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Re: A call to arms - Windows 7 phone succeeds

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Originally Posted by testacon View Post
My point exactly, so why buy it now? Your rewarding Microsoft for releasing a phone that is YEARS behind the competition in many, many aspects and feature sets.

If Microsoft has the money and the patience to be persistent and 2 years down the road releases a phone correcting all the issues like, allowing users customizations, has tons of apps and finally on all 4 of the major US carriers, then maybe it's time. But a 2 year contract for this now, I just don't get it personally.

We've waited all these years since WM6.5 and I don't think the OS is polished enough to overtake Apple or Android right now.

Here are a few things though to keep your eye on though:

1.) How long will they support a specific Phone? Is it going to be as good as Apple's commitment in keeping ~3 years on devices? It has to be able to beat Android because Google and the carriers sucks in this category...

2.) Haven't heard a damn thing about APP rejection, does that mean that MS hasn't rejected any yet or that no one cares about MS APPS yet? Apple can't reject anything without getting in the news, just heard about Sony E-Reader for example...

3.) When will we start seeing APPS to access companies resources, i.e. TV, weather, radio, movie theaters, shopping etc. No Pandora even planned--Flabbergasted!! I saw a post in here that said WE should tell companies we want APPS, really, you mean a billion of dollars worth of advertisements isn't doing the job already?!

4.) How long before we see 4G or LTE devices? 3G only is soooo 2005/6 for a smart device...

5.) What has the development community done other than break the DRM? Any custom ROMS yet, any word on when or even IF?

To me this is one of those cases where BLEEDING edge isn't always better then LEADING edge and there is a pool of blood forming behind the WP7 sign since that we aren't being saved quick enough by our phones, can I get a band-aid here?
Actually, if you ever visit the App Hub dev forums, apps are getting kicked back left and right for not conforming to some pretty strict performance guidelines. MS wants apps in their Marketplace, but they don't want apps that are going to kill the experience of the phone.

And as far as getting in touch with companies about creating apps, yes contacting them makes a difference. You think people didn't contact companies about creating iPhone apps/Android apps? I guarantee you they did, so now they're waiting to see if ppl are lookign for WP7 versions, to gauge if it's worth it.

And either Engadget or PocketNow just posted an article a day or two ago about custom WP7 ROMs for the HD2. They've also been able to break into the file system. Let's talk Chevron unlocker. Let's talk wifi tethering. Don't be so quick to speak bad about the dev community.

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Well regardless... they both seem to be at the bottom and not seeing much improvement in terms of sales.
Let's break this down. WinMo has been around for a LOOOONG time. WP7 has been around for a little over ONE quarter. And overall WP7 sales are only 2% behind WinMo?! So WP7 went from NOTHING, to a fairly significant milestone breaking sales that close to WinMo. I would say that is "much improvement" IMHO...

I agree w/Aztechka that people need to get over the win/fail judgements. I personally can't think of a single thing that has been such a massive hit that it owned the #1 spot the first day, or even the first quarter, and very few in the first year. It's a time battle. If you don't like it, don't get it. But as already stated, MS isn't out to please the geeks. The geeks will please themselves. It doesn't matter how much ANY OS caters to the geeks, the geeks will still hack it and change it. MS is after market share, which is something the geeks provide very little of.

My $.02...
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