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Old 07-19-2012, 09:50 PM
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Old 07-20-2012, 01:34 AM
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Re: whos to blame?

Samsung could have just said no we dont lock our product
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:54 AM
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Re: whos to blame?

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Samsung could have just said no we dont lock our product

yeah that makes business sense...


Choice 1


VZW "we won't sell your phone unless you lock the bootloader because we're bitches"

Sammy "fuck you, no SGS3 for you, we don't care if we lose hundreds of millions of dollars"



Choice 2

VZW "we won't sell your phone unless you lock the bootloader because we're bitches"

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"well we can either lose millions of sales on the largest network in America to make a point or just lock the damn bootloader and release an off-contract developer edition to try to make up for it, and in the meantime, we will continue to have unlocked bootloaders on every other network because we're developer friendly and not trying to be Apple like HTC is"


I would have made the same choice if I owned a multi billion dollar conglomerate. Verizon is to blame here, they order the product a certain way or else, Samsung just fulfills orders. HTC actively locks bootloaders on all networks and has their garbage "HTC dev we void your warranty and this only applies to some devices"

I will keep my galaxy nexus over anything HTC has to offer
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:06 PM
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What I meant was when on 6.5 all there phones had graphical issues, many threads about it. Phones with very similar hardware would run the same games at higher frame rates. Just stuff like that. Sorry for the poor explication lol. I just remember that was a big issue with older WM HTC phones.
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Old 07-20-2012, 03:18 PM
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What I meant was when on 6.5 all there phones had graphical issues, many threads about it. Phones with very similar hardware would run the same games at higher frame rates. Just stuff like that. Sorry for the poor explication lol. I just remember that was a big issue with older WM HTC phones.
I see, that was still more of a Microsoft issue than HTC though, WM was not open source like Android, HTC did not write the software for it.
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I see, that was still more of a Microsoft issue than HTC though, WM was not open source like Android, HTC did not write the software for it.
Sense was a resource hog, HTC wrote that....

I still totally wish WinMo just kept going and none of this WP crap.... I miss the old days
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Old 07-20-2012, 04:04 PM
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Sense was a resource hog, HTC wrote that....

I still totally wish WinMo just kept going and none of this WP crap.... I miss the old days
lol true, I used Titanium on every one of my WM6.5 ROMs and didn't even cook in Sense or any of that crap.
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yeah that makes business sense...


Choice 1

VZW "we won't sell your phone unless you lock the bootloader because we're bitches"

Sammy "fuck you, no SGS3 for you, we don't care if we lose hundreds of millions of dollars"

Choice 2

VZW "we won't sell your phone unless you lock the bootloader because we're bitches"

Sammy "well we can either lose millions of sales on the largest network in America to make a point or just lock the damn bootloader and release an off-contract developer edition to try to make up for it, and in the meantime, we will continue to have unlocked bootloaders on every other network because we're developer friendly and not trying to be Apple like HTC is"

I would have made the same choice if I owned a multi billion dollar conglomerate. Verizon is to blame here, they order the product a certain way or else, Samsung just fulfills orders. HTC actively locks bootloaders on all networks and has their garbage "HTC dev we void your warranty and this only applies to some devices"

I will keep my galaxy nexus over anything HTC has to offer
Sam could lose more if they tarnish the Sammy name. And they would have still sold to verzion why becuz they are the number 1 android phone maker Verizon would have been the only ones with out s3

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Old 07-20-2012, 05:07 PM
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Re: whos to blame?

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Sam could lose more if they tarnish the Sammy name. And they would have still sold to verzion why becuz they are the number 1 android phone maker Verizon would have been the only ones with out s3

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except that there's probably less than .1% who care about an unlocked bootloader.

Do you know in real life a single person on verizon who even knows what a bootloader is?

Sammy is developer friendly up to the point where VZW is asking them to lock the BL, then I can see why they'd lock it in a one time only basis than deal with a mexican standoff.


HTC has been doing it for every device on every network.
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Old 07-20-2012, 05:19 PM
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except that there's probably less than .1% who care about an unlocked bootloader.

Do you know in real life a single person on verizon who even knows what a bootloader is?

Sammy is developer friendly up to the point where VZW is asking them to lock the BL, then I can see why they'd lock it in a one time only basis than deal with a mexican standoff.

HTC has been doing it for every device on every network.
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