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Old 04-22-2007, 12:38 PM
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Size comparison of P4000, 6700 and RAZR

Here are a few size comparisons between the Motorola RAZR, HTC P4000 and 6700.











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Old 04-22-2007, 01:18 PM
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nice. thanks.
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Old 04-22-2007, 06:09 PM
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Thanks for the image comparisons... the 6800 is looking oh-so-nice. Now if the 6800 allows for GPS or some GPS hack, then it will be even more tempting.
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:29 PM
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it has no built in GPS. You can still use a BT GPS receiver though.
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Old 04-22-2007, 09:05 PM
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Nice Pics...thanks for taking the time to post!
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:38 PM
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it DOES have a built in GPS, but no software to use it with
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:45 PM
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Technically, every phone produced for use in the US has GPS capabilities as required by law for emergency services. However, the hardware, software, battery life, and processing capabilities for real time use with navigation is not.
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:49 PM
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Yikes guys... please let's be clear about what it has--it's a GPSOne chip, same/similar to the GPSOne chip in the 6700, 6600, and your mom's three-year-old Sanyo freebie.

Yes the chips support a mode called Standalone which does not require carrier assistance, but the mode is often disabled with no feasible way of turning it back on. It was designed from the start not to be "open" for use by Windows Mobile applications.

Is it technically possible to enable standalone mode, write drivers to plug into it and software to use it? Yes... but it takes skills and insider knowledge that I don't think are represented here (at least at the current time). Please, no one hold your breath for this. Don't purchase this phone with the expectation that you can use the GPSOne chip for your own purposes. Because likely you will just be disappointed.
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right! I had originally thought there was no API library to write software for it, but Mr. Price over at phonenews.com elaborated more about the gps units inside cdma pdas.

"Windows Mobile and Palm OS devices have no platform to enable Verizon/Sprint/Alltel/Telus from making money off of GPS, so they don't provide the software necessary to enable it. They either have to let everyone use it, or nobody use it for navigation. Again, it's an all software limitation."

and from what that's insinuating, that doesn't say to me that Sprint is the bad guy in all of this and asks directly HTC or UTStarcom to "disable" the chip, as I've seen so many rumors floating around. an analogy would be the 6600 evdo debacle. hardware for evdo on sprint 6600 was present, but no way to control everyone to upgrade to power vision (higher $$ fee) because if you let some of them use evdo, all of them would have that option (and wouldn't have to pay).

anyway long story short, it has gpsOne but can't be used in navigational applications.

moving on!
how is voice priority? anyone test this yet? use evdo and start streaming a radio station or tv broadcast and see if it interrupts or goes to voicemail when calling.

then I want to know if while on a call you can browse the web... if one looks at the feature set of the msm 7500 chip it does say simulations cdma 1x and evdo / evdo rev a. and even though some say its a feature set of ev-dv, I've heard and read conflicting reports about if voice and data capabilities simulataneous are possible. nothing to lose by testing!
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Does anyone know about the battery life?
How does it compare?
Is the standard battery adequate, and for how long?
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