Can someone explain the Hard-SPL Licensing? - Page 3

**ajac** · #21 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by soicy423

that's what i like to hear. are you gonna post on this thread?

yup right now everyone just waiting.. donating and waiting lol

AstainHellbring · #22 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiderman313

So what if you don't have internet access? your out of luck?

you PM cmonex and she'll help you out

**santod** · #23 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 05:27 PM

She actually said, probably not today. Waiting for Olipro to get home to deal with the servers. Nothing said about release day or time. Just not today probably.

**gTen** · #24 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutiny32

Edit: but it's a moot point, as it's already an illegal redistribution of HTC's code. HTC lets the community do so because the testing of pre-release code is vital to the development of better software.

Not really..there isn't much HTC can do...if you don't make any money off it..best HTC can do is get them to stop, but it is not worth the effort because HTC does not loose any money. You already bought the device, afterwards what do they care.

On the other hand, if you make money off it, thats a different story as HTC can come after you legally and take everything.

Mutiny32 · #25 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen

Not really..there isn't much HTC can do...if you don't make any money off it..best HTC can do is get them to stop, but it is not worth the effort because HTC does not loose any money. You already bought the device, afterwards what do they care.

On the other hand, if you make money off it, thats a different story as HTC can come after you legally and take everything.

HTC can always prosecute for illegal redistribution of propreitary code. Free or not. i wa saying that HTC allows this stuff to go because they need the community. They've said it before. We're their beta testers.

aaron580 · #26 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 05:42 PM

Ok so fill me in how is this Hard SPL different than the previous for the touch pro and all? I mean ya one SPL is made for a phone ik theres a difference but what is up with the licensing for the SPL? we havnt had to do that before.... Im calm, Im not gonna make a deal about an SPL being out or not because I want stock for a while anyway. Just want to know whats up is all... and if we are going to have to pay for a way to unlock the phone.

**gTen** · #27 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutiny32

HTC can always prosecute for illegal redistribution of propreitary code. Free or not. i wa saying that HTC allows this stuff to go because they need the community. They've said it before. We're their beta testers.

Why would it matter to HTC? think about it, whether you buy from sprint, Verizon, or directly..you still buy their phone...the only ones who could care are the carriers....HTC is not effected in any way. Not to mention, carriers distribute the boot loader updates as well. It is not like they are distributing source, they are distributing something thats only usable by those that bought the device. So HTC is in no way effected.

Now there is a huge difference when you try to sell stuff that is illegal over distributing it for free in legal terms its a WORLD of difference.(from slap on the hand to prison)

The moment you start to sell the modified code, give HTC a HUGE advantage if they choose to use it. Not to mention they can now come after your assets.

Mutiny32 · #28 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gTen

Why would it matter to HTC? think about it, whether you buy from sprint, Verizon, or directly..you still buy their phone...the only ones who could care are the carriers....HTC is not effected in any way. Not to mention, carriers distribute the boot loader updates as well. It is not like they are distributing source, they are distributing something thats only usable by those that bought the device. So HTC is in no way effected.

Now there is a huge difference when you try to sell stuff that is illegal over distributing it for free in legal terms its a WORLD of difference.(from slap on the hand to prison)

The moment you start to sell the modified code, give HTC a HUGE advantage if they choose to use it. Not to mention they can now come after your assets.

They would care because modification to that program has the potential break a phone and more likely than not, they would have to eat the cost of replacing the phone.

lefty11 · #29 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by santod

She actually said, probably not today. Waiting for Olipro to get home to deal with the servers. Nothing said about release day or time. Just not today probably.

how do you keep idots in suspense........?

**gTen** · #30 (**permalink**) 10-24-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutiny32

They would care because modification to that program has the potential break a phone and more likely than not, they would have to eat the cost of replacing the phone.

No...HTC does not replace phones..if you break the phone and replace it with the carrier, and carrier approves(which is paid by insurance company)..they make more money since you bought another set.

Otherwise, re-flashing your boot loader probably voids your warranty anyways.(if they notice that that is the case)