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I'm trying to get the DMU key loaded onto the sprint touch. I can not figure out what aplication to open. Bitpim doesn't work and when I installed QSPT there are so many different little programs under the start menu. Please help me.
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Well I'm gonna try this out if I can find an Alltel phone.
Haha, my collection of Apache's is almost as big as yours. |
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1) I wonder if this will work to use the Sprint HTC Touch Pro on Verizon's network.
2) I also wonder if this will work to use the unbranded HTC Touch Pro (CDMA version with front mount camera) to use on Verizon's network. If this does work, this will definitely make my day! It's just so frustrating to find out that Verizon is dead last to come out with phones other carriers have already have, and once they finally do, it's a watered down version! Someone please let me know about my 2 questions. :) |
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Hum... well now that I found that Verizon would just accept my PPC-6700 (from Sprint) with open arms, I've been tinkering around with the ideas of getting Verizon to allow me to subscribe to VCast service on it (so I can get my "emergency data" plan like usual - Bluetooth tethering). God knows I'm not gonna pay $40+ per month for something I'll only use once in a while...
So "method" (involving ESN and one of my other VX8300's) aside, I now have VCast subscribed on my Apache, and service (phone/SMS) works great. Just for one small (big, rather) problem! Whenever I try to connect to the internet via "Cellular Line", I get a message from Sprint saying "Error Code: 67 / Registration failure. Your PCS Vision username and/or password may be incorrect. Please try again". How on earth did my Apache even remember anything about Sprint? It's been fully flashed in every corner of the device... there's no traces left of Sprint that I know if (I updated radio/ExtRom/OS with the latest Verizon XV6700 ROM, first time I ran it I let it fully "customize", then I hard-reset it and selectively installed customizations that give me features instead of stripping...). The only trace I found was in nvm_htc which had a Sprint URL in it. The OP's post regarding editing nvm_htc is very very vague and I don't exactly understand what needs to be done in the hex editor (which I'm plenty proficient in using, btw). I found SPCS_001 in the file and replaced it with "11111111", but I'm not sure if that's what needed to be done, as I still get the error. More details and a longer writeup is originally written on this post on pdaphonehome.com... Halp? |
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Also going in small and frustrating circles regarding trying to update the ERI here. Whenever I dial ##eri, it just makes a phone call. I tried EPST.EXE ##374 (##eri) and it just flashes the EPST screen and goes away in a split second. It seems like the ERI is somewhat important.
How can I get that ERI updated on this f**ing thing? It's beyond frustrating and I'm going in small, frustrating, and pointless circles trying to get it working. I didn't have to do any "unlocking" (supercid) to put other roms on it either... I guess that's the benefit of a 1.00 bootloader. Please please post a reply of some kind here, I'm really dying to get this working. It's so close I can feel it. I do want to get rid of this aging Apache but I don't want to let it go with such a simple problem... :P |
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DMU? Well, for some reason the "DMU" folder on it was empty when I went there (it was still doing the "Vision PCS" error before that, with an empty DMU folder), and I yanked the 10.key file off my VX8300. I'm still really curious about that NVM_HTC file... like I said, OP is really unclear about what to do with NVM_HTC and that's got me thinking that I missed an important step. =\ But thanks for the reply!!! :) |
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if i already have a vzw apache can i flash it and not have to pay for a data plan?
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No the supercid is only needed on certain bootloaders that don't work with NoID RUU namely 2.04 and 2.05 and is only needed to get the other carriers rom on there in those cases. You must have missed something redo the steps I outlined in the first post over. I've done many of these and never once gotten a sprint error unless my M.IP wasn't correct. Not to mention the fact you have esn cloned it and may/will cause many data authentication errors once you get it working. |
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"vzw"? Really? I'd been using "verizon" on my VX8300 with hax'd tethering programming for its DUN connection...
I'll give that a try though and post back with the results! Still dying to know where it's getting this "Vision PCS" error from though... |
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Aha! I think I found where my errors are coming from!
In EPST, under M.IP Customer Profile 1, I have what appear to be some old Sprint settings with some VZW stuff mixed in... Enable Profile: Enable NAI: (NUM)@vzw3g.com MN HA SPI Set: Enable MN HA SPI Value( Hex ): 4D2 MN AAA SPI Set: Enable MN AAA SPI Value ( Hex ): 4D2 Reverse Tunneling Preferred: Enable Home Address: 0.0.0.0 Primary HA Address: 68.28.49.** (iptools.com shows this is a Sprint PCS IP) Secondary HA Address: 68.28.57.** (same) HA Shared Secret: (blank) AAA Shared Secret: (blank) DMU Public Key(PKOID): 0 MN Authenticator( Hex ): 0 (All spacing and typos preserved, lawl) I take it this is probably where my error is coming from? I'll try DUN again with the "vzw" password (on the security page under "HDR AN AUTH Password(LONG)" and "PPP PASSWORD")... but I'm certainly curious about those old Sprint values in the Customer Profile 1... everything under Default Profile matches OP's post though. edit: Hahahaha... under M.IP Settings, Active Profile was set to "1" (this messed up one). It looks like none of those settings saved properly! Therein probably lies my problem. Okay, well, time to give it a good ol' try once again! |
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Nope! Still exactly the same Vision PCS error, exactly the same sequence of events, exactly the same everything. :(
Augh, what's wrong with this stupid thing? edit: Also, the ESN is from one of my own phones and I'd smash the original into little bitty pieces to make sure it never turns on again, if I weren't hoping to use that phone for anything else in the future. So I shouldn't get any authentication errors (I would think...!) since I'm extra careful to never turn that phone on! Hey, if I could get Verizon to give me the VCast package and ignore that my Apache's ESN isn't VCast capable... I'd keep its original ESN. I figure there's no legitimate harm in swapping two of my own phones... =\ Still, really wondering how it knows anything about Sprint after all this flashing and programming! :( edit: OK, I skipped the PRL step because I swore I did that either with earlier flashing or with *228 option 2, and the phone functionality is working fine. But I'm now trying it again with the included PRL from OP... edit: Nope. Same old same old. It did fail much faster this time though... dialing -> "!" in title bar -> Vision PCS error -> "Your username or password is wrong". :( |
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Mip profiles are MIP Profile
Number of profiles: 6 Active user profile index: 0 MIP_MODE: Mobile IP Prefered MIP Reg Retries: 2 MIP Reg Retry: 1750 ms MIP Pre-Reg Timeout: 0 Mobile Node-HA: Enable Send A Reg: Disable Dormant Handoff Opt: Enable MIP Default Profile Enable Profile: Enable NAI: mynumber@vzw3g.com MN HA SPI Set: Enable MN HA SPI Value: 12C MN AAA SPI Set: Enable MN AAA SPI Value: 0 Reverse Tunneling: Enable Home Address: 0.0.0.0 HA Shared Secret: AAA Shared Secret: Primary HA Address: 255.255.255.255 Secondary HA Address: 255.255.255.255 DMU Pub Key: 10 MN Authenticator: 0 Do you have values for Ha and AAA? Password is not "vzw" under security tab in epst but under the connections menu if you need to manually create a data profile of dial string #777 username is your mdn@vzw3g.com and pass is vzw. Under security the passwords are your PPP passwords not "vzw". |
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Alright, everything there is right, but I don't understand what you mean by "the passwords are not 'vzw'"... if they're not "vzw" then... what are they? Usually that's how it goes... "it's not this, it's that" ;)
I mean, do I leave them blank then? Not "vzw" but just, blank? edit: I tried putting the DUN username/password as "dongs/nothing" and guess what? Exactly the same error... what could this mean...? :( edit: ^^ In the Windows connection options, that is. Not EPST. EPST at the moment is: Security: HDN AN AUTH User Id(LONG): (Phone)@vzw3g.com HDN AN AUTH Password(LONG): (blank) PPP USER ID: (Phone)@vzw3g.com PPP PASSWORD: vzw (where "(phone)" is in the format 5551234567) M.IP Settings: (Same as OP) M.IP Default Profile: (Same as OP, blank secrets) M.IP Customer Profile 1: (Same as Default Profile & blank secrets) M.IP Customer Profile 2 through 6: (Same as OP except...) MN HA SPI Set: Disable MN HA SPI Value( Hex ): 0 MN AAA SPI Set: Disable MN AAA SPI Value ( Hex ): 0 Reverse Tunneling Preferred: Disable Secondary HA Address: 0.0.0.0 DMU public key(PKOID): 0 |
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[quote=Falcon4;666885]Alright, everything there is right, but I don't understand what you mean by "the passwords are not 'vzw'"... if they're not "vzw" then... what are they? Usually that's how it goes... "it's not this, it's that" ;)
I mean, do I leave them blank then? Not "vzw" but just, blank? edit: I tried putting the DUN username/password as "dongs/nothing" and guess what? Exactly the same error... what could this mean...? :( edit: ^^ In the Windows connection options, that is. Not EPST. EPST at the moment is: Security: HDN AN AUTH User Id(LONG): (Phone)@vzw3g.com HDN AN AUTH Password(LONG): (blank) PPP USER ID: (Phone)@vzw3g.com PPP PASSWORD: vzw <--- that would be true if verizon was a Simple IP network like cricket. They are unique keys. I would suggest changing your esn back to its original one and using *228 option 3 to esn change it to your account. Call tech support and ask for a "dmu reset" and if that doesn't fix it request that they change you to "IS-95" and then back and that will rebuild your keys correctly. |
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Well hell's. If I switch my ESN back, I can't get VCast and I may as well not even have data access... VZW charges way way way way way too much for data access on PDAs...
You think that if I switch it back, activate it, and get data to at least connect (on the $0 pay-per-KB plan), then switch it back to my VX8300's ESN and activate VCast, that would actually work? I mean I know it's not the most honest of things, but damnit they've got me locked in a contract and I'd've jumped to Cricket like jumping out of a sinking ship by now, if not for the contract. I'll try switching it back though... I've noticed another oddity, I haven't gotten any of Verizon's "free texts" (like minutes used when calling #MIN), but I can still receive texts specifically sent to me. I wonder if that's the reason for the weirdness... |
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Woo. Interesting. Okay, switched ESN back, called *228 option 3, and I got a representative (oops!) who wanted me to call back on a different phone so they could let me take out my battery and do a bunch of other stuff. I said I could probably do it online easier, thankyou for your help, and formality. Then I went online and activated it like I did the last time. Went flawlessly.
Then I tried a data connection again... entered (phone)@vzw3g.com as the UserID and vzw as the password, and hit Connect. For the first time, I didn't get a PCS Vision error... I got a modem error from Windows! Previously, the error first came up at the bottom as a notification (PCS Vision error), then a popup at the top. This time it tried dialing once, then tried dialing again, then said "No modem at above number. To check your connection settings...". Very odd indeed. Do you know of a direct number at Verizon I should try calling for that DMU Reset? And it begs the question, you think I could convince them to (if at all possible) switch on VCast for this line again, given the "I already hate Verizon..." circumstances? :P |
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It is not possbile to add Vcast to a PDA the system will not allow it as it populates feature based off the device model. Our tech cannot add it either. Back end data features work very differently on a pda than a dumbphone such as your old vx8300. Call the regular 1-800 number on your statement to get transferred to tech support. I wont list any of our internal numbers or extensions. |
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... Crappo. Well in that case there's really no use in even setting up data on this darn thing...
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So I guess that answers the question of why data wasn't working... although I don't quite "get" why the PDA references Sprint when I had the VX8300's ESN on it, it seems to be working much better now at least for those that like getting financially raped by Verizon's data packages. =\ (Seriously, either 1.5c per KB or 45 bucks a month? Man I knew I was getting a good deal with VCast but I didn't think it was that good...) I guess I'll take further questions to PM as it doesn't really relate to this thread anymore. Thanks! |
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He's working silently in the background :) |
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Augh... nope, no such luck. The guy did all sorts of stuff and in the end I got no further than I started.
He reset everything (set everything back to defaults as he said) and couldn't get me the $29 plan because my phone "doesn't support it" (like VCast). Verified the DUN settings, soft reset a few times, and the last available option was to hard reset the phone, which I was like, euh, yeah... uh... I think I'll just live with it. Wanted to see if he knew anything about EPST settings, but at that point he was like, well, that's not something we support... it's like hacking the phone and we have no idea what settings could get messed up like that. So, facepalm. However, the first time I tried connecting after the second soft-reset (he changed something else), the first connection attempt took significantly longer than usual. Not sure if that's significant or anything, but it's definitely something different... ;) I really think it has something to do with the phone's embedded file system. Something in there is corrupted and I have no way of fixing it because nobody seems to have ever posted a dump of their XV6700's non-indentifying EFS files. Maybe I should try changing "11111111" back to "VZW__001" in nvm_htc? Or does that file even matter? I guess at any rate, "facepalm", since I can't even get data service on this thing to begin with. It's good to have a working, stable PPC back, but I'm sure the novelty of having an all-in-one device versus two devices that can do "anything" (hey, the VX8300 is a _very_ capable and flexible communications device - it can cancel accidental texts unlike the Apache! LOL). I'm just coming to realize how off-topic I've gotten this... lol. But thanks for the help none the less :) EDIT: I'm using this ROM, with the radio, ExtRom, and OS all flashed in one go. I aborted the customization and applied most of the CABs manually without the restrictive CABs installed. |
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Hi, I'm not trying to steal the thread or anything....but I have a question as if there is a way to do this the other way around.... vzw to sprint??? Could you explain what the settings would be for that? Anyone? Thanks in advance! TJ |
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Possibly but will sprint allow a foreign esn from another carrier?
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I moved it.. will start a new thread.
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The ppc's are done very differently from the other phones please do not attempt to follow the above post as its not for a pocket pc nor anyway related to ppcgeeks.com at all. I am very familiar on how to flash dumbphones and ppc's to cricket but this thread is about using your other carriers PPC on VZW. Mod please remove the above post.
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Im gonna starty a new thread about it and see if I can get some help. Sorry this is hijacking and I'll erase this as soon as I get home. |
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I would try howard forums that sort of thing
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Thanks for your post. I was able to get this working successfully (I think). Just to verify, if I dial *228 and it goes to the Verizon phone programming, that means I'm on Verizon correct?
Also, on my screen (I have an Apache), it still says Sprint PCS. For me, this isn't a huge deal because I only really care about functionality, but I am curious how to change that to Verizon. It may help you to know that I cooked my own ROM because I couldn't get the Helmi one to work for some reason. Anyway, it's not a big deal, but I am curious. |
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late, Coz |
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Info on getting esn on network is not working anymore but programming settings do if you find a way to get the esn on.
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where are epst settings saved? registry? is it possible to write a mortscript to automate the process?
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Please help me. I have two sprint touch's (vogues) and put the xda final open carrier ( v17 by NSFFAN) rom on them with the pri for verizon now when my Sprint is off can I have verizon just activate them? Please help. I need to know that everything will work including GPS and EVDO thank you. The rom is a windows mobile 6.5 if you don't know.
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Heh good luck. You'll have to call and call because Verizon is just that kind of jerk.
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