Petition to Sprint to enable the GPS on the 6800

[boe]

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Please post here if you want the GPS on the 6800 to be enabled so we don't have to buy a seperate GPS unit. THe 6700 had a GPS but Sprint disabled it so they could sell their direction service monthly fee.

http://forums.buzzaboutwireless.com/...jump=true#M343

[sniffs]

You're serious? Omg.. the GPS device in the 6700 is an AGPS (Asynchronous) device, usable ONLY for E911 situations. It's not a synchronous GPS device meaning it can only speak to the satallites 1 way, not 2 way like a usable GPS device can.

In laimans terms, it can send coordinates, not recieve.

[boe]

Originally Posted by sniffs

You're serious? Omg.. the GPS device in the 6700 is an AGPS (Asynchronous) device, usable ONLY for E911 situations. It's not a synchronous GPS device meaning it can only speak to the satallites 1 way, not 2 way like a usable GPS device can.

In laimans terms, it can send coordinates, not recieve.

The poster of the Verizon phone in PDAphones home did not have to dial 911 to get his GPS info - http://stuff.michiganbroadband.com/x...s/DSCF0201.jpg

[gbm85]

Originally Posted by sniffs

You're serious? Omg.. the GPS device in the 6700 is an AGPS (Asynchronous) device, usable ONLY for E911 situations. It's not a synchronous GPS device meaning it can only speak to the satallites 1 way, not 2 way like a usable GPS device can.

In laimans terms, it can send coordinates, not recieve.

The "A" in AGPS stands for Assisted, not Asynchronous. No GPS device is capable of "speaking" to GPS satelites. GPS satelites only transmit a time code, they don't receive anything (except instructions from the military, but that's a completely different matter). What AGPS means is that the phone needs a cellular signal in order to receive a GPS fix.

I'm wondering what sort of magic you think goes on in the phone that makes it capable of sending coordinates that it doesn't even have, since you say it cannot receive the coordinates in the first place.

[willysp]

Originally Posted by boe

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Please post here if you want the GPS on the 6800 to be enabled so we don't have to buy a seperate GPS unit. THe 6700 had a GPS but Sprint disabled it so they could sell their direction service monthly fee.

http://forums.buzzaboutwireless.com/...jump=true#M343

I doubt the 6800 has a true GPS (i.e. speed, power, sensitivity, multiple satellites) - probably AGPS like the 6700.

Petitioning Sprint for support/features has to be an excercise in futility - e.g. as we all know, Sprint's latest AKU for 6700 is still 2.x.

[Big D5]

I am going to move this over to the Titan forum seams like the best place for this discussion

[B18DelSolT]

[quote="willysp"]

Originally Posted by boe

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I doubt the 6800 has a true GPS (i.e. speed, power, sensitivity, multiple satellites) - probably AGPS like the 6700.

Petitioning Sprint for support/features has to be an excercise in futility - e.g. as we all know, Sprint's latest AKU for 6700 is still 2.x.

I emailed HTC about a Windows Mobile 6 upgrade... the interesting thing was that without askin about GPS the rep told me that GPS is possible with a software upgrade, but is upto the carrier to request it.

So that doesn't mean really anything other than the device is capable of doing it.


That came from Howardforums.com.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...1&page=4&pp=15

[xmind2006]

I'm sure this coming from the fact that the hardware is indeed capable of opering the GPS in a stand-alone mode without cellular towers/service present by actually receiving Satillite Signals! The main application of this integrated GPS in the Qualcomm processor is for AGPS, but the stand alone mode is one of 4 differnet modes.

See here:
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_lib...00_chipset.pdf
and here:
http://www.cdmatech.com/technologies/gpsone.jsp

Granted it is no SiRF III chipset, but it's supposed to work.

I highly doubt a big Carrier will ever support activating the stand alone mode if they offer a pay-per-month service that utilizes the AGPS for that phone.

This unfortunately is the same situation the 6700 is/was in and unfortunately it'll be a sore point for many until the 6900 comes out ...and beyond.....

[sledgie]

boe, can you please point me in the direction to back up your statement that Sprint deliberately disabld the gpsOne unit in the 6700? if you don't have any hard evidence, all it is is naysay, or as you call it, "bogus".

that being said, everyone please refer to this link about discussion of the gpsOne unit on board. it is not likely we will be able to use it as a fully operational gps, and for all intents and purposes, it doesn't seem like sprint disabled it. HTC either enables it for everyone (sprint verizon telus alltel) or doesn't - but there isn't an instruction set to write programs with, as of now, in order for us to benefit from it.

http://www.ppcgeeks.com/size-compari...azr-t4542.html

ok now lets stop this silly talk and realize we can't use it even if we wanted to.
sledgie

[moats75]

at the product training we had on wednesday the HTC rep said that there will be no need to use a puck as the GPS will be usable for navigation and turned on out of the box.