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defiantone 03-14-2011 10:38 AM

Wireless Tethering
 
Question; Which build runs wireless tethering? I've tried FRX05, RED and Blazn... and can't get it to work on my Verizon TP2. Suggestions or is there a setting that I'm missing.
Thanks in advance.

arrrghhh 03-14-2011 11:17 AM

Re: Wireless Tethering
 
Search?

There's the XDAndroid wifi tether app.

There's Barnacle wifi tethering, on the Market.

My personal fave - the built-in wifi tethering works fantastic, and is the only one I've found that creates a REAL AP to connect to!

Does your regular wifi work? Assuming that does, I would think the built-in wifi tethering works.

I use it on FRX05 all the time, works great. I'd assume the other builds work, but I have not a clue as I never run them for more than 10 minutes :p.

defiantone 03-14-2011 12:09 PM

Re: Wireless Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 2068317)
Search?

There's the XDAndroid wifi tether app.

There's Barnacle wifi tethering, on the Market.

My personal fave - the built-in wifi tethering works fantastic, and is the only one I've found that creates a REAL AP to connect to!

Does your regular wifi work? Assuming that does, I would think the built-in wifi tethering works.

I use it on FRX05 all the time, works great. I'd assume the other builds work, but I have not a clue as I never run them for more than 10 minutes :p.

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Thanks for responding and you've been thanked.
Consider me a dummy...so where is the built-in wifi tethering located? Also, do I have to turn on wifi first to get the tethering app to work? Mine does not turn on. This could be my problem. I have tried both Barnacle and the one in the link with no luck.

arrrghhh 03-14-2011 12:23 PM

Re: Wireless Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defiantone (Post 2068333)
Thanks for responding and you've been thanked.
Consider me a dummy...so where is the built-in wifi tethering located? Also, do I have to turn on wifi first to get the tethering app to work? Mine does not turn on. This could be my problem. I have tried both Barnacle and the one in the link with no luck.

I guess I'll ask again.

Does wifi work in general? If it doesn't, wifi tethering certainly won't work.

You've got to poke around the settings app more! Lots of hidden gems in there :p.

Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Tethering & Portable Hotspot...

USB tether doesn't work (it does with EasyTether + adb, but native one doesn't work yet), but wifi tethering should - again, assuming your wifi works in general.

O and to answer your question - you do not need to turn on wifi manually. I just suggested testing wifi to make sure that wifi on the phone works...

defiantone 03-14-2011 01:01 PM

Re: Wireless Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 2068336)
I guess I'll ask again.

Does wifi work in general? If it doesn't, wifi tethering certainly won't work.

You've got to poke around the settings app more! Lots of hidden gems in there :p.

Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Tethering & Portable Hotspot...

USB tether doesn't work (it does with EasyTether + adb, but native one doesn't work yet), but wifi tethering should - again, assuming your wifi works in general.

O and to answer your question - you do not need to turn on wifi manually. I just suggested testing wifi to make sure that wifi on the phone works...

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Thanks again..
Now in general, don't think my wifi is working. It will not turn on. Just keeps stay at Turning on. this could be the root of my problem. Also, mine just reads Tethering..not Tethering & Portable Hotspot.
Thanks for your help.

arrrghhh 03-14-2011 01:33 PM

Re: Wireless Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defiantone (Post 2068369)
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Thanks again..
Now in general, don't think my wifi is working. It will not turn on. Just keeps stay at Turning on. this could be the root of my problem. Also, mine just reads Tethering..not Tethering & Portable Hotspot.
Thanks for your help.

This is on FRX05...?

defiantone 03-14-2011 01:46 PM

Re: Wireless Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 2068389)
This is on FRX05...?

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yes FRX05.

808souljah 03-14-2011 02:48 PM

I've had mine working in the red build, and the othere froyo x builds, works awesome! I know some people who have "real" android phones with 2.1, and they don't even have this!

Sent from my FROYO X RED using Tapatalk

ndno 03-14-2011 03:08 PM

Re: Wireless Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 2068336)
I guess I'll ask again.

Does wifi work in general? If it doesn't, wifi tethering certainly won't work.

You've got to poke around the settings app more! Lots of hidden gems in there :p.

Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Tethering & Portable Hotspot...

USB tether doesn't work (it does with EasyTether + adb, but native one doesn't work yet), but wifi tethering should - again, assuming your wifi works in general.

O and to answer your question - you do not need to turn on wifi manually. I just suggested testing wifi to make sure that wifi on the phone works...

Thanks... I didn't even know about this. Thought I needed an app to do the wifi tethering. Guess it's because I never used it ;)

I'm typing this via the wifi tethering connection on FRX05 in my phone now. Working great... though it's a battery hog... 2 radios sucking up power :(

arrrghhh 03-14-2011 03:12 PM

Re: Wireless Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defiantone (Post 2068400)
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yes FRX05.

Ok, let's break this down.

If wifi doesn't work for you, wifi tethering certainly won't. So let's figure out why wifi is broken - have you changed the kernel (zImage) or modules (modules-xxxx-tar.gz) at all? If so, you must be careful to ensure that the modules match the zImage - they are packaged together.

In addition to that, you also must make sure you remove old kernels/modules lest you mix them up!

So let's start with that - get wifi workin, then we can look into wifi tethering.

If worse comes to worse, crap the newest bundle of FRX05 - doesn't need anything to get cam working or wifi working, assuming you just drop the build on your card with no modifications ;).

ndno 03-14-2011 03:29 PM

Re: Wireless Tethering
 
OK, one observation with the builtin Wifi Tethering (FRX05): if the phone goes to sleep (I set mine to sleep at 2 minutes of no activity), the tethering stops working; I need to wake up the phone to get the connection going again. I guess that may be ironed out later with more power saving tweaks.

manekineko 03-14-2011 05:01 PM

Re: Wireless Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 2068317)
My personal fave - the built-in wifi tethering works fantastic, and is the only one I've found that creates a REAL AP to connect to!

Really? That works well for you? I see a lot of hard freezes and reboots when turning off the built-in wifi tethering, both when I used FRX04 and now in GRX0A. It does work quite well until I turn it off though.

ndno 03-14-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by manekineko (Post 2068506)
Really? That works well for you? I see a lot of hard freezes and reboots when turning off the built-in wifi tethering, both when I used FRX04 and now in GRX0A. It does work quite well until I turn it off though.

Same here, freezes android when I turned it off. Had to pull the battery. I guess it's not quite stable yet.

Sent from my FRX05-ized TP2

arrrghhh 03-14-2011 06:57 PM

Re: Wireless Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manekineko (Post 2068506)
Really? That works well for you? I see a lot of hard freezes and reboots when turning off the built-in wifi tethering, both when I used FRX04 and now in GRX0A. It does work quite well until I turn it off though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndno (Post 2068530)
Same here, freezes android when I turned it off. Had to pull the battery. I guess it's not quite stable yet.

The reason the built-in one is my personal fave is it actually creates a real AP - not some ad-hoc network cxn.

With that said, I haven't used it in a couple of weeks - IIRC, it just wouldn't work if I disabled and tried to re-enable - I don't remember any freezes or resets. I guess I should try it again...

Stable it is not - the other wifi tethering options might be more stable, I found I prefer USB tethering to wifi tethering, but that's what I use for tethering because I can charge and tether at the same time :D.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndno (Post 2068449)
OK, one observation with the builtin Wifi Tethering (FRX05): if the phone goes to sleep (I set mine to sleep at 2 minutes of no activity), the tethering stops working; I need to wake up the phone to get the connection going again. I guess that may be ironed out later with more power saving tweaks.

Huh, this is interesting. This might be my memory messing things up, but I remember seeing the phone turn off and thinking "huh, the AP is still up". Perhaps I was plugged into USB and I was fooling myself :p.

I'm not sure what the best option for this would be, as normally you would want wifi to turn off if the phone goes to sleep. How do native devices handle this? Does the screen stay on and the phone is prevented from sleeping, or is it a partial sleep where ARM11 is still awake, but just the screen is off...?

This is what I thought happened, screen would turn off but ARM11 would stay up. Perhaps I was connected to USB, and I'm just crazy :p. It's entirely possible.

ndno 03-14-2011 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 2068560)
Stable it is not - the other wifi tethering options might be more stable, I found I prefer USB tethering to wifi tethering, but that's what I use for tethering because I can charge and tether at the same time :D.

Huh, this is interesting. This might be my memory messing things up, but I remember seeing the phone turn off and thinking "huh, the AP is still up". Perhaps I was plugged into USB and I was fooling myself :p.

I'm not sure what the best option for this would be, as normally you would want wifi to turn off if the phone goes to sleep. How do native devices handle this? Does the screen stay on and the phone is prevented from sleeping, or is it a partial sleep where ARM11 is still awake, but just the screen is off...?

This is what I thought happened, screen would turn off but ARM11 would stay up. Perhaps I was connected to USB, and I'm just crazy :p. It's entirely possible.

Yeah, if I have to tether I prefer Usb; wifi is more convenient but it's a battery killer (at least with usb, you're keeping the phone charge :)) I think when I'm charging (either power adapter or usb via pc), I don't think the phone completely goes to sleep. You or wistilt2 may have a better idea. I'll have to try wifi tethering while charging to see if it still works when the screen goes blank.

Under winmo, using vin's neo rom, wifi tethering still works when the phone goes to "sleep".


Sent from my FRX05-ized TP2


EDIT: OK, I've confirmed that when hooked up to charger and the screen goes blank (green light blinking), wifi tethering still works. After I pulled the charging cable, the green LED blinks for a little more and then goes solid; at this point, wifi tethering stops working. I then plugged the charging cable back in (screen still blank/off) and viola, wifi tethering works again. So arrrghhh, since you have your TP2 hooked up to the USB cable (charging), wifi tethering will work when it goes to sleep (IMO, it's a different sleep than when it's not being charged, one that allows the wifi hardware to continue working).

EDIT: Also confirmed that when disabling wifi tethering, my TP2 rebooted back to WinMo; the first time it was a lockup.

defiantone 03-15-2011 09:27 AM

Re: Wireless Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 2068432)
Ok, let's break this down.

If wifi doesn't work for you, wifi tethering certainly won't. So let's figure out why wifi is broken - have you changed the kernel (zImage) or modules (modules-xxxx-tar.gz) at all? If so, you must be careful to ensure that the modules match the zImage - they are packaged together.

In addition to that, you also must make sure you remove old kernels/modules lest you mix them up!

So let's start with that - get wifi workin, then we can look into wifi tethering.

If worse comes to worse, crap the newest bundle of FRX05 - doesn't need anything to get cam working or wifi working, assuming you just drop the build on your card with no modifications ;).

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Very strange. I can't get wifi to turn on. It works on the winmobile side as well as wireless tetheing, but when I boot xandroid.. it stays on 'turning on' I reformated my sd card.. re-downloaded fRX05.. it was the only thing on my card and it still didn't work.. I read in the FAQ that if you turn on wifi on the winmobile side , then booted xandroid that wifi will work. Did not for me.
Anyway, thanks to all of you who tried to help. I'm not going to worry about it any longer.

arrrghhh 03-15-2011 11:40 AM

Re: Wireless Tethering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ndno (Post 2068564)
EDIT: OK, I've confirmed that when hooked up to charger and the screen goes blank (green light blinking), wifi tethering still works. After I pulled the charging cable, the green LED blinks for a little more and then goes solid; at this point, wifi tethering stops working. I then plugged the charging cable back in (screen still blank/off) and viola, wifi tethering works again. So arrrghhh, since you have your TP2 hooked up to the USB cable (charging), wifi tethering will work when it goes to sleep (IMO, it's a different sleep than when it's not being charged, one that allows the wifi hardware to continue working).

EDIT: Also confirmed that when disabling wifi tethering, my TP2 rebooted back to WinMo; the first time it was a lockup.

Yea, disabling it does odd things as I recall. Need to look into that...

As for the charger part - it makes sense. Phone can't sleep completely and charge itself ;).

Quote:

Originally Posted by defiantone (Post 2068848)
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Very strange. I can't get wifi to turn on. It works on the winmobile side as well as wireless tetheing, but when I boot xandroid.. it stays on 'turning on' I reformated my sd card.. re-downloaded fRX05.. it was the only thing on my card and it still didn't work.. I read in the FAQ that if you turn on wifi on the winmobile side , then booted xandroid that wifi will work. Did not for me.
Anyway, thanks to all of you who tried to help. I'm not going to worry about it any longer.

Didn't change the kernel at all? You certainly don't need to turn wifi on in WinMo... That's not in the XDAndroid FAQ, must be from Reef's ancient FAQ...

I guess if you've given up that's cool. There is another rarity that can happen with the wifi-nvram file - let me know if you want to work thru this, we can do it thru IRC sometime so it's a little easier if you wish!

fishingmedic 03-16-2011 08:52 AM

Re: Wireless Tethering
 
I just started mine and when I shut it down, it still showed it was active in the taskbar, yet it wasn't, then just rebooted back to android.

ndno 03-16-2011 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishingmedic (Post 2069261)
I just started mine and when I shut it down, it still showed it was active in the taskbar, yet it wasn't, then just rebooted back to android.

Yep, like manekineko and I have experienced, it's not stable yet.

Sent from my FRX05-ized TP2


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