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jtizz

12-02-2010 02:44 AM

Why?? no total flash of droid to tp2

will there ever be a total flash for the tp2 with the droid O.S](*,):protest:

stupid question but had to ask. :headbang:

thayer

12-02-2010 08:23 AM

Re: Why?? no total flash of droid to tp2

What is NAND booting?
NAND booting uses code on the NAND to boot directly into Android without having Windows Mobile on the device. Currently, zImage and initrd.gz are stored on the internal NAND while the modules, rootfs, ext2, and data are stored on the SD card.

I'd say thats close enough. In this case, android is the only OS on the device.

demonlordoftheround

12-02-2010 09:29 AM

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 8.12; MSIEMobile6.0) Sprint T7380)

And of course it is a work in progress, but it is getting closer every day.

Miami_Son

12-02-2010 01:37 PM

Re: Why?? no total flash of droid to tp2

The fact that BT is not yet working would probably stop anyone from having XDAndroid as their sole operating system.

tiger2wander

12-02-2010 02:46 PM

Re: Why?? no total flash of droid to tp2

Yep, NAND testing is going to get more closer to have a completely Android ROM on TP2. But we have biggest problem is: can not access WinMo Internal Storage, BTW NAND boot project has only zImage and initrd on that ROM, everything else such as: system, rootfs, data still use external SDCard to store.

I'm looking and hoping much on this project to bring my TP2 to have Android work on it, because of I can not find any device with perfect hardware full qwerty keyboard and tilt adjustable screen like TP2 have :headbang:

natemcnutty

12-02-2010 06:45 PM

Re: Why?? no total flash of droid to tp2

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger2wander (Post 2005995)

And I think moving things like ext2 and rootfs to NAND is possible using the NBH creation tool, but the pathing would be all off since everything looks to the SD Card for those files. It would take a lot of re-writing things to point to the right place.

tiger2wander

12-09-2010 01:32 PM

Re: Why?? no total flash of droid to tp2

AFAIK put ext2 and rootfs to NAND is posible too and easy to do but the real problem is linux kernel for TP2 is not yet implemented to access that memory, NAND, only kernel and initrd are placed on NAND and it will be put to RAM when the phone is booted then no access anymore to NAND :(

Another way is some guru can write a bootloader for it to control the way to select what address to load kernel and OS like grub bootloader did on PC. BTW we will have really native Android and everything on TP2, eg. multiple OS on mobile such as WM & Android together and can select to boot. But this way is really hard caused by the bootloader and WM OS is closed source and we must RE it to understand how it work and modify it to do such things!

arrrghhh

12-09-2010 01:44 PM

Re: Why?? no total flash of droid to tp2

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger2wander (Post 2010471)

AFAIK put ext2 and rootfs to NAND is posible too and easy to do but the real problem is linux kernel for TP2 is not yet implemented to access that memory, NAND, only kernel and initrd are placed on NAND and it will be put to RAM when the phone is booted then no access anymore to NAND :(

Another way is some guru can write a bootloader for it to control the way to select what address to load kernel and OS like grub bootloader did on PC. BTW we will have really native Android and everything on TP2, eg. multiple OS on mobile such as WM & Android together and can select to boot. But this way is really hard caused by the bootloader and WM OS is closed source and we must RE it to understand how it work and modify it to do such things!

You hit the nail on the head with that last one. We don't have too many wizards at reverse engineering... It's not a very simple task. Same reason haret progress is so slow.

tiger2wander

12-09-2010 02:15 PM

Re: Why?? no total flash of droid to tp2

yep, so we need to get 'head hunting' for some guru in RE to help us ;-)

in another side, did you try to use fastboot from HTC, and may we can RE/Disassembly something inside ROM come from official HTC Android's phone, as I see it has a rom.zip contain: (HTC Desire ROM)

Code:

boot.img

radio.img

rcdata.img

recovery.img

system.img

userdata.img

hboot_8x50_0.93.0001_20100810.nb0

splash1.nb0

splash2.nb0

android-info.txt

I think we can get some useful information from files such as: boot.img, recovery.img. I'll try to open and see what's damn things inside it. We may get some lucky ;-)

And the great tool I recommended to guys want to RE it is DataRescue IDA with Hex-Rays Decompiler plugin. That is a great tool I ever know and use. Get more information here: IDA Pro Disassembler - multi-processor, windows hosted disassembler and debugger

Good luck, guys!

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