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Old 07-16-2010, 03:08 PM
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Re: 3 million iphone4 sold in 3 weeks, whips EVO

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Once iphone opens up to the other carriers, your going to see a decline in Android sales unless they become less geeky to appeal to the general population. Even at my job, the only reason my co-workers have Droids is because they couldn't get the iphone on Verizon since our company only pays for Verizon service. Seriously, the whole reason Android even got big is because people didn't have a choice and the only smartphone options were either old crappy WinMo or a substitute like Android.

I think Apple now realizes that and why we might see iphones on Verizon. Once that happens, the iphone will kill off Android sales.
ya. dumbphones have always sold 10 to 1 against smartphones!lol!
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Re: 3 million iphone4 sold in 3 weeks, whips EVO

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Once iphone opens up to the other carriers, your going to see a decline in Android sales unless they become less geeky to appeal to the general population. Even at my job, the only reason my co-workers have Droids is because they couldn't get the iphone on Verizon since our company only pays for Verizon service. Seriously, the whole reason Android even got big is because people didn't have a choice and the only smartphone options were either old crappy WinMo or a substitute like Android.

I think Apple now realizes that and why we might see iphones on Verizon. Once that happens, the iphone will kill off Android sales.
I disagree that it would kill Android sales..you have to remember that there is a huge market and it is growing every year...there are other things like RIM and dumbphones and etc...

Also iPhone has only 1 form factor which not everyone may particularly like...in the end of the day there are many factors...will the iphone increase in sales? probably yes..will it kill android? no..will android grow? yes

In reality I see in the future the iphone come closer in openess little by little if it plans to actually survive in the coming years against android..
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Re: 3 million iphone4 sold in 3 weeks, whips EVO

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I disagree that it would kill Android sales..you have to remember that there is a huge market and it is growing every year...there are other things like RIM and dumbphones and etc...

Also iPhone has only 1 form factor which not everyone may particularly like...in the end of the day there are many factors...will the iphone increase in sales? probably yes..will it kill android? no..will android grow? yes

In reality I see in the future the iphone come closer in openess little by little if it plans to actually survive in the coming years against android..
Actually, the form factor is the biggest selling point because you have so many accessories that work on the same ipod doc. You can have stereos, receivers, alarm clocks, car adapters, etc and connect it on the same iphone dock. Thats one of the main reasons I didn't get the EVO and the crappy Sprint service was the other.
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Re: 3 million iphone4 sold in 3 weeks, whips EVO

http://www.apple.com/antenna/

Check this webpage, it talks about the antenna and also the other phones that have the same problem:
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Re: 3 million iphone4 sold in 3 weeks, whips EVO

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Actually, the form factor is the biggest selling point because you have so many accessories that work on the same ipod doc. You can have stereos, receivers, alarm clocks, car adapters, etc and connect it on the same iphone dock. Thats one of the main reasons I didn't get the EVO and the crappy Sprint service was the other.
Not really...it may have been a selling factor before..but you gotta realize 2 things....

1) no matter how many supported items it can connect to, micro usb will always beat the iphone adapter as a standard..more devices support USB then anything...by using USB you can connect to any standard device as long as a driver is programmed in android...

2) We are in 2010...we should expect the use of DLNA and other similar technologies to wirelessly work together..not limited by form factor or etc..and I can see DLNA as the future standard as all the brands are in on it...

You also have to realize form factor is important..for my job I CANT GO WITHOUT A KEYBOARD on my phone...it is 100% essential...do I sue the keyboard much on my TP2? not really..but when it is used it is irreplaceable!

Last thing you gotta consider is android is released by more then 1 company...1 phone cannot beat 100 manufacturers using it for their core...

as for service..don't get me started on AT&T service in NY lol
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Re: 3 million iphone4 sold in 3 weeks, whips EVO

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http://www.apple.com/antenna/

Check this webpage, it talks about the antenna and also the other phones that have the same problem:
typical apple answer that doesnt address the real issue. if all phones everywhere do this, and the problem isnt that the antenna is exposed on the outside of the phone, why does a rubber bumper that covers the exposed antenna fix the problem 99%? do you get all your answers directly from apple?
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Re: 3 million iphone4 sold in 3 weeks, whips EVO

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typical apple answer that doesnt address the real issue. if all phones everywhere do this, and the problem isnt that the antenna is exposed on the outside of the phone, why does a rubber bumper that covers the exposed antenna fix the problem 99%? do you get all your answers directly from apple?
Do you have an iphone4? If not, how do you know it sucks? I don't have a case on mines yet and I'm having better reception ever or else I would've returned it.

Do I go on the TP2 forum to cuss it out? Go look at my old posts on the TP2, I had it for a while and sucked bigtime compared to what I have now. Even Silence quit and switched to iphone because it was so much better.
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Old 07-16-2010, 03:39 PM
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Do you have an iphone4? If not, how do you know it sucks? I don't have a case on mines yet and I'm having better reception ever or else I would've returned it.

Do I go on the TP2 forum to cuss it out? Go look at my old posts on the TP2, I had it for a while and sucked bigtime compared to what I have now. Even Silence quit and switched to iphone because it was so much better.
nobody including me has said the iphone sucks yet in this thread. calm down nikk. you act like im talking about tou personally or something. sheesh.
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Re: 3 million iphone4 sold in 3 weeks, whips EVO

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typical apple answer that doesnt address the real issue. if all phones everywhere do this, and the problem isnt that the antenna is exposed on the outside of the phone, why does a rubber bumper that covers the exposed antenna fix the problem 99%? do you get all your answers directly from apple?
no other devices get as much scrutiny and pub as the iPhone does, and it IS on IMO the worst network, which exacerbates it. You seem to have more of a problem with Apple regarding something we can't fathom than actually taking an objective look at the iPhone 4.

Admittedly this IS an issue. But you have to keep in mind that in these forums especially you don't get typical iFan d-bags, but educated smartphone users who can make their iPhones do damn near anything a WM or Android device can do. You think I'm an Apple lover too? Well I like the iPhone a lot, it's a bad-ass device. Does that make me less intelligent that other people?

What about the fact that I cook and flash WM roms? Or that I know a lot about Android and am starting to build a kitchen to cook for it?

I just don't get all the derisiveness towards people who like iPhones.


edit: this isn't specifically aimed at you Austin or gTen, but the general "iPhone sucks mushahwhahahahahaahahwhahaha" threads and such. You guys at least raise interesting points (although you do seem to have a disgruntlement with Apple)
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Old 07-16-2010, 03:53 PM
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Re: 3 million iphone4 sold in 3 weeks, whips EVO

nikkg, you shouldnt feel the need to whip out your resume every time your feelings are hurt.
orangekid, you should act more like a mod by not calling out people in public threads. by saying this is not directed at austin or gten, thats even more like directing it at me, imo.
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