Originally Posted by eric12341
H is 3G, H+ is 4G, AT&T is doing this too and they are using a slower version of H+. Want to go that route then not even wi-max or LTE can be considered 4G, really?
Originally Posted by pcmag
T-Mobile's HSPA+ 21 service won in the 3G bracket of our study, and the company's high-end HSPA+ 42 service competed reasonably well with other providers' 4G service.
whatever eric. according to your own source, your wrong. your tmobile fanboyism is blinding you to facts. the fact of the matter is that the ieee said that wimax and lte were on track to the 4g pathway as they were upgradeable to lte plus and wimax v2. h+ had always been advanced 3g and tmobile just started calling it 4g with out permission from the group that sets the standard who decided to stiffle confusion let it slide.
Originally Posted by wikipedia
Two 4G candidate systems are commercially deployed: The Mobile WiMAX
standard (at first in South Korea in 2006), and the first-release Long term evolution
(LTE) standard (in Scandinavia since 2009). It has however been debated if these first-release versions should be considered as 4G or not. Since the above mentioned first-release versions of Mobile WiMAX
support much less than 1 Gbit/s peak bit rate, they are not fully IMT-Advanced compliant, but are often branded 4G by service providers. On December 6, 2010, ITU-R recognized that these two technologies that do not fulfill the IMT-Advanced requirements, could nevertheless be considered "4G", provided they represent forerunners to IMT-Advanced compliant versions. Mobile WiMAX Release 2
(also known as WirelessMAN-Advanced
or IEEE 802.16m'
) and LTE Advanced
(LTE-A) are IMT-Advanced compliant backwards compatible versions of the above two systems, standardized during the spring 2011, and promising peak bit rates in the order of 1 Gbit/s. Services are expected in 2013
i know thats a lot to read since its not about tmobile, but do you see how they dont even mention hsd/upa+?
Originally Posted by also from wikipedia
The fastest 3G-based standard in the UMTS
family is the HSPA+
standard, which was commercially available in 2009 and offers 28 Mbit/s downstreams (22 Mbit/s upstreams) without MIMO
, i.e. only with one antenna, and in 2011 accelerated up to 42 Mbit/s peak bit rate downstreams using either DC-HSPA+
(simultaneous use of two 5 MHz UMTS carrier)
or 2x2 MIMO. In theory 672 Mbit/s is possible, but still not deployed. The fastest 3G-based standard in the CDMA2000
family is the EV-DO Rev. B
, which was available in 2010 and offers 15.67 Mbit/s downstreams
wiki even calls h+ 3g multiple times...
so whats up eric? feeling froggy?