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rorytmeadows 01-05-2010 06:01 PM

T-Mobile flicks HALF of the "dimmer" switch...
 
100% of 7.2Mbps HSPA upgrade complete

Standby for mid-2010 for upgrade to HSPA+ 21Mbps

EDIT: sorry about forgetting the links

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...o_hspa_72.html

http://www.tmonews.com/2010/01/t-mob...-hspa-7-2mbps/

Also, with only 2 bars where I sit, my speed has jumped 50%. I will test full signal at my desk at work tomorrow.

p-slim 01-05-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rorytmeadows (Post 1463161)
100% of 7.2Mbps HSPA upgrade complete

Standby for mid-2010 for upgrade to HSPA+ 21Mbps

EDIT: sorry about forgetting the links

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...o_hspa_72.html

http://www.tmonews.com/2010/01/t-mob...-hspa-7-2mbps/

Also, with only 2 bars where I sit, my speed has jumped 50%. I will test full signal at my desk at work tomorrow.

when does att plan on going to lte? one of those post say att is actually going to hspa+ instead of lte. Also it says lte will have up to 100mbps (even though we know they will never see that speed) while hspa+ is only 21

rorytmeadows 01-05-2010 06:27 PM

Re: T-Mobile flicks HALF of the "dimmer" switch...
 
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Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1463218)
when does att plan on going to lte? one of those post say att is actually going to hspa+ instead of lte. Also it says lte will have up to 100mbps (even though we know they will never see that speed) while hspa+ is only 21

"Both AT&T and T-Mobile have said they will deploy LTE in 2011"

p-slim 01-05-2010 06:53 PM

Re: T-Mobile flicks HALF of the "dimmer" switch...
 
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Originally Posted by rorytmeadows (Post 1463230)
"Both AT&T and T-Mobile have said they will deploy LTE in 2011"

So basically verizon will be losing out this year, they will be the only ones in 2010 without 4g internet speed. Sprint has wimax already (launching in my area this month :occasion5:), supposedly they will be able to switch to lte (we don't know how true this is, or how much effort they will need to complete this), tmobile and att will be on hspa+, verizon is waiting till the end of 2010 and even then obviously on first launch it will not be nationwide.

Eschelon 01-05-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1463304)
So basically verizon will be losing out this year, they will be the only ones in 2010 without 4g internet speed. Sprint has wimax already (launching in my area this month :occasion5:), supposedly they will be able to switch to lte (we don't know how true this is, or how much effort they will need to complete this), tmobile and att will be on hspa+, verizon is waiting till the end of 2010 and even then obviously on first launch it will not be nationwide.

Actually, Verizon has already been testing LTE in certain parts of the nation, with initial plans to fully roll it out later this year. I know because my uncle is one of the head guys doing it.

He never did tell me, however, exactly where it's currently available, though...
So here's to keeping your hopes up :occasion5:

p-slim 01-05-2010 07:07 PM

Re: T-Mobile flicks HALF of the "dimmer" switch...
 
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Originally Posted by Eschelon (Post 1463331)
Actually, Verizon has already been testing LTE in certain parts of the nation, with initial plans to fully roll it out later this year. I know because my uncle is one of the head guys doing it.

He never did tell me, however, exactly where it's currently available, though...
So here's to keeping your hopes up :occasion5:

it could also just be their major scheme, don't waste anytime with the mediocre 4g experience and jump directly to lte which offers up to 100mbps, this could be a plus for them or they could lose a couple of customers, no one actually knows.

rorytmeadows 01-05-2010 07:38 PM

Re: T-Mobile flicks HALF of the "dimmer" switch...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1463304)
So basically verizon will be losing out this year, they will be the only ones in 2010 without 4g internet speed. Sprint has wimax already (launching in my area this month :occasion5:), supposedly they will be able to switch to lte (we don't know how true this is, or how much effort they will need to complete this), tmobile and att will be on hspa+, verizon is waiting till the end of 2010 and even then obviously on first launch it will not be nationwide.

Now you have realized the problem with having so many towers!

BlackDynamite 01-05-2010 08:35 PM

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Wow this is good news.

rorytmeadows 01-05-2010 08:39 PM

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What's frustrating is that the city I visit the most in the country is Philly and they made the switch to 3G+ just after my last visit in August. I want to see it's power so badly!!!

p-slim 01-05-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rorytmeadows (Post 1463575)
What's frustrating is that the city I visit the most in the country is Philly and they made the switch to 3G+ just after my last visit in August. I want to see it's power so badly!!!

i've noticed different reports, are you getting faster speeds in your area? are they noticably faster or you have to do a line speed test to figure out?

rorytmeadows 01-05-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1463585)
i've noticed different reports, are you getting faster speeds in your area? are they noticably faster or you have to do a line speed test to figure out?

Well, I'm getting 50% faster speed on mobilespeedtest using Opera 9. Honestly, I don't really know which browser to use. I've been told to try IE for proper speedtesting, but I can't even get mobilespeedtest to run on IE right now. I haven't been browsing enough to tell much of a difference. My bedroom is a weird place when it comes to coverage; not T-Mobile's fault, just this shitty apartment complex's fault.

Okay, just bombed around in different browsers and I'm noticing a faster and more dependable speed. I still have only 2 bars sitting in this chair, so I'll be getting a better test from my work chair, with 100% signal.

p-slim 01-05-2010 10:59 PM

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So not to take away from tmobile but remember i said i live in San Jose, Well guess what, Silicon Valley has a 20 mile radius so our to major technilogical companies and the people that reside in this 20 mile radius are receiving wimax according to this article and will have the official roll out of wimax in 2010. Isn't sprint supposedly releasing a wimax phone soon, i just might have to pick it up.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Clea...row/1238715466

rorytmeadows 01-05-2010 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1463885)
So not to take away from tmobile but remember i said i live in San Jose, Well guess what, Silicon Valley has a 20 mile radius so our to major technilogical companies and the people that reside in this 20 mile radius are receiving wimax according to this article and will have the official roll out of wimax in 2010. Isn't sprint supposedly releasing a wimax phone soon, i just might have to pick it up.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Clea...row/1238715466

I remeber when HD-DVDs were attractive, too

p-slim 01-05-2010 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rorytmeadows (Post 1463904)
I remeber when HD-DVDs were attractive, too

you're are right though, because max output for wimax is 10mbps and 3g+ can have up to 12, so sprint is missing 2 mbps. At least i'll be able to get service everywhere instead of praying i'll have signal where i land.

brownhornet 01-05-2010 11:13 PM

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Using my girls G1 I really dont notice any difference. Then again hell we're probably only on edge.

rorytmeadows 01-05-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1463913)
you're are right though, because max output for wimax is 10mbps and 3g+ can have up to 12, so sprint is missing 2 mbps. At least i'll be able to get service everywhere instead of praying i'll have signal where i land.

stop landing in f*g towns and you won't have that problem!

brownhornet 01-05-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1463913)
you're are right though, because max output for wimax is 10mbps and 3g+ can have up to 12, so sprint is missing 2 mbps. At least i'll be able to get service everywhere instead of praying i'll have signal where i land.

Do you honestly believe EITHER of these networks will actually see those peak speeds?

rorytmeadows 01-05-2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brownhornet (Post 1463925)
Do you honestly believe EITHER of these networks will actually see those peak speeds?

nobody ever gets peak speeds, but it was nice to see t-mobile so high on the "compare" link of the mobilespeedtest results page

codybear 01-05-2010 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 1463304)
So basically verizon will be losing out this year, they will be the only ones in 2010 without 4g internet speed. Sprint has wimax already (launching in my area this month :occasion5:), supposedly they will be able to switch to lte (we don't know how true this is, or how much effort they will need to complete this), tmobile and att will be on hspa+, verizon is waiting till the end of 2010 and even then obviously on first launch it will not be nationwide.

Good thing I live in the city right next to the #6 city in the US(use to be #5), but we got rev-a in my area right when they were talking about releasing it. lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rorytmeadows (Post 1463447)
Now you have realized the problem with having so many towers!

I don't really see a problem with so many cell towers as one, they provide TONS of service to other cell phone companies......I mean shoot, Alltel has always been ran off of Verizon's cell towers since the day it started.
All of those service they provide equals more income, which equals more towers and more money to spend on making them better.
Therefore the only thing that is stopping them from being able to get it done right now, is not wanting to shelling out the cash.

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Originally Posted by rorytmeadows (Post 1463932)
nobody ever gets peak speeds, but it was nice to see t-mobile so high on the "compare" link of the mobilespeedtest results page

It's kinda interesting that I have got speeds right around the broadband speed, which is 768kbps according to their site, and fast 3g is 1000kbps.
I kept clearing the cache so it was legitimate, but what's really funny about it is I had one bar out of my 5 total that I could have.

I've never had problems with speed or any kind of problems with Verizon over other companies....except customer service at times (since it became Verizon, but with Alltel there was no customer service problems if you called the 1-800 number, the stores were a pain though).

shaggylive 01-05-2010 11:51 PM

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just because lte can go 100, I doubt many towers will have back hauls big enough to support anywhere near that. which reminds me, I think wimax is more of an integrated switching network where nodes can use other nodes for back haul, thus 'in-network' traffic is more efficient.

SporkLover 01-07-2010 09:12 PM

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HSPA is awesome. When in Europe I was getting 2.5+ speeds consistently. I would see high peak speeds, but average was as good as most home broadband connections.

BlackDynamite 01-07-2010 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SporkLover (Post 1469437)
HSPA is awesome. When in Europe I was getting 2.5+ speeds consistently. I would see high peak speeds, but average was as good as most home broadband connections.

Shhhh. Don't say that around here. Most of this site has been brainwashed into thinking CDMA is somehow technologicaly superior to GSM, and you might incite a riot, lol.

shaggylive 01-07-2010 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg (Post 1469471)
Shhhh. Don't say that around here. Most of this site has been brainwashed into thinking CDMA is somehow technologicaly superior to GSM, and you might incite a riot, lol.

:evil3:

lol, yup. cuz you don't hear about bandwidth and dropped call issues on cdma. it was recently made public/official that att was dropping calls due to data traffic. :laughing6:

BlackDynamite 01-07-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shaggylive (Post 1469504)
:evil3:

lol, yup. cuz you don't hear about bandwidth and dropped call issues on cdma. it was recently made public/official that att was dropping calls due to data traffic. :laughing6:

You don't hear about it on GSM either. You hear about it on AT&T because of the way they mismanaged their network. But right before they got the iPhone AT&T was the network with the least amount of dropped calls. Don't you remember all those stupid commercials about it a few years ago?

Incidentally, Sprint is just as known for bad service as AT&T is. AT&T has problems in a couple cities, but the majority of their network is awesome. Sprint has problems in lots of places.

rorytmeadows 01-09-2010 12:44 PM

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So glad to say that I've had like 3 or 4 dropped calls in like 6 years.

gprimr1 01-09-2010 11:29 PM

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Backhall is what really matters really.

BlackDynamite 01-10-2010 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by gprimr1 (Post 1475330)
Backhall is what really matters really.

Backhaul matters, but it isn't any more important than anything else. it's a chain, and any weak link will hurt the chain. If you have too many users on any given tower, it is just as important as backhaul.

SporkLover 01-10-2010 12:49 PM

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network capacity issues with att is not gsm related.


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