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Old 09-11-2008, 11:26 AM
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Well, now this sounds interesting. I apprecaite the feedback AND the encouragement.

Example: 1-Calc Lite

The default initflashes.txt for 1-Calc Lite copies while renaming the program shortcut from
SOURCE: \Windows\Program.1-Calc.lnk
TARGET: \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\1-Calc Lite.lnk
Code:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-File("1-Calc Lite.lnk", "\Windows\Program.1-Calc.lnk")
So, without going into PPCGeeks_OEM.RAR, I am trying to override this particular action. Do I do this by moving the item? If so, what is the syntax for moving an item via initflashes.txt

SOURCE: \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\1-Calc Lite.lnk
TARGET: \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Accessories\1-Calc Lite.lnk

Code:
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Accessories"):-File("1-Calc Lite.lnk", "\Windows\Program.1-Calc.lnk")
exactly.
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I guess you could also just redirect the initial item and then delete the one created by the PPCGeeks_OEM.rar? In this case, what would be the syntax for deleting an item?
sadly, there isn't a syntax for removing a file using initflashfiles.txt. You'll have to come up with an alternate solution (I can think of 2).

Of course, a syntax could always be added...
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Re: ppckitchen - Tips and Tricks - Share YOURS here!

So you've helped me to understand how one can use a OrganizeStartMenu_OEM.RAR to copy elements into alternate locations in the Start Menu. The original PPCGeeks_OEM.RAR goes untouched, so in our example we end up with:

via PPCGeeks_OEM.RAR
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\1-Calc Lite.lnk
via OrganizeStartMenu_OEM.RAR
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Accessories\1-Calc Lite.lnk

The two methods I can think of to alleviate this are to:
a) use initflashes.txt to MOVE the item as opposed to copying an additional item
b) use initflahses.txt to DELETE (which you have stated is not currently supported)

Sorry to be so repetitive ... can initflashes.txt be used to MOVE an item?

I guess the other option is to start a project to rework the PPCGeeks_OEM.RAR so that all of the initflashes.txt files direct the shortcut links to alternate locations.

You mentioned that you could think of two alternate solutions. Am I close?

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Re: ppckitchen - Tips and Tricks - Share YOURS here!

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So you've helped me to understand how one can use a OrganizeStartMenu_OEM.RAR to copy elements into alternate locations in the Start Menu. The original PPCGeeks_OEM.RAR goes untouched, so in our example we end up with:

via PPCGeeks_OEM.RAR
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\1-Calc Lite.lnk
via OrganizeStartMenu_OEM.RAR
\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Accessories\1-Calc Lite.lnk

The two methods I can think of to alleviate this are to:
a) use initflashes.txt to MOVE the item as opposed to copying an additional item
b) use initflahses.txt to DELETE (which you have stated is not currently supported)

Sorry to be so repetitive ... can initflashes.txt be used to MOVE an item?

I guess the other option is to start a project to rework the PPCGeeks_OEM.RAR so that all of the initflashes.txt files direct the shortcut links to alternate locations.

You mentioned that you could think of two alternate solutions. Am I close?

Best regards,
-boggsie
This is one of the ones on my list... There is a tutorial already done, but I'll provide an OEM and a modified initflashfiles.dat to replace the one in the kitchens archive. Basically I'm going to take all the start menu contents out of the initflashfiles.dat file and move them to an OEM's initflashfiles.txt and reorder them. The same should work for all the 20xxx roms, but I'll double check that as well. It will be up to you to comment out the startmenu contents out of the oem's you use and copy it to the new initflashfiles.dat...
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I guess the other option is to start a project to rework the PPCGeeks_OEM.RAR so that all of the initflashes.txt files direct the shortcut links to alternate locations.
that's option 1. You should also double flush after thinking it.

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You mentioned that you could think of two alternate solutions. Am I close?
What's the other method of moving files around?

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This is one of the ones on my list... There is a tutorial already done, but I'll provide an OEM and a modified initflashfiles.dat to replace the one in the kitchens archive. Basically I'm going to take all the start menu contents out of the initflashfiles.dat file and move them to an OEM's initflashfiles.txt and reorder them. The same should work for all the 20xxx roms, but I'll double check that as well. It will be up to you to comment out the startmenu contents out of the oem's you use and copy it to the new initflashfiles.dat...
I think the desire is to accomplish this without going into the existing RARs.

It would seem the only way to do this is with provxml.
provxml removing possible excel links:
Code:
        <characteristic type="%CE17%\Excel Mobile.lnk" translation="install">
            <characteristic type="Delete">
                <parm name="ForceDelete"/>
            </characteristic>
        </characteristic>
        <characteristic type="%CE11%\Office Mobile\Excel Mobile.lnk" translation="install">
            <characteristic type="Delete">
                <parm name="ForceDelete"/>
            </characteristic>
        </characteristic>
        <characteristic type="%CE11%\Excel Mobile.lnk" translation="install">
            <characteristic type="Delete">
                <parm name="ForceDelete"/>
            </characteristic>
Can you drive provxml from an OEM the same or in a way similar to the way that initflashes.txt works?

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Re: ppckitchen - Tips and Tricks - Share YOURS here!

Yes! We have a winner!

2) make OEMs, with prov's to do the dirty work, and make the original package a requirement.
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Yes! We have a winner!

2) make OEMs, with prov's to do the dirty work, and make the original package a requirement.
The attached are a WinRAR files, but I added the zip extension so that I could upload the files and attach them to this message.

EDIT: Interesting ... Excel requires "hidden office requirements - 612345cd-2ba3-40bf-83e4-ea9173088ac9" but if you list Excel as a requirements, BuildOS does not then automatically select the requirements of Excel. I updated the Office OEM to include the secondary requirement of hidden office requirements.

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Re: ppckitchen - Tips and Tricks - Share YOURS here!

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EDIT: Interesting ... Excel requires "hidden office requirements - 612345cd-2ba3-40bf-83e4-ea9173088ac9" but if you list Excel as a requirements, BuildOS does not then automatically select the requirements of Excel. I updated the Office OEM to include the secondary requirement of hidden office requirements.
Hmmm...that shouldn't be. It's supposed to cascade.
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EDIT: Interesting ... Excel requires "hidden office requirements - 612345cd-2ba3-40bf-83e4-ea9173088ac9" but if you list Excel as a requirements, BuildOS does not then automatically select the requirements of Excel. I updated the Office OEM to include the secondary requirement of hidden office requirements.
Hmmm...that shouldn't be. It's supposed to cascade.
Well, in all fairness, I didn't do any exhaustive analysis. The only reason that I came across this is that the Office Mobile folder icon wasn't showing up. Then I saw that the Windows folder didn't have officefoldericon.lnk and I searched the RAR and saw it was in the Office Hidden folder ... looked at options.xml for word and saw the requirement. I added that guid to the option.xml for the StartMenuOffice_oem and viola, there was the icon.

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Re: ppckitchen - Tips and Tricks - Share YOURS here!

Man you guys make my head hurt.

... but I AM learning a lot!
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