Originally Posted by Scooter_in_WI (Post 236951)

I have been trying out different 6.1 ROMs lately. I am currently using JDs last version with great success. Thanks JD!

My question is how difficult would it be to cook a bare bones ROM. Nothing at all but the phone and OS on it. All of these ROMS are great in their own way and have a lot of added features that may or may not suit everyone. I would like to see one that would allow me to install the version of HTC Home or cube (if any) that I like. I don't know if it is impossible to completely strip a ROM of everything but the phone and OS but I think it would be something that a LOT of folks would appreciate.

I guess the other option would be a kitchen that would allow us to add or remove these features as we see fit.

Originally Posted by boggsie (Post 236969)

Sorry for going immediately (somewhat) off topic, but I think the missing option in your poll is the ability to use the PPCKitchen with a Touch / Vogue base kit so that you can start with your favorite cook's work as a base and then use the kitchen to add according to your personal taste and needs.

Originally Posted by Scooter_in_WI (Post 236970)

I completely agree. In a perfect "Touch World", we would have a simple base kitchen to start off with and then gp from there with our own options. This is kinda' implied with the first option in the poll but I can't change it now since folks have submitted votes. Thanks!

Originally Posted by specv (Post 237027)

i would vote for a clean rom and with a ton of posted cabs for customization to choose from. Then we can use the automatic process of running them. Or release ALL roms clean and have the SD card customizations run. Rather than disabling preinstalled stuff, allow us to edit out what we dont want installed

Originally Posted by jakdillard (Post 237181)

You guys are really funny when I first started making Roms for the vogue I made a clean rom did anybody jump on it ............... no instead I got it doesn't have touch keyboard it don't do this it don't do that .... if you follow n02chem's work you'll find that all of his titan roms are clean same with dcd they provided clean roms so that you can put whatever on it seriously I was gonna do a base kit for the ppcgeek kitchen for the vogue but its on hold ....................

Originally Posted by jakdillard (Post 237181)

<snip> ... when I first started making roms for the vogue I made a clean rom did anybody jump on it ............... no ... <snip>

I was gonna do a base kit for the ppcgeek kitchen for the vogue but its on hold ....................

Originally Posted by dan-htc-touch (Post 237173)

just use ghettofreeriders kitchen, you can add or remove whatever you want by clikking checkmarks

Originally Posted by Torx (Post 239194)

im like scooter, i dont want biotouch i never use it and its a shame htc/ms doesnt have a disable option for it. its another process/service slowing my startup

Originally Posted by boggsie (Post 239214)

I am presuming that in the PPCKitchen, this item would be selectable, so one could choose it, or leave it out, based on personal preference.

I do think (based on reading) that there is some restriction on the size of the ROM that ultimately gets loaded to the Touch. If the rom ends up being less than 50mb then it might lead to instability on the Touch. I have no experience with this, just mentioning it as it could be a consideration that the PPCKitchen team is dealing with. If you remove biotouch and cube, etc. you might very well end up with a sub-50mb rom.

Originally Posted by Scooter_in_WI (Post 239248)

I have not looked into the kitchens for the touch but has this been tried? Even the base ROMs have cube and htc home installed. If we had a completely clean ROM, we could dump that into a kitchen and add whatever we wanted.

Originally Posted by boggsie (Post 239310)

Quite honestly, if it doesn't appear as a check-box in the kitchen [ which presumably allows me to remove only (somewhat) optional ... i.e. non-core OS components ] then I'm probably going to end up leaving it in.

I am quite little of going into the SYS or OEM folders and taking things out, especially consiering that ImCoKeMan has a bricked Titan (Mogul) and Vogue (Touch) that he is in the midst of trying to resurrect.

Originally Posted by jakdillard (Post 237181)

You guys are really funny when I first started making roms for the vogue I made a clean rom did anybody jump on it ............... no instead I got it doesn't have touch keyboard it don't do this it don't do that .... if you follow n02chem's work you'll find that all of his titan roms are clean same with dcd they provided clean roms so that you can put whatever on it seriously I was gonna do a base kit for the ppcgeek kitchen for the vogue but its on hold ....................

Originally Posted by jakdillard (Post 237181)

You guys are really funny when I first started making roms for the vogue I made a clean rom did anybody jump on it ............... no instead I got it doesn't have touch keyboard it don't do this it don't do that .... if you follow n02chem's work you'll find that all of his titan roms are clean same with dcd they provided clean roms so that you can put whatever on it seriously I was gonna do a base kit for the ppcgeek kitchen for the vogue but its on hold ....................

Originally Posted by boggsie (Post 238891)

Checked it out and the Kitchen is nice. The theme support (Comm Manager, Calculator, Phone, etc.) is really top-notch.

However, and it may sound goofy, things like Solitaire and Bubble Breaker are missing and I can't see how to get it back into the Kitchen. i.e. no option

Also, there is a tweak to put a "stacked" date and clock (one on top of the other) on the top (home) bar and to set it so this shows in every application. Again, I don't see an option for this.

Another thing; there is an option for the very top to pixels to appear as a gradient (rainbow effect) to depict battery state. Sorry, but no option for this.

... and I certainly don't intend to disrespect the work of ghettofreerider or any other Chef. I'm just giving a bit of feedback regarding the feature-rich nature of the PPCKitchen.

Best regards,
-boggsie

Originally Posted by ghettofreeryder (Post 239740)

1. Solitaire and Bubble Breaker are included with my roms, in the entertainment package
2.Stacked date and clock are just a reg edit, look for it in this forum and make your own oem for it
3.the rainbow effect battery meter is vistahide or something like that. I dont use it, but it is available as an oem from many cooks

Originally Posted by boggsie (Post 239940)

Thank you for chiming in, ghettofreeryder. I'm learning and this wouldn't be happening without help from folks like you.

I don't want to be seen as trying to put words in anyones mouth, but what I think Scooter_in_WI, myself and perhaps others are looking for is a ROM similar to what DCD has going with 1.0.2. This is something like a 51mb .nbh file. Of course, all by itself, this doesn't begin to unlock the potential of the Touch, but with all of the OEMs that are available now, it makes a very good stripped-down base to start with.

Again, I can't say enough - how much I appreciate folks like you and many others who are doing all kinds of one-off roms; almost like short-order cooks. Your work is appreciated and for those folks who don't want to mess with Kitchens and OEMs, it is essential.

Best regards,
-boggsie

Originally Posted by boggsie (Post 244773)

DCD has updated his Kitchen (1.0.4) and it is completely customizable via the kitchen. You can leave out TouchFlo and the Cube.

He has a thread in the Vogue section over on xda.