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Old 05-10-2009, 09:19 PM
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Wifi Drivers

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Just wondering if anyone out there has seen at any point in time airscanner sniffer or any similar packet capping software working on a diamond and if so what rom were you using at the time? Any chef's know of any drivers that work on the diamond and also w/this type software?
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Old 05-10-2009, 11:47 PM
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Re: Wifi Drivers

Not exactly sure what you're asking for...

Do you mean you're looking for software that will scan the WiFi frequencies and log findings? Basically, a wardriving app?
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Old 05-11-2009, 01:44 AM
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Re: Wifi Drivers

No, he wants to hijack someone's wireless network. I don't think we talk about this kind of stuff at PPCGeeks, and it wouldn't be in the Diamond upgrades forum if at all.
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Re: Wifi Drivers

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No, he wants to hijack someone's wireless network. I don't think we talk about this kind of stuff at PPCGeeks, and it wouldn't be in the Diamond upgrades forum if at all.
... You're pretty anal about someone asking for DRIVERS. Anyways, I was asking if anyone knew of some wifi for the touch diamond that would run specific software that would allow me to capture wifi packets. Although this could be part of a wep crack it could also be a few other things. As for this info about which wireless drivers might work with which program on our machines (I think the core issue for me is more what drivers are available and which work best in terms of range and complete software compatability, especially since I remember the stock telus wifi driver was terrible and I didn't even notice until I grabbed up Juicy rom w/an upgraded lan driver, this info might even make people porting android to our phones start looking at an ndiswrapper port) I couldn't think of a better place to post a question asking which versions of drivers for x slot on x device are available than a place where programmers (our cooks) have used them in verious software(roms) that they've been releasing to the community.

Anyways, if anyone has any idea what drivers work best with what software, be it Juicy or Cal or even one of the thousands of rom downloaders and users I would appreciate any info IE what rom or drivers you were using at the time.

No need to jump down my throat for asking a simple question about the best software for my phone... I'm not looking for wardriving software or network scanning software etc, I'm looking for the best (wifi) driver software that the chef's/users have seen
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Old 05-11-2009, 01:00 PM
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Re: Wifi Drivers

from experiance with my laptop. ur gonna have to find an app to do this first. because the app will most likely need a certain driver. most the apps i found for my pc already had the drivers included. second capturing iv's is a long drawn out deal, unless the people are constantly downloading massive files over the roughter. when i say drawn out, i mean months of constant 24/7 scanning wont get u enough iv's. so there isnt much hope of doing this with a device that will die or over heat in 4 hours or less of constant wifi scaning. third u would be better off with a linux based device. the android is a step in that direction. but the versions for the diamond got a long way to go. im not sayin its impossible to do. but im am sayin it would be a challenge to say the least to captured the 250,000+ ivs needed. ur better of using ur desktop or lappy with linux for this kind of thing. trust me.
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Old 05-11-2009, 01:09 PM
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Re: Wifi Drivers

READ MORE THAN THE EDIT. THE EDIT IS RAMBLING, TRYING TO CLUE IN SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T SEEM TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

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from experiance with my laptop. ur gonna have to find an app to do this first. because the app will most likely need a certain driver. most the apps i found for my pc already had the drivers included. second capturing iv's is a long drawn out deal, unless the people are constantly downloading massive files over the roughter. when i say drawn out, i mean months of constant 24/7 scanning wont get u enough iv's. so there isnt much hope of doing this with a device that will die or over heat in 4 hours or less of constant wifi scaning. third u would be better off with a linux based device. the android is a step in that direction. but the versions for the diamond got a long way to go. im not sayin its impossible to do. but im am sayin it would be a challenge to say the least to captured the 250,000+ ivs needed. ur better of using ur desktop or lappy with linux for this kind of thing. trust me.
Actually, depending on what OS you're using on your laptop (linux for example) you may have noticed that if you want to monitor a wep channel you might need to use madwifi-ng drivers and they might need to be patched. Or if you're using airmon-ng to monitor a wireless signal you could also try using the kernel drivers etc... Most of the software I see supports certain drivers but not others, drivers are the key because they interact between the hardware and the software, no app can put your card into promiscuous mode for example if your drivers don't support it. Again, everyone responding to my thread is getting totally off topic .. I'm not looking for cracking/hacking software etc, I'm looking for DRIVERS that will let me use more of my device by supporting more options that the card already has on it but the software can't access because the drivers are terribad from htc.

EDIT: if I wanted to go wardriving I would just use my laptop, it's already got gentoo, aircrack suite and patched driver software on it .... Also to share a little info from a technical standpoint, to crack say wpa2-psk I think all you need to do is cap a full 4-way handshake which would be as easy to do as watching a client connect, grab the packets or disassociate a client from the AP and watch them reconnect and run a brute force/dict attack on the handshake on your home computer... Another side note is that you can actually crack wep in 40-100k IVS, you can cause most access points to send IVS using software mixed with the correct drivers for your card. It took me 10 minutes to show my parents how hard it was to crack their 128 bit wep and what I could do from there with my laptop(it's a ****ty old ibm a22m thinkpad from the 90's too), imagine showing the network admin at work doing it on my cell phone(even capping the packets on a cell phone and running back to your desktop should be enough to make most people nervous), maybe then he'd understand where all our bandwidth is going.

EDIT2: Kind of wondering when "because it can so I want it to" became a bad reason to do things like upgrade drivers on your mobile ppc/phone. I wonder how our framerate would be if everyone thought that was a bad reason... http://www.htcclassaction.org/ or one of the thousands of 3d driver threads on the xda forums anyone?

EDIT 3: I've heard/read a few places that the card in our diamonds runs a chipset that is supported by the acx100 drivers available from sourceforge. The windows 98-vista version of these drivers would be the software available for the dlink dwl-650+ rev a pcmcia/pci cards but not being a winmo developer or anything I have no idea what I can do with this knowledge to try it out, again any well thought out ideas would be welcome (if we could use the windows driver for the tiacx100(texus instrument acx100) then it would seem reasonable to ask one of the devs on the android project to include the acx100 driver in one of their builds ...).

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Re: Wifi Drivers

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... You're pretty anal about someone asking for DRIVERS.
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I'm looking for the best (wifi) driver software that the chef's/users have seen
Alright, I think I'm understanding a bit better.

Reading the last few posts re: cracking WEP with IV's and WPA/WPA2 with bruteforce and dictionaries made me wonder if http://forums.remote-exploit.org had taken over.

Best way to help is to direct you to user wyze. I took a brutal smack-down beating from him recently in this thread by saying porting backtrack to a smartphone was a dead dream. Apparently he has tried and seen some success. Perhaps this individual can answer your questions?
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Re: Wifi Drivers

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... You're pretty anal about someone asking for DRIVERS.
No need to jump down my throat for asking a simple question about the best software for my phone... I'm not looking for wardriving software or network scanning software etc, I'm looking for the best (wifi) driver software that the chef's/users have seen
He said you posted in the wrong forum... which you did.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=65921

You young'erns aren't gonna make any friends around here smack talking to a senior, influential member of the community like Indagroove.
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Re: Wifi Drivers

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He said you posted in the wrong forum... which you did.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=65921

You young'erns aren't gonna make any friends around here smack talking to a senior, influential member of the community like Indagroove.
With that in mind I'm gonna move this to the general Diamond Forum.

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Re: Wifi Drivers

well buddy my intent wasnt to explain to u how to crack someones key. i was just saying the tides are against u. sure there are other reasoms u might want put ur phone in monitor mode. but cracking keys is the most common one. so calm down partener, i just dont think a diamond is the best debice for the strain of capping. u may right and its the best idea ever. i hope ur right. better yet cuz u know so much i hope u write the driver
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