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Miami_Son 11-26-2010 06:03 PM

Glad I tried it, but...
 
I don't think I am a fan of Android. I admit, I was enthused, at first, but after spending a few days playing around with XDAndroid on my Tilt 2, I'm convinced that I'm in no hurry to upgrade my phone. I've been a WinMo user since 2003, so I'm pretty familiar with its strengths and weaknesses and how to overcome most of them. Droid does some things well (reflowing web pages when zooming is one), but it seems more like a Mac to me in the way that a lot of the OS is inaccessible to the user unlike WinMo. As a tinkerer/modder, I feel like WinMo lets me get under the hood easier and better and in more ways. I'm sure my short exposure to Android is probably not unbiased, but I just couldn't find the customizability level that WinMo has built-in to it. It looks good, it worked OK (a bit sluggish, horrendous battery usage and no BT didn't let me really enjoy it), but it just felt too rigid compared to the flexibility I'm used to with WinMo.

I do have to give props to the people behind porting this to work on my Tilt 2. I'm sure it wasn't easy. Thanks to all you developers who share your talents here and on XDA. Gonna play with it a little more, but I'm no longer feeling any Droid envy.:mrgreen:

MrPib 11-26-2010 08:14 PM

Re: Glad I tried it, but...
 
To paraphrase Tim Allan, I'd rather pound my nuts flat with a hammer than use WinMob one more day. Why does it take 8 seconds between the time you hit the End button and when it actually disconnects? WHAT IS IT DOING???

Android rocks!

demonlordoftheround 11-26-2010 09:50 PM

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XDAndroid works good for what it is. It really isn't fully Android and has lots of issues.

Miami_Son 11-26-2010 10:10 PM

Re: Glad I tried it, but...
 
It was good enough to show me that there is a viable replacement and that I can wait for it.:)

sp4rtan5 11-26-2010 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miami_Son (Post 2002727)
It was good enough to show me that there is a viable replacement and that I can wait for it.:)

Wow! You are like my twin brother. I had a tp2,touch pro, touch. And installed all the xandroid builds on them. I found warm donut 1.6 worked the best but outdated. And I was on the same boat, "this is awful! Its not as fast as I thought it would be.no reg? No hacks? Junk!" Then I happen to try 2.1 eclair on galaxy s. Omg! 10000000000 times better than the ports out there! I was blown away by the performace on a device designed for android. I was shocked how fast out performed. Dude... Trust me. Xandroid is 5% of what the real Android is. Trust me.

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Miami_Son 11-26-2010 10:42 PM

Re: Glad I tried it, but...
 
I didn't say Android was bad, just that it isn't so Earth-shattering that I have to have it right now. I'll probably end up with an Android phone, but XDAndroid convinced me that I can keep using my Tilt 2 awhile longer and need not rush to replace it right now. I was eligible for an upgrade last month, but I think I will wait a few more.

josidhe 11-27-2010 03:10 AM

Re: Glad I tried it, but...
 
That's a shame. As a former user of WinMo, and an Android user for a year or so now, Windows Mobile 6.x is like looking at the world through a peephole while Android is like standing on top of a skyscraper. While it isn't the end-all-be-all of OSes, and is still at risk of losing the game in the long run (like so many open-source temporary commercial successes), in the face of Windows Mobile, it's a total mobile revolution.

sp4rtan5 11-27-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miami_Son (Post 2002743)
I didn't say Android was bad, just that it isn't so Earth-shattering that I have to have it right now. I'll probably end up with an Android phone, but XDAndroid convinced me that I can keep using my Tilt 2 awhile longer and need not rush to replace it right now. I was eligible for an upgrade last month, but I think I will wait a few more.

If you can get your hands on any galaxy s phone, you will understand what I meant. Xandroid is nice to just see how android is. But real android on galaxy s, is just incredible.

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Miami_Son 11-27-2010 12:41 PM

Re: Glad I tried it, but...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sp4rtan5 (Post 2002931)
If you can get your hands on any galaxy s phone, you will understand what I meant. Xandroid is nice to just see how android is. But real android on galaxy s, is just incredible.

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So why, according to your profile, are you on an iPhone?:mrgreen:

sp4rtan5 11-27-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miami_Son (Post 2002946)
So why, according to your profile, are you on an iPhone?:mrgreen:

Too lazy to change it. :)

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shaggylive 11-27-2010 06:28 PM

Re: Glad I tried it, but...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPib (Post 2002691)
Why does it take 8 seconds between the time you hit the End button and when it actually disconnects? WHAT IS IT DOING???

there's a hack for that. :) http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-vogue/...tml#post224254

gTen 11-27-2010 08:28 PM

Re: Glad I tried it, but...
 
How can Android not be tweak-able when its open source..aka you can modify anything....if anything Android has more potential for tweaking then winmo..but like all new things it has a learning curve..

That said if upgrading is the concern...its the hardware the in the end justifies it..both winmo and Android run a lot better on a 1 ghz processor..mostly if they have GPU drivers working as well..

mlin 11-27-2010 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miami_Son (Post 2002648)
...a lot of the OS is inaccessible to the user unlike WinMo. As a tinkerer/modder, I feel like WinMo lets me get under the hood easier and better and in more ways...

I love my EVO and its definitely the best phone I've ever used. However, I do agree with this above statement. WM had settings for absolutely everything, for example: all of the notification settings present in WM simply don't exist in android and I haven't found an app that gives me the same control. This is definitely something I appreciate about windows machines across the board is this ability to personalize. This is not to say android does not offer the same level of customization, and in fact android may offer more. But, this ability to tweak system settings in the same way just doesn't seem to exist.

With all this said, I would never consider going back to wm. The day to day user experience is just so much worse, even with the additional settings...



Tapa tapa tapa

simon21 11-27-2010 10:06 PM

Re: Glad I tried it, but...
 
i have a hero (up for sale) and my wife has an evo and iagree with the op. i'm sticking with my tp2 for now

sp4rtan5 11-28-2010 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 2003135)
How can Android not be tweak-able when its open source..aka you can modify anything....if anything Android has more potential for tweaking then winmo..but like all new things it has a learning curve..

That said if upgrading is the concern...its the hardware the in the end justifies it..both winmo and Android run a lot better on a 1 ghz processor..mostly if they have GPU drivers working as well..

Aha! Got you! Know do u see why I screamed my lungs out about htc crippling ms72xx cpu's? Everyone trolled me for pointing that out. Isn't it better when we have a gpu that actually has the drivers?

Just like the other llama said. "why does it take 8 seconds to close when I hit close? What's out doing?"


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sp4rtan5 11-28-2010 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlin (Post 2003167)
I love my EVO and its definitely the best phone I've ever used. However, I do agree with this above statement. WM had settings for absolutely everything, for example: all of the notification settings present in WM simply don't exist in android and I haven't found an app that gives me the same control. This is definitely something I appreciate about windows machines across the board is this ability to personalize. This is not to say android does not offer the same level of customization, and in fact android may offer more. But, this ability to tweak system settings in the same way just doesn't seem to exist.

With all this said, I would never consider going back to wm. The day to day user experience is just so much worse, even with the additional settings...



Tapa tapa tapa

Amen llama.


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sp4rtan5 11-28-2010 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp4rtan5 (Post 2003331)
Amen llama.
P.s. My condolences for your evo. Lol


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userme 11-28-2010 02:53 AM

Re: Glad I tried it, but...
 
I order htc evo from ebay and the guy sent me an evo but forgot the battery. I'll have to wait 2 more weeks of pain and suffering from wm. Can't wait til i get rid of wm.

gTen 11-28-2010 07:59 AM

Re: Glad I tried it, but...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by userme (Post 2003340)
I order htc evo from ebay and the guy sent me an evo but forgot the battery. I'll have to wait 2 more weeks of pain and suffering from wm. Can't wait til i get rid of wm.

If you have a Touch Pro 2 I hear the battery is the same...aka TP2 battery works on EVO...

userme 11-28-2010 01:13 PM

Re: Glad I tried it, but...
 
Thanks! I never knew that...I feel stupid..

demonlordoftheround 11-28-2010 02:09 PM

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That's ok, who would have thunk it.

MrPib 11-28-2010 03:55 PM

Re: Glad I tried it, but...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sp4rtan5 (Post 2003328)
Just like the other llama said. "why does it take 8 seconds to close when I hit close? What's out doing?"

I would *never* say "What's out doing". I've also mastered the subtle difference between "know" and "now". Not bad for a llama, eh?

sp4rtan5 11-29-2010 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonlordoftheround (Post 2003529)
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That's ok, who would have thunk it.


Thunk it? Lol.


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otterit 11-30-2010 06:10 PM

Re: Glad I tried it, but...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Miami_Son (Post 2002743)
I didn't say Android was bad, just that it isn't so Earth-shattering that I have to have it right now. I'll probably end up with an Android phone, but XDAndroid convinced me that I can keep using my Tilt 2 awhile longer and need not rush to replace it right now. I was eligible for an upgrade last month, but I think I will wait a few more.

Agreed! I can still make calls, send text messages, check email, browse the web, AND TETHER without any problems. I don't use my phone to play games or waste my time or $$ on apps.

No need to change phones any time soon.


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