:17 PM

Re: How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW
 
Heh good luck. You'll have to call and call because Verizon is just that kind of jerk.


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