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Originally Posted by ScrapMaker
@ Anonymatt
The fact that you were able to come in at under 400mAh for an entire day, (on your old phone,) tells me that you don't use push email or exchange...
Also, your radio usage of 475 is lower than I expected--- I saw nearly 700 sometimes.
Everything revolves around the radio, and in the case of the TP, it's practically defective--based on the software/firmware in it that causes such a drain...
My Sprint Touch uses 290ma with the screen on the 3rd-lowest brightness, during a phone call... with zero/one bar of signal, in a server room filled with buko RF.
With device on, with Dashwire, Seven(Gmail,) Exchange, GPSToday, and S2U2 running, my Touch uses ~100ma/73ma (if the screen dims.)
That's in this 0-1 bar area... Whereas, I had the Pro, and in this same exact spot, it was drawing 2-3 times more power.
Clearly something is wrong with the radio in the TP. Not sure if it's just software, or if it's the hardware itself... I give it a huge sad-face.
edit: I almost forgot about Instant Messager. I am ALWAYS connected--regardless.
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You are right, I don't use push e-mail, but I previously did have it set up to check my e-mail on a scheduled basis. On my Treo, this would kill the battery about as fast as it kills my battery on the Touch Pro. Also, I found it impossible to go even a half day with the Instant Messenger always connected.
Of course these are 2 things that I really want in a phone, but I (personally) haven't seen a phone that lasts a long time with push/frequent e-mail and Instant Messenger on. I know with my Treo, my battery would be dead in a day when I had IM open, and it would definitely drain faster with e-mail (though it depended on how frequent). It all became moot when I got sick of how low the memory was, and basically reverted it to a dumbphone with PDA functionality, and very infrequent internet checking.
Right now, though, I am trying to assess how different things affect battery life on the Touch Pro, and I've been slowly making changes or adding programs, and then giving it 2-3 charge cycles to get an estimate of the impact, and also checking the battery drain using the Batt Log program. I currently haven't set up anything that frequently uses the data connection as I already know that is a huge drain.
One more thing about radio draw: I recall getting something closer to 600+ mA previously (before I hard reset to "start over"), but now it hovers just under 500 mA when I use it. Perhaps before I had something else installed that was routinely using another 1-200 mA.
My point with all of this, though, wasn't to say that the Touch Pro battery is great, but that it isn't much worse than my previous devices (in non-phone call/data usage at least). You seem to be making a similar conclusion, and obviously the phone radio is a VERY important aspect of a phone :-p and as I said before, I can't even get close to the rated talk time of 4 hours, even if I was under the perfect conditions.
I am still hopeful, however, that a future software (or hardware...can always try exchanging if need be) fix comes and solves this issue.
Just out of curiosity, since you have gone back to your Vogue, but if you run the BattLog (or the Neupower log), how much power do your phone and data radios draw? (like what is the draw during a call, and what is your draw without making a call, so we can see the difference in mA usage) I haven't seen any reports of what the radio draw is on these other phones, and so I just am assuming that the numbers I see for the TP are bad.