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Darkness231 11-10-2007 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenny (Post 119007)
Yeah my BT has turned off 3 times now... so that 'bug' is still there. Have you tried talking to anyone yet?

Nope as soon as this happed, its back to 2.09...BT was the only reason for flashing, as I do not have a memory leak problem

2kmy477 11-10-2007 10:22 PM

I just flashed about 1 1/2 hours ago.The phone froze up twice,bt also disconnected twice.I'm going back to 2.09 w/1.47 radio,this seemed to be the best combination for my Mogul for now.

swanie2000 11-10-2007 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 2kmy477 (Post 119031)
I just flashed about 1 1/2 hours ago.The phone froze up twice,bt also disconnected twice.I'm going back to 2.09 w/1.47 radio,this seemed to be the best combination for my Mogul for now.


Same for me, The lock up happen's every time I go to start, settings. The screen appears, but nothing works past this point. A soft reset brings it back, and then it will lock up again, as soon as you go into settings?

I'm downloading 2.09 right now, to restore my phone, for now. I will keep watch on this thread...

MIchael

tavella 11-10-2007 10:44 PM

The only issue that I have experienced so far is that some of the applications in the program folder flash over and over. Bluetooth stopped working within five minutes.... Thanks for trying.

nosmohtac 11-10-2007 11:17 PM

I've tried the ROM with the BT from Touch by sfaureo3 and this one and although the BT is better, neither will let me use my BT stereo headset for both hands free and wireless stereo.

Anyone have a BT stereo headset that works both ways or any idea how I could get mine working?

nosmohtac 11-10-2007 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by swanie2000 (Post 119040)
Same for me, The lock up happen's every time I go to start, settings. The screen appears, but nothing works past this point. A soft reset brings it back, and then it will lock up again, as soon as you go into settings?

I'm downloading 2.09 right now, to restore my phone, for now. I will keep watch on this thread...

MIchael

I had the same problem, but if you hard reset and then soft reset before the customization starts (don't load the OEM stuff) then it doesn't freeze when you go in to settings.

jtrag 11-10-2007 11:26 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys. This is an issue with this build when you let the auto-customizations run on the first boot. I am looking into it and I will correct this as soon as possible. If you soft reset before the auto-customizations run on the first boot, you shouldn't have this problem.

First post has been updated with a notification of this issue. Check back from time to time. I'll get this sorted out ASAP.

Darkness231 11-10-2007 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jtrag (Post 119078)
Thanks for the feedback guys. This is an issue with this build when you let the auto-customizations run on the first boot.

Which issue are you talking about? I did not let the customization run and I still had the BT issue and the flashing icons. and freezing upon entering Start-->settings

jtrag 11-10-2007 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkness231 (Post 119083)
Which issue are you talking about? I did not let the customization run and I still had the BT issue and the flashing icons. and freezing upon entering Start-->settings

Mainly the flashing icons and the settings menu locking up. The issue with bluetooth disconnecting is one that a lot of us are trying to figure out. I was hoping that porting everything from the Touch would help, but it appears that something else on the Titan is causing this. We will figure this out. It's just a matter of time.

Thanks again for everyone helping to test these ROMs and report back the bugs/issues. It will help us figure this out faster.

krohnjw 11-10-2007 11:36 PM

Flashing now - Will report any issues.

jtrag 11-10-2007 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by krohnjw (Post 119088)
Flashing now - Will report any issues.

Be sure to NOT let the auto-customizations run on the first boot. Also, after you flash, disconnect the USB cable and do a hard reset. I've noticed that sometimes after flashing a ROM, it is better to do a hard reset before you boot it up for the first time.

huynhc 11-10-2007 11:43 PM

jtraq,

although i havent tried your rom yet, just wanted to say thanks for effort you're putting into this!

jtrag 11-10-2007 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by huynhc (Post 119095)
jtraq,

although i havent tried your rom yet, just wanted to say thanks for effort you're putting into this!

Thank you. You're very welcome. There's a lot of us trying to improve this device. We'll get it figured out. Just might take us a lot of trial and error to get there. Hang in there guys, we're working on it.

nosmohtac 11-10-2007 11:49 PM

jtrag,

I tried this ROM and had to go back to sfaure03's ROM. I do appreciate your effort with this though.

I will keep checking back to this thread and try it again as things progress.

I did have the BT shut off on me a couple of times
Certain files would flash like crazy in file explorer
I experienced the lock up when going to start>settings, but I hard reset again and soft reset prior to customization and that fixed that.
I can't get my BT stereo headset to work for both phone and PDA (I can listen to music or a movie, but if a call comes in it doesn't switch to handsfree, or I can have it set as handsfree, but then the sound from movies and music comes through the mogul speaker).

I can't get my headset to work with the sfaure03 ROM either, but I haven't had the BT shut off on me and everything else seems to work OK.

Thanks again for all of your hard work.

2kmy477 11-11-2007 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nosmohtac (Post 119073)
I had the same problem, but if you hard reset and then soft reset before the customization starts (don't load the OEM stuff) then it doesn't freeze when you go in to settings.

I did not let the Sprint stuff run after the hard reset,it froze up almost every time when tried to do some settings.I performed hard reset several times already,same issue,lockups and bt disconnected.

krohnjw 11-11-2007 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jtrag (Post 119089)
Be sure to NOT let the auto-customizations run on the first boot. Also, after you flash, disconnect the USB cable and do a hard reset. I've noticed that sometimes after flashing a ROM, it is better to do a hard reset before you boot it up for the first time.

I did not let the customizations run. After installing all of the icons for the 3rd party apps show up as flashing in the "Programs" folder. I also had the freezing issue when going into the System Settings.

I hard reset after that to see if it was possibly due to not having a hard reset after the flash - same issues again.

Anything else you would like me to try before going back to 2.16 + 1.40?

Edit: Froze when entering the sliding sounds settings as well - seems to be editing settings in general.

dishe 11-11-2007 12:39 AM

Dude, we should be working TOGETHER, not parallel.
See thread about this that's been going on all last week:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=11258

freeza 11-11-2007 05:15 AM

Is there a way to get all of those bluetooth enhancements in a cab to install seperately?

thanks!

nosmohtac 11-11-2007 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by freeza (Post 119225)
Is there a way to get all of those bluetooth enhancements in a cab to install seperately?

thanks!

click on the link to the thread in the post above yours and you'll see that it's not that simple. It has to be built in to the ROM.

zeurx 11-11-2007 09:56 AM

how did you change the pagepool size. i remember reading something on a different device but could not find the hex offsets for the titan

dishe 11-11-2007 10:38 AM

smaller pagepool = BAD!
 
Oh, by the way, for all who are interested-
LOWER PAGEPOOL VALUE CREATES A NOTICEABLY SLOWER DEVICE.

Some ROM builders here have even tried to UP the pagepool to create a snappier ROM. Having a couple of extra MB's free on reset isn't going to save you a great deal (you'll still need to make sure everything you don't need is closed), but it will slow down the OS.

Not worth it in my opinion. There are plenty of us who would have explained this to jtrag had he chosen to work with the group in the thread mentioned above instead of taking his own crack at it.

jtrag 11-11-2007 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dishe (Post 119273)
Oh, by the way, for all who are interested-
LOWER PAGEPOOL VALUE CREATES A NOTICEABLY SLOWER DEVICE.

Some ROM builders here have even tried to UP the pagepool to create a snappier ROM. Having a couple of extra MB's free on reset isn't going to save you a great deal (you'll still need to make sure everything you don't need is closed), but it will slow down the OS.

Not worth it in my opinion. There are plenty of us who would have explained this to jtrag had he chosen to work with the group in the thread mentioned above instead of taking his own crack at it.

First off, I have been working with sfaure, dogguy, etc... in the chat room. This isn't just taking my own crack at it. With this ROM, I've done something different than the others in an attempt to see if it would still have the same issues. Unfortunately it does, and it also seems to cause some other issues. We would not have known this unless I put the ROM out there for others to test and give some feedback on it. Plus, where have you been in chat? If you were in chat with us enough, you would have known that we were all trying many different things to figure this out. dogguy sfaure, and I were all discussing this last night before I released this ROM and so far, nobody had tried the exact combination that I had used to build this ROM. I released this for others to test and give us some feedback. How does that not help the overall development?

Also, I don't need anyone to explain to me how pagepool works. Changing the pagepool from the default 6MB to 4MB does not make much of a performance difference at all. It really just frees up some RAM without impacting performance. The only time you're really going to see any noticable increase in performance is by setting the pagepool to 12MB or higher. But then you're losing a lot of free RAM for your programs. I've researched pagepool for some time now and I've seen stats comparing all of the different pagepool values. Everything got the same performace score until they got up to 20MB pagepool and then the performance jumped up by a couple of points. Going from 6MB to 4MB does NOT cause the performance of your device to be any noticable amount slower and it DOES free up a few MB of memory for programs to run.

Anyway, I've taken the ROM off of the FTP until we get some of these issues worked out. Thanks to everyone who tested the ROM and left feedback. It will be useful for us while we try to figure out what is causing the BT issues on the 6800.

dishe 11-11-2007 12:37 PM

my apologies, I was out for one day because of work deadlines and apparently missed a lot of developments. The others mentioned nothing of this to me.

As far as pagepool... I'm wondering what you're basing this info off of. Are there published test results that I could see?
Because this has been discussed many times, and the general conclusion (as well as my own observation) is that is DOES make a difference, even from 4 to 6 to 8 MB. This is the first time I've seen anyone disagree.

Personally, when I turned it down to 4, my experience was that some windows / programs took longer to draw and populate. I had a mortscript that would wait a certain amount of time for the phone settings window to appear than hit a button- that mortscript failed consistantly after I set the pagepool down because the window hadn't appeared in the proper amount of time yet.

sfaure03 11-11-2007 01:04 PM

we really should take it easy on one another.. ............

scuzzell 11-11-2007 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jtrag (Post 118901)
I have also added a few things for bluetooth functionality such as:

* Bluetooth Printer Profiles - Allows you to print using bluetooth enabled printers.
* BT FTP - Allows you to transfer many types of files via bluetooth.
* BT QuickLink from the Vogue - Today plugin that alerts you to bluetooth enabled devices and allows you to connect to them.
* Cambridge Bluetooth Add-on - Give you various different bluetooth profiles.
If you check in your bluetooth settings menu, and your programs menu, you will see the extra things mentioned above.

Could you possibly provide cabs for this added functionality so we can use them on other roms.

~Scuzzell

Polen 11-11-2007 06:11 PM

I'm not sure if the Mogul can be fixed with the current software/drivers available. When I talked to an HTC tech, he said that the phone was flawed and the 2.16 rom made it worse. He also went on to say that their engineers are working hard to fix the problems and they are having to do a total re-write of the software.

It could be that this phone's limits are pushed so far to the edge that any change in one area has negitive effects in others.

-Polen

dmackdaddy 11-11-2007 06:13 PM

Sounds like its time to start the Unified Titan-Flow Project!

neilson 11-11-2007 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Polen (Post 119506)
I'm not sure if the Mogul can be fixed with the current software/drivers available. When I talked to an HTC tech, he said that the phone was flawed and the 2.16 rom made it worse. He also went on to say that their engineers are working hard to fix the problems and they are having to do a total re-write of the software.

It could be that this phone's limits are pushed so far to the edge that any change in one area has negitive effects in others.

-Polen

If it were up to me, I as Sprint would collaborate with HTC(in addition to Bell, Telus, Qwest, Alltel, and soon Verizon since they'll all be offering the same phone too and I would imagine have varying degrees of problems with their P4000/Titan/XV6800s just like we have with our Moguls.

Have a very liberal buyback program for the Sprint Moguls if the firmware updates so far have been that detrimental to the phone's underlying drivers and software/OS and have something more then the Touch available for us to get in its place. I'm talking about about a CDMA-ized version of the Tilt that's not truly a CDMA clone. Do it in true HTC fashion where what we get will be a half-generation ahead of the Tilt but also DON'T do like HTC/carriers of CDMA where we get the phone by the time the true successor to the Tilt is out on GSM carriers.

My opinion.


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