Piracy, warez and You. - Page 20

BoSoxFan · #**191** (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 01:34 AM

while i am not supporting warez as we know none of us do these things.

... if your post was true then we would not have apps or games for Windows OS either! there is much more warez going on for Windows Desktop/Laptop systems than mobile but they keep making them b/c realize this, all the people on here doing what we do, we are most likely less than 1% of the users of these phones, we are not hurting marketing that much....

**pixelpower** · #**192** (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 02:08 AM

ok to answer all your statements
1) i put this topic here because i was talking about pocket pc software otherwise yes i would have put it on off topic.
2)for the person that said 'nice proof' if you noticed for the newer pocket pc WVGA 6.5 type there is a huge slowdown of games and apps being made THE PROOF IS obvious
3) one person said if there is games like there is for iphone ... well iam assuming the person knows a little about programming it takes a long time to create a quality 3D game like resident evil ...if a developer is scared that he wont make money because of cracked games he will not spend time and money on big production.
4) to the person who says most things are thought of......yes that is true but will the same things avalible for newer pocket pc be made for future pocket pc that is the point iam trying to make.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and insight i hope other developers join in this topic i thank you all for your opinion.

**lipidfats** · #**193** (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 04:45 AM

There is hacking on any platform, so i don't think it's about warez. The great game developers most likely moved on to iPhone and Android. Those devices are centered around entertainment. WM is business first.

rcrawfo2 · #**194** (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 07:08 AM

Um this thread is pointless....Pirated software has and will always exist. THis is not do to WM at all. Most of us can down load thousands of games/software for IPHONE for free that have been cracked...WM devices there are very few apps that are cracked that actually work. The apps that are cracked for WM, 95% are BS and no one even downloads those....So this would be a nice title if it was in the Iphone forum "if i cared" but not relevant for WM.

**redd214** · #**195** (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 10:28 AM

more of an opinion than proof bud

Decadance · #**196** (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 10:32 AM

Maybe a reason why producers do not make WM games is because there is not enough of a market for them, whereas with Driod and Iphone there is...

Sounds significantly more plausibly than the pirates killed the market. For your statement to be true, at one point, a market had to exist, and it simply has not.

Awesome proof, though.

**mindfrost82** · #**197** (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 10:43 AM

I agree that there's not much proof, but more of an opinion.

Warez exists on every platform, as others have said. Jailbreak your iPhone and there are sites where you can get cracked games/apps just like you can for WM.

As someone else mentioned, WM was originally geared towards business use only, just like Blackberry. You don't see many quality games for Blackberry either, not even the Storm that has a touchscreen and accelerometer. They figured business users don't need games and they just need functional apps, which is true. They probably don't care about aesthetics as much as functionality.

Also, WVGA devices are fairly new. There were none on the market a year ago. Just like the change from QVGA to VGA, it takes time. WVGA will get developed just as VGA has. That's another issue with WM. There's many different devices with different resolutions and different hardware specs. The iPhone doesn't have this. Its all the same in the eyes of the developers. Android will run into this issue too.

But it all falls back onto the fact that Android and the iPhone were designed around the casual user, not the business user. As WM moves in that direction and becomes more mainstream, this should change, hopefully, if WM7 is all its expected to be.

**pixelpower** · #**198** (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 10:47 AM

Ok great answers i realized i made a big mistake in the title and i didnt explain myself well enough. I apologize if i wasted anyones time as i just wanted to get a debate going but seems like everyone agreeds that windows mobile is not a great platform for games. I honestly thought it was but i was wrong about that also. I will say that all in all iam glad because i did come to realize that i should start focusing on making Iphone and androids games. Probaly they also have better tools to make more complete games and apps. So i did learn something so for me this wasnt a waste of time. I thank you all for your opinions on this matter.

**redd214** · #**199** (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 10:49 AM

your games are free anyways so piracy wouldnt even be an issue for you right?!

iwillfearnoevil · #**200** (**permalink**) 12-03-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by redd214

your games are free anyways so piracy wouldnt even be an issue for you right?!

he said that he doesn't want to make longer/bigger games as they would be pirated and not worth his time. instead he makes demos or short games. i also think the problem is there was no central marketplace until recently and i have no clue how windows marketplace will help sales.